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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 12, 2019 7:47:39 GMT -5
I can handle Steve living in this timeline or an alternate one, whichever it ends up being; I think he could pull off going into something of a seclusion for decades knowing how things turn out. My real question is, how was he so sure he'd make it to the age he did to be able to pull off what he did? He had no way of knowing that some random crosswalk accident in 1982 wouldn't take him out. I guess he figures, he's still got super strength and endurance, as well as crazy fast reaction times. The guy can dive from planes without a parachute, so he's able to handle a lot of stuff that would probably kill regular people. He's taking a gamble, but I guess it's one he feels comfortable with. It's probably a safe bet that even Old Steve, at 100+ years old, is still as healthy and fit as an athlete in their mid-to-late 30s. Weaker than he would've been in his prime, but still more than capable of living a regular life without worry. Sure, happenstance can't be predicted, but like you say, it's a gamble he's comfortable with.
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Post by Prince Petty on May 12, 2019 7:52:25 GMT -5
I finally saw it today. It was good, very good. Anyway what was up with Natasha's hair early on? Like is it cannon that she isn't a natural red head? And then amidst every thing else why did she decide it was important to dye it again? Secondly was Hulk with the bag of tacos a subtle reference to The State or was that just a coincidence? No, that's her natural red hair growing back in. Since she didn't cut it, the hair she had bleached blonde in Infinity War was all grown out and at the ends. It was the Avengers equivalent of Britta Perry's blue-dyed streak. "Things got dark!" Regarding the inconsistency in the time travel theory for old Steve, I would have written the entire final differently: He goes back, they wait five seconds and then... he doesn't reappear. People start to worry and then someone asks, "where is he?". Bucky smiles and says "he's not coming back". Then cut to Steve in 1944, arriving for that date he promised Peggy he'd be there for. Yes, you lose the final scene with Falcon and Cap, and you lose him handing over the shield, but that's not a particularly big deal. Falcon is cool as Falcon without taking on Cap's mantle. Or have him leave a letter (which would be a nice tie in to the comics, where he did just that before he died) and the movie ends with Steve's voice over telling Sam to take up the mantle.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on May 12, 2019 8:38:46 GMT -5
No, that's her natural red hair growing back in. Since she didn't cut it, the hair she had bleached blonde in Infinity War was all grown out and at the ends. It was the Avengers equivalent of Britta Perry's blue-dyed streak. "Things got dark!" Regarding the inconsistency in the time travel theory for old Steve, I would have written the entire final differently: He goes back, they wait five seconds and then... he doesn't reappear. People start to worry and then someone asks, "where is he?". Bucky smiles and says "he's not coming back". Then cut to Steve in 1944, arriving for that date he promised Peggy he'd be there for. Yes, you lose the final scene with Falcon and Cap, and you lose him handing over the shield, but that's not a particularly big deal. Falcon is cool as Falcon without taking on Cap's mantle. Or have him leave a letter (which would be a nice tie in to the comics, where he did just that before he died) and the movie ends with Steve's voice over telling Sam to take up the mantle. It’s actually not that hard. He finished his mission, then jumped back into 1944 to live in that alternate timeline. He took off the suit so Bruce couldn’t yank him back, lived a full life with Peggy, then donned the suit to jump back on his own. Hell, he probably then jumps back to the alternate timeline to live with his family once again.
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Post by Milkman Norm on May 12, 2019 9:25:34 GMT -5
No, that's her natural red hair was growing back in. Since she didn't cut it, the hair she had bleached blonde in Infinity War was all grown out and at the ends. Yeah it was also a visual cue that she stopped fully taking care of her appearance. Not to Thor's level but similar idea Ah. I had forgotten about her hair in Infinity War.
