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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 30, 2019 23:34:22 GMT -5
The only objectionable member of the Grumps was JonTron and he left a long-time ago. I mean... Ninja Brian kills people... but oddly no one seems to mind
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 30, 2019 23:43:02 GMT -5
I sometimes think, especially thinking of JewWario and some others, how I can still end up letting myself get attached to some of these guys. There's a lot of potential for hurt. But, I consider that the alternative is not letting myself enjoy things, and that sucks, too.
So for now, I'm going to just try and not go to bat for people if it doesn't feel right. Intuition can lead us astray, sure, but I don't want to risk talking over victims or defending scumbags. Endorsement should only go so far, and it's dangerous to just assume someone's a good guy because they seem like one at first.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Jul 1, 2019 1:49:11 GMT -5
The only objectionable member of the Grumps was JonTron and he left a long-time ago. I mean... Ninja Brian kills people... but oddly no one seems to mind Probably because he also kills the people who DO mind.
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Post by Glitch on Jul 1, 2019 1:50:21 GMT -5
While I doubt Film Brain did anything Brad is trying to rope him into, I have heard from a friend in the England that Film Brain is a huge mark for himself in the UK convention. Any UK board members able to back up this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 8:02:10 GMT -5
Well, this is clearly getting worse before it gets better.
Interesting how Brad supposedly has this damning info on why Alison was really fired... yet continued to associate with her well after the fact.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jul 1, 2019 8:30:33 GMT -5
Well, this is clearly getting worse before it gets better. Interesting how Brad supposedly has this damning info on why Alison was really fired... yet continued to associate with her well after the fact. Following this along has been fascinating. Crazy how friendly people can be until they're not. Always thought Allison and Brad were really tight but this just highlights the importance of trust that friends have to have and the consequences of. Honestly, at this point I feel more sorry towards those who've been affected by these awful ass people on social media. The harassment and the stalking that have resulted from the fallout from Channel Awesome's downfall have been disgusting.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 1, 2019 9:08:55 GMT -5
Why do I get the feeling that revealing this info will only serve to make Brad look bad? I mean if he could honestly refute all the Change the Channel issues, why only wait until now?
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Post by Spider2024 on Jul 1, 2019 9:18:24 GMT -5
I sometimes think, especially thinking of JewWario and some others, how I can still end up letting myself get attached to some of these guys. There's a lot of potential for hurt. But, I consider that the alternative is not letting myself enjoy things, and that sucks, too. So for now, I'm going to just try and not go to bat for people if it doesn't feel right. Intuition can lead us astray, sure, but I don't want to risk talking over victims or defending scumbags. Endorsement should only go so far, and it's dangerous to just assume someone's a good guy because they seem like one at first. I still think it's very possible to enjoy entertainers, as long as you keep a person's talent mutually exclusive from that person's personal makeup. Because when you think about it, maybe we shouldn't just automatically defend an entertainer's personal qualities just based on whether we think their talented/funny/good at singing/whatever. I'm not saying that all, or the vast majority, of entertainers have some sort of hidden skeletons in their closets, I'm just saying it's impossible to judge that based solely on an entertainer's value of entertainment. We shouldn't rush to judgement either way, bad or good, I guess that's what I'm saying.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 9:22:37 GMT -5
Bringing things back around to Cinematic Venom where this thread started, apparently has been receiving threats -
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 1, 2019 9:28:47 GMT -5
Why do I get the feeling that revealing this info will only serve to make Brad look bad? I mean if he could honestly refute all the Change the Channel issues, why only wait until now? At the very least Brad is gonna look bad. I'm guessing that Brad is in need of money and is trying to drum up interest. Now I also think that Brad may have info on some people that may make them look bad too (while I know people were treated poorly at Channel Awesome I've heard that Allison and a few others werent exactly pleasant people) but I cannot see this having any good. It's somewhat interesting to see how Brad has had a slow decline in sanity and has had low key drama since the Jake fiasco. I legit think he started to run into issues where he wanted his friends to commit to his projects and he wasnt compensating them.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 1, 2019 10:02:24 GMT -5
Why do I get the feeling that revealing this info will only serve to make Brad look bad? I mean if he could honestly refute all the Change the Channel issues, why only wait until now? That text was from last year. The fact he would only reveal it in a call so the guy can't screen cap makes me think Brad was full of shit.
