Worst Produced Segments/Matches/Etc.

[Mozenrath]

While you can list Triplemania-style technical difficulties, and I absolutely understand that, I am a bit more curious to hear about just outright bad decisions. Times where a company said, "This is what we want", and they shot a segment so bafflingly wrong-headed, you are simply stunned. Times where you can't fathom what the hell reaction the company was hoping for, versus what they got.

For me, I have two right off the bat, both from TNA.
- West and Tenay read off of scripts in full view of the camera. They're front and center, even. They do this while calling a Sting and Abyss brawl backstage that they cannot even see because they are looking down at their papers, and not at a monitor, if they even have one. This was NOT a live show, and someone at some stage viewed this and thought, "This is fit to air on television, and we couldn't possibly use a different camera shot, or even a crowd shot or blacked out, simulated technical difficult, both of which would look better and more plausible."

- Jeff Hardy's thoughts backstage can be heard by the audience, which I say is tied with a backstage brawl that stops when someone yells "and cut", with the wrestlers just standing around, no longer fighting, while we at home hear this audio cue. I cannot stress enough that this was NOT live.

Please, regale us with more tales of "what the hell was that?!"

[cassonova]

Piggy backing off of another thread, but a recent example for me is the brawl after tag team title match at the G1 Supercard. ROH books two individuals with some name value in Nzo and CazXL, have them jump the guardrail, initiating the brawl, and proceed to not show any of said brawl onscreen, choosing to cut to the announce desk. If you weren't going to show the brawl, why bother and why not use a cheaper alternative, like ROH students under masks?

[James Fabiano]

Again, the GWF bungee cord match, where you could just see the cage and a leg or arm dangling out once in awhile.

[Spider2024]

So this thread is more about 'design choices' than unintentional technical difficulties, right?

I attended the TNA Slammiversary 2013 PPV. They put up that giant screen at the entrance way, they used it to show entrance videos for the wrestlers, and only showed the match action when it spilled out to the outside of the ring. The screen was totally blank when the wrestlers were in the ring. Why exactly? The venue wasn't large, maybe medium-sized and even the fans in the cheap seats could see what was going on, but still. I was in a good seat but still couldn't see every everything, thus the big screen could've even helped me. WWE has all their action on their big screen for every event.

[James Fabiano]

The WCW Hardcore Invitational from that one PPV in 1999.

[David-Arquette was in WCW 2000]

Apr 25, 2019 10:07:24 GMT -5 James Fabiano said:

The WCW Hardcore Invitational from that one PPV in 1999.

Oh man, that is just terrible in so many ways.

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Any matches that have the dreaded “Let me just rotate you to the hard camera” moment.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

WCW Torrie Wilson laughing. It was clear they never practiced the segment beforehand.

WWE ruining the Orton-Wyatt match by having the stupid horror graphics in the match while they were wrestling. It killed the match.

New Japan. This isn’t on the production but more on the individual. Jay White was having a match with somebody and he threw the guy towards the barrier, well the impact ended up knocking down the English announce team of Jim Ross and Josh Barnette. Let me be clear, Jay never did it on purpose to hurt JR, but Barnette went into business for himself and jumped the barricade trying to get at White. It killed the vibe in my opinion.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Apr 25, 2019 10:51:54 GMT -5 David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 said:

Apr 25, 2019 10:07:24 GMT -5 James Fabiano said:

The WCW Hardcore Invitational from that one PPV in 1999.

Oh man, that is just terrible in so many ways.

Everybody got injured from that match.

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

TNA has had a ton of them which is sad that the fact they are taped and SHOULD have been edit out a lot of things but didn't because of laziness I guess. ONE that still stands out the most is this crowd chant during Jeff Jarrett reign of terror days, it doesn't make your champion or company look so good when you have your crowd chant "change the channel or drop the title." This happened with Jeff Jarrett and the show air days later from tapping. Now I get WWECW had the same "Change the channel" chant but that was live TV or only hour delay from taping I believe. TNA had no reason outside of laziness.

Didn't in WCW when Kevin Nash was doing sit down interview segment for Thunder again NOT Live when he feuded with Scott Hall in 98. The the Boom Mic was seeing during it.

[KobashiChop]

Apr 25, 2019 10:54:17 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

WCW Torrie Wilson laughing. It was clear they never practiced the segment beforehand.

