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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:19:48 GMT -5
Christ, look who her dad is, he's one of the best political SOBs ever. "Yay I'm 8 time champion" - yeah you lost it 7 times. Charlotte is no politician, period. We have to stop thinking or claiming this as a fact, because there have been zero reports of this being true.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 23, 2019 21:19:54 GMT -5
As a Bayley stan, this really bugs me. There's a whole roster of women. You just stated that she's starting back at the bottom. So have her beat someone else! Hate to be all "wait and see", but WWE sees these things as "the climb means more if you start at the bottom" so I think that's where this Bayley thing is going. Or she's just got a fresh start as a JTTS. We'll see.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 23, 2019 21:20:40 GMT -5
She really is big part of the reason that I consider watching a PPV..but there is always charlotte in the title match.Not sole reason of course,but big part
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Post by Starshine on Apr 23, 2019 21:23:18 GMT -5
Actually I'm starting to recall a few people arguing the triple threat had to happen at Mania so the Becky/Charlotte feud could end properly...
Man, that must feel embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:25:01 GMT -5
There is no reason Charlotte needs to be CONSTANTLY at the top of the womens division...all the nepotisim views towards her only gain more traction with this. Whats wrong with having Charlotte come out only to have Bayley interrupt her And then have idk EMBER challenge Becky at MITB...ya know a woman who could actually use such a match and more so such a win instead a week in and she is back there is catering somewhere. Because it really wouldn’t make sense. Why would Ember just randomly come out and confront Becky? There’s no motives involved. At least the stuff with Charlotte actually has some merit as she didn’t get beat. And nepotism views? The crowd couldn’t stop wooing her last week and even this week at times. It isn’t just Vince’s stroke or backstage help. She’s just good. Why doesn't it make sense? it does not have to be a complex story Ember just got to SD...hell she came out first last week and confronted Becky so just continue it from there.....she is a competitor and she wants her shot at the SD live womens title. What does not make sense is to stack the womens division like they have....but yet again here is Charlotte.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:25:57 GMT -5
Because it really wouldn’t make sense. Why would Ember just randomly come out and confront Becky? There’s no motives involved. At least the stuff with Charlotte actually has some merit as she didn’t get beat. And nepotism views? The crowd couldn’t stop wooing her last week and even this week at times. It isn’t just Vince’s stroke or backstage help. She’s just good. Why doesn't it make sense? it does not have to be a complex story Ember just got to SD...hell she came out first last week and confronted Becky so just continue it from there.....she is a competitor and she wants her shot at the SD live womens title. What does not make sense is to stack the womens division like they have....but yet again here is Charlotte. If they'd actually acknowledge the social media stuff, there'd be a reason for Ember coming out and confronting Becky. She thinks Becky's a bully and wants to put her in her place.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 23, 2019 21:26:17 GMT -5
Actually I'm starting to recall a few people arguing the triple threat had to happen at Mania so the Becky/Charlotte feud could end properly... Man, that must feel embarrassing. I argued that it should have been just Charlotte vs. Becky because Ronda had gone off her rocker.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:26:28 GMT -5
Because it really wouldn’t make sense. Why would Ember just randomly come out and confront Becky? There’s no motives involved. At least the stuff with Charlotte actually has some merit as she didn’t get beat. And nepotism views? The crowd couldn’t stop wooing her last week and even this week at times. It isn’t just Vince’s stroke or backstage help. She’s just good. Why doesn't it make sense? it does not have to be a complex story Ember just got to SD...hell she came out first last week and confronted Becky so just continue it from there.....she is a competitor and she wants her shot at the SD live womens title. What does not make sense is to stack the womens division like they have....but yet again here is Charlotte. Charlotte is likely winning this match and will take the SD title. From there, you’ve got more challengers and women’s superstars to pick and choose from. It really isn’t as doom and gloom as it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:26:55 GMT -5
Really I don't even know who besides Charlotte could viably be the one to take the belt off Becky at the moment.
The only heel women on the roster are Charlotte, the IIconics, Sonya, Mandy, Liv, Lana, and I guess Mickie but who the hell knows there. The IIconics are busy (and nowhere near good enough for the belt anyway), Sonya and Mandy are both decent filler challengers but they're still growing and aren't quite ready to head the division yet, Liv basically needs to be reinvented right now, Mickie barely exists and any time they've tried pushing her solo since she came back it's been met with dead silence, and let's not even joke in regards to Lana. There just isn't enough to the heel side to have a face champion right now.