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Post by eJm on Jul 1, 2019 11:52:29 GMT -5
Why do I get the feeling that revealing this info will only serve to make Brad look bad? I mean if he could honestly refute all the Change the Channel issues, why only wait until now? That text was from last year. The fact he would only reveal it in a call so the guy can't screen cap makes me think Brad was full of shit. Also, the reason Allison and others got fired is out there. The Skype chat logs are public in that dossier and the reason was basically “They thought she was whining too much about genuine problems they weren’t going to deal with”.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jul 1, 2019 11:56:29 GMT -5
All the talk about how there aren’t any unproblematic Youtubers, and nobody mentions Rhett and Link?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 1, 2019 12:45:20 GMT -5
Well, this is clearly getting worse before it gets better. Interesting how Brad supposedly has this damning info on why Alison was really fired... yet continued to associate with her well after the fact. Following this along has been fascinating. Crazy how friendly people can be until they're not. Always thought Allison and Brad were really tight but this just highlights the importance of trust that friends have to have and the consequences of. Honestly, at this point I feel more sorry towards those who've been affected by these awful ass people on social media. The harassment and the stalking that have resulted from the fallout from Channel Awesome's downfall have been disgusting. Allison and Film Brain had been pretty close with Brad, or thought they were, so yeah, I can definitely see why they feel so betrayed.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jul 1, 2019 12:49:09 GMT -5
Following this along has been fascinating. Crazy how friendly people can be until they're not. Always thought Allison and Brad were really tight but this just highlights the importance of trust that friends have to have and the consequences of. Honestly, at this point I feel more sorry towards those who've been affected by these awful ass people on social media. The harassment and the stalking that have resulted from the fallout from Channel Awesome's downfall have been disgusting. Allison and Film Brain had been pretty close with Brad, or thought they were, so yeah, I can definitely see why they feel so betrayed. Exactly. It's a shame too because Brad always came off fairly liberal in his views but still stuck by CA after an overwhelming amount of stories.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 1, 2019 12:52:06 GMT -5
Allison and Film Brain had been pretty close with Brad, or thought they were, so yeah, I can definitely see why they feel so betrayed. Exactly. It's a shame too because Brad always came off fairly liberal in his views but still stuck by CA after an overwhelming amount of stories. Brad is kinda weird that way. He kinda laid his views on really thick in those pureflix reviews. It makes him look monstrously hypocritical to side with Mike and the Walker brothers.
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Post by nickcave on Jul 1, 2019 12:55:50 GMT -5
He seems very motivated by financial interests and two faced in that way. He probably thought it was a better investment to stick with CA. From some of the other things Allison tweeted about, it sounded like he had similar issues with To Boldly Flee as everyone else initially and it was only after the document came out that he started defending it.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jul 1, 2019 13:11:51 GMT -5
He seems very motivated by financial interests and two faced in that way. He probably thought it was a better investment to stick with CA. From some of the other things Allison tweeted about, it sounded like he had similar issues with To Boldly Flee as everyone else initially and it was only after the document came out that he started defending it. If it were money, there are bigger sites that would happily partner with him. I may be talking out of my ass on this, especially based on what little I'm seeing in all this, but this feels all too familiar to me. I think we're seeing some symbiotic mental health issues starting to show display.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jul 1, 2019 13:27:11 GMT -5
He seems very motivated by financial interests and two faced in that way. He probably thought it was a better investment to stick with CA. From some of the other things Allison tweeted about, it sounded like he had similar issues with To Boldly Flee as everyone else initially and it was only after the document came out that he started defending it. If it were money, there are bigger sites that would happily partner with him. I may be talking out of my ass on this, especially based on what little I'm seeing in all this, but this feels all too familiar to me. I think we're seeing some symbiotic mental health issues starting to show display. I think it may be a Chicago brotherhood since Brad lives close to there and Channel Awesome is in Chicago
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jul 1, 2019 14:18:33 GMT -5
He seems very motivated by financial interests and two faced in that way. He probably thought it was a better investment to stick with CA. From some of the other things Allison tweeted about, it sounded like he had similar issues with To Boldly Flee as everyone else initially and it was only after the document came out that he started defending it. If it were money, there are bigger sites that would happily partner with him. I may be talking out of my ass on this, especially based on what little I'm seeing in all this, but this feels all too familiar to me. I think we're seeing some symbiotic mental health issues starting to show display. I am absolutely not diagnosing from afar, but I worry about this, too. There are details that fit.
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