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Post by chrom on May 12, 2019 10:45:16 GMT -5
250 away
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 12, 2019 11:43:55 GMT -5
No, that's her natural red hair growing back in. Since she didn't cut it, the hair she had bleached blonde in Infinity War was all grown out and at the ends. It was the Avengers equivalent of Britta Perry's blue-dyed streak. "Things got dark!" Regarding the inconsistency in the time travel theory for old Steve, I would have written the entire final differently: He goes back, they wait five seconds and then... he doesn't reappear. People start to worry and then someone asks, "where is he?". Bucky smiles and says "he's not coming back". Then cut to Steve in 1944, arriving for that date he promised Peggy he'd be there for. Yes, you lose the final scene with Falcon and Cap, and you lose him handing over the shield, but that's not a particularly big deal. Falcon is cool as Falcon without taking on Cap's mantle. Or have him leave a letter (which would be a nice tie in to the comics, where he did just that before he died) and the movie ends with Steve's voice over telling Sam to take up the mantle. Takes away a lot of the feeling and overall impact if he doesn't directly give Falcon the Shield. It is the literal passing of the shield to the next generation
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on May 12, 2019 11:45:44 GMT -5
250? you mean after only three weeks it still isn't the highest grossing movie of all time? boy, talk about a complete and total FAILURE! why does Disney even bother keeping it theaters. all they're doing is embarrassing themselves. i guess i shouldn't be surprised at its pathetic box office performance. when i went to the theater the other day, i saw person after person after person walk out of a showing midway through. hey Disney and all other movie studios, here's a free tip: when people would rather look at urinals than watch your movie, that's a sign that you shouldn't have cast Brie Larson. #RIPAvengersEndgame!
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on May 12, 2019 11:52:01 GMT -5
No, that's her natural red hair growing back in. Since she didn't cut it, the hair she had bleached blonde in Infinity War was all grown out and at the ends. It was the Avengers equivalent of Britta Perry's blue-dyed streak. "Things got dark!" Regarding the inconsistency in the time travel theory for old Steve, I would have written the entire final differently: He goes back, they wait five seconds and then... he doesn't reappear. People start to worry and then someone asks, "where is he?". Bucky smiles and says "he's not coming back". Then cut to Steve in 1944, arriving for that date he promised Peggy he'd be there for. Yes, you lose the final scene with Falcon and Cap, and you lose him handing over the shield, but that's not a particularly big deal. Falcon is cool as Falcon without taking on Cap's mantle. Or have him leave a letter (which would be a nice tie in to the comics, where he did just that before he died) and the movie ends with Steve's voice over telling Sam to take up the mantle. Also, it'd be a great reference to Back To The Future, since they mention that's not how it works a few times, having the ending basically be the end of Part 2.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on May 12, 2019 13:58:36 GMT -5
Yeah, it's beating the record for sure. I thought it would more or less crawl towards the record. Safe to say it's going to beat it for sure by next week at least.
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 12, 2019 14:24:08 GMT -5
Yeah, it's beating the record for sure. I thought it would more or less crawl towards the record. Safe to say it's going to beat it for sure by next week at least. I tend to agree. People are underestimating how many people were willing to wait 3-4 weeks to miss the crowds.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on May 12, 2019 14:26:26 GMT -5
Thoughts about Steve Rogers going back and getting old: - Apparently the 21st century is not all that great to live in - He actually gets to spend more time with Tony (pretty much his birthday whole life) - On a serious note, he reminds us that doing life and growing old with the ones we love is more beautiful than anything.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on May 12, 2019 14:31:11 GMT -5
Yeah, it's beating the record for sure. I thought it would more or less crawl towards the record. Safe to say it's going to beat it for sure by next week at least. I tend to agree. People are underestimating how many people were willing to wait 3-4 weeks to miss the crowds. I work at a movie theatre and it's still bringing in massive crowds. This is definitely having some strong legs.