Your best bet right now is having Charlotte win the belt and go through a rotation of Carmella, Asuka, Kairi, Bayley and Ember until eventually losing it to one of them.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 23, 2019 21:27:06 GMT -5
Because it really wouldn’t make sense. Why would Ember just randomly come out and confront Becky? There’s no motives involved. At least the stuff with Charlotte actually has some merit as she didn’t get beat. And nepotism views? The crowd couldn’t stop wooing her last week and even this week at times. It isn’t just Vince’s stroke or backstage help. She’s just good. Why doesn't it make sense? it does not have to be a complex story Ember just got to SD...hell she came out first last week and confronted Becky so just continue it from there.....she is a competitor and she wants her shot at the SD live womens title. What does not make sense is to stack the womens division like they have....but yet again here is Charlotte. Charlotte is the biggest female heel, SDL's female roster is face heavy, she's going to be involved no matter unless we get a turn from someone.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 23, 2019 21:27:27 GMT -5
Actually I'm starting to recall a few people arguing the triple threat had to happen at Mania so the Becky/Charlotte feud could end properly... Man, that must feel embarrassing. Honestly i felt like all the reasons were flawed or just hopeful. The idea never was to give the feud 'closure` just more Charlotte rub.And she is gonna get more when she becomes a 9 times champion and doesnt have Becky around to put her down
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Apr 23, 2019 21:28:48 GMT -5
As a Bayley stan, this really bugs me. There's a whole roster of women. You just stated that she's starting back at the bottom. So have her beat someone else! Hate to be all "wait and see", but WWE sees these things as "the climb means more if you start at the bottom" so I think that's where this Bayley thing is going. Or she's just got a fresh start as a JTTS. We'll see. I'm hoping you're right on the first point.
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Post by DSR on Apr 23, 2019 21:30:37 GMT -5
Why doesn't it make sense? it does not have to be a complex story Ember just got to SD...hell she came out first last week and confronted Becky so just continue it from there.....she is a competitor and she wants her shot at the SD live womens title. What does not make sense is to stack the womens division like they have....but yet again here is Charlotte. Charlotte is likely winning this match and will take the SD title. From there, you’ve got more challengers and women’s superstars to pick and choose from. It really isn’t as doom and gloom as it seems. Remember when the joke was that Cena would fight a dude a bunch of different times and the one he won was the one that counted? That's what this feels like. Charlotte being the heel that faces chase might "make sense" but it totally f***ing sucks. Charlotte doesn't get "good heel heat" with me. I'm just sick of her.
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Apr 23, 2019 21:31:30 GMT -5
Charlotte has more title matches than Johnny Gargano has redemption arcs
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:32:00 GMT -5
I hear what you're all saying, and yes, it makes sense BUT THE THOUGHT OF CHARLOTTE HAVING ANOTHER TITLE REIGN MAKES ME WANT TO SCREAM. At that point it's more about your feelings towards someone rather than the story they're telling which most wrestling fans have issues with regardless of the character. Happens all the time with wrestlers people don't wanna see and it actually happens more times than congratulating wrestlers people like. As Diddy said "the saga continues" lol.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 23, 2019 21:33:27 GMT -5
Because it really wouldn’t make sense. Why would Ember just randomly come out and confront Becky? There’s no motives involved. At least the stuff with Charlotte actually has some merit as she didn’t get beat. And nepotism views? The crowd couldn’t stop wooing her last week and even this week at times. It isn’t just Vince’s stroke or backstage help. She’s just good. Why doesn't it make sense? it does not have to be a complex story Ember just got to SD...hell she came out first last week and confronted Becky so just continue it from there.....she is a competitor and she wants her shot at the SD live womens title. What does not make sense is to stack the womens division like they have....but yet again here is Charlotte. Yeah, I mean, it would make as much sense as Rey Mysterio getting a title opportunity earlier this week after he got completely obliterated in his last match. Or Drew McIntyre losing his last 5 or 6 matches, and getting the same deal. I just kind of find it funny now when some people insist on possible WWE booking options having to 'make sense.' Most of it doesn't make sense already.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:34:31 GMT -5
Christ, look who her dad is, he's one of the best political SOBs ever. "Yay I'm 8 time champion" - yeah you lost it 7 times. Charlotte is no politician, period. We have to stop thinking or claiming this as a fact, because there have been zero reports of this being true. It's not fair to Flair, dammit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2019 21:34:38 GMT -5
Charlotte has more title matches than Johnny Gargano has redemption arcs I'll have you know right now Johnny's going through a very serious time trying to make up for bumping into a guy at Wendy's and causing him to drop his fries.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 23, 2019 21:35:48 GMT -5
If the plan was to put the title back on Charlotte and not have Becky on both shows long term they also could have...ya know...not had the SmackDown title on the line at all at Mania and jobbed out Asuka Well they wanted Becky to get a stronger star moment and be crowned as the top women on the roster. It's much easier to sell that when she has both titles than saying that when Flair/Asuka has the other belt.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 23, 2019 21:36:24 GMT -5
Charlotte has more title matches than Johnny Gargano has redemption arcs I'll have you know right now Johnny's going through a very serious time trying to make up for bumping into a guy at Wendy's and causing him to drop his fries. *Intense staring at hands commences* *Meanwhile everyone else is annoyed cause he's holding up the line*
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