WWE ruining the Orton-Wyatt match by having the stupid horror graphics in the match while they were wrestling. It killed the match.

New Japan. This isn’t on the production but more on the individual. Jay White was having a match with somebody and he threw the guy towards the barrier, well the impact ended up knocking down the English announce team of Jim Ross and Josh Barnette. Let me be clear, Jay never did it on purpose to hurt JR, but Barnette went into business for himself and jumped the barricade trying to get at White. It killed the vibe in my opinion.

Jay White came out of that so amazingly well though. Hes shit talking and goading a former UFC champion only to chicken out and duck him once he accepts the challenge. White is such a hateable prick.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Apr 25, 2019 11:13:36 GMT -5 KobashiChop said:

Apr 25, 2019 10:54:17 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

WCW Torrie Wilson laughing. It was clear they never practiced the segment beforehand.

WWE ruining the Orton-Wyatt match by having the stupid horror graphics in the match while they were wrestling. It killed the match.

New Japan. This isn’t on the production but more on the individual. Jay White was having a match with somebody and he threw the guy towards the barrier, well the impact ended up knocking down the English announce team of Jim Ross and Josh Barnette. Let me be clear, Jay never did it on purpose to hurt JR, but Barnette went into business for himself and jumped the barricade trying to get at White. It killed the vibe in my opinion.

Jay White came out of that so amazingly well though. Hes shit talking and goading a former UFC champion only to chicken out and duck him once he accepts the challenge. White is such a hateable prick.

I don’t think it was acting lol, Barnette was such a prick for interrupting the match for an accident.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

TNA has a lot which is f***ing baffling because they tape these shows and should be able to edit that type of shit out

[Paul]

The red cage from the first TNA Monday show going up against Raw where you couldn't see what was going on in the ring.

Pictures are here in the WrestleCrap induction:

wrestlecrap.com/inductions/the-new-monday-night-wars-2010-gooker-award-winner/

[KobashiChop]

Apr 25, 2019 12:05:54 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Apr 25, 2019 11:13:36 GMT -5 KobashiChop said:

Jay White came out of that so amazingly well though. Hes shit talking and goading a former UFC champion only to chicken out and duck him once he accepts the challenge. White is such a hateable prick.

I don’t think it was acting lol, Barnette was such a prick for interrupting the match for an accident.

Barnett really didn't need to get after him but White managed to salvage it and get great heat out of it.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Apr 25, 2019 13:31:43 GMT -5 KobashiChop said:

Apr 25, 2019 12:05:54 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

I don’t think it was acting lol, Barnette was such a prick for interrupting the match for an accident.

Barnett really didn't need to get after him but White managed to salvage it and get great heat out of it.

I agree that he made the most of it, but Barnette could’ve attacked him for real, highly unprofessional.

[Hit Girl]

Rock vs Mankind.

The forklift camera.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Apr 25, 2019 13:45:12 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

Rock vs Mankind.

The forklift camera.

Even Prichard admits it was a mistake and what killed the segment.

[Hit Girl]

The Lauper/Piper/Richter segment had great resonance historically, but WWE had Michael Cole act like a twat and piss all over the segment for no logical reason.

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Apr 25, 2019 6:45:19 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

While you can list Triplemania-style technical difficulties, and I absolutely understand that, I am a bit more curious to hear about just outright bad decisions. Times where a company said, "This is what we want", and they shot a segment so bafflingly wrong-headed, you are simply stunned. Times where you can't fathom what the hell reaction the company was hoping for, versus what they got.

For me, I have two right off the bat, both from TNA.
- West and Tenay read off of scripts in full view of the camera. They're front and center, even. They do this while calling a Sting and Abyss brawl backstage that they cannot even see because they are looking down at their papers, and not at a monitor, if they even have one. This was NOT a live show, and someone at some stage viewed this and thought, "This is fit to air on television, and we couldn't possibly use a different camera shot, or even a crowd shot or blacked out, simulated technical difficult, both of which would look better and more plausible."

- Jeff Hardy's thoughts backstage can be heard by the audience, which I say is tied with a backstage brawl that stops when someone yells "and cut", with the wrestlers just standing around, no longer fighting, while we at home hear this audio cue. I cannot stress enough that this was NOT live.

Please, regale us with more tales of "what the hell was that?!"

Is your second example on YouTube?