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 12, 2019 14:35:01 GMT -5
The story in my head for Steve. After returning the stones and hammer he goes back to 1945 and marries Peggy. They help form SHIELD together, she runs it with him as her chief agent. His knowledge of the future lets some events be avoided, like HYDRA reforming, Janet Pym being lost (Steve may not have known about it to avoid it, but he could have been on that mission with them changing the outcome), the Starks being assassinated. So pretty much by the time Steve is too old to carry on the Cap of that timeline is found and ready to carry on for him. When Peggy dies Steve comes back to his original timeline to retire and pass on his shield to Sam.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on May 12, 2019 14:48:06 GMT -5
So question. Let's say Endgame is re-released in a couple of months as some kind of special edition with new scenes added and the like. Would any money this special edition makes at the box office be added to Endgames original gross (and its push towards the record)? Or would this special edition be considered a completely different movie?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 12, 2019 14:52:04 GMT -5
Yeah, it's beating the record for sure. I thought it would more or less crawl towards the record. Safe to say it's going to beat it for sure by next week at least. I tend to agree. People are underestimating how many people were willing to wait 3-4 weeks to miss the crowds. Yea, basically what I did
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 12, 2019 14:54:19 GMT -5
Also I really did like how they handled Iron Mans death
He didn't say anything else after "I am Iron Man" he was basically gone and had just enough of himself left to see the people in front of him and his spirit finally got put to rest when Pepper told him everything is okay and they will be fine.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on May 12, 2019 14:55:29 GMT -5
The story in my head for Steve. After returning the stones and hammer he goes back to 1945 and marries Peggy. They help form SHIELD together, she runs it with him as her chief agent. His knowledge of the future lets some events be avoided, like HYDRA reforming, Janet Pym being lost (Steve may not have known about it to avoid it, but he could have been on that mission with them changing the outcome), the Starks being assassinated. So pretty much by the time Steve is too old to carry on the Cap of that timeline is found and ready to carry on for him. When Peggy dies Steve comes back to his original timeline to retire and pass on his shield to Sam. This is what I'm going with, too. This alternate timeline could present alternate changes: - Hydra's infiltration rooted out early means no Winter Soldier and no SHIELD collapse in 2014. That would likely have changes on the events of Agents of SHIELD Season 1 & 2, since there would be no Hydra for Coulson's team to fight. - Howard & Maria Stark not getting killed by Bucky means Civil War's climax does not happen at all.
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Post by eJm on May 12, 2019 15:11:41 GMT -5
Also I really did like how they handled Iron Mans death He didn't say anything else after "I am Iron Man" he was basically gone and had just enough of himself left to see the people in front of him and his spirit finally got put to rest when Pepper told him everything is okay and they will be fine. Especially when Peter was with him, I expected some monologue or last words but the fact he didn’t say anything and left it to Pepper was genuinely touching and meant more to the sacrifice he made.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 12, 2019 15:19:54 GMT -5
So question. Let's say Endgame is re-released in a couple of months as some kind of special edition with new scenes added and the like. Would any money this special edition makes at the box office be added to Endgames original gross (and its push towards the record)? Or would this special edition be considered a completely different movie? Added. The 1997 Star Wars special editions added to the theatrical grosses of the original movies, as did the limited release of Avatar's extended edition.
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Post by Feyrhausen on May 12, 2019 15:25:39 GMT -5
The story in my head for Steve. After returning the stones and hammer he goes back to 1945 and marries Peggy. They help form SHIELD together, she runs it with him as her chief agent. His knowledge of the future lets some events be avoided, like HYDRA reforming, Janet Pym being lost (Steve may not have known about it to avoid it, but he could have been on that mission with them changing the outcome), the Starks being assassinated. So pretty much by the time Steve is too old to carry on the Cap of that timeline is found and ready to carry on for him. When Peggy dies Steve comes back to his original timeline to retire and pass on his shield to Sam. This is what I'm going with, too. This alternate timeline could present alternate changes: - Hydra's infiltration rooted out early means no Winter Soldier and no SHIELD collapse in 2014. That would likely have changes on the events of Agents of SHIELD Season 1 & 2, since there would be no Hydra for Coulson's team to fight. - Howard & Maria Stark not getting killed by Bucky means Civil War's climax does not happen at all. Lots of fun stuff like that. Steve knows Zola had Bucky so once he came into the timeline he could have put a stop to the brainwashing early. After a few years recovery Steve could have had Bucky fighting beside him all those years. Steve knows the truth about Wakanda so he could have gotten relations started earlier, making sure Killmonger is avoided. Also T'Chaka would have lived a long life and died of old age. Really Steve could have turned that timeline into a paradise.
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