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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 14:10:54 GMT -5
Didn’t watch Double or Nothing, but finally got around to watching the preshow battleroyal.
I can break down the guys into three groups...
Love em: Dustin Thomas Nakazawa Brian Pillman Jr. Jungle Boy Luchasaurus Marko Stunt (Stranger Things!) Sonny Kiss Orange Cassidy Adam Page
Ex WWE guys I hope to never see again: Billy Gunn Shawn Spears Glacier (ok maybe I would be fine with seeing him again) Tommy Dreamer
Who? / Indy as hell: MJF (I don’t get this guys hype. Miz jr.) Sunny Daze Brandon Cutler (Justin Credible jr.) Private Party Jimmy Havoc (eat a sandwich) Joey Janela (I’m was surprised to hear he was Page’s opponent at All in. Dude sucks) Ace Romero (put the cookie down)
Sell me on those I didn’t care for.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 14:52:18 GMT -5
MJF's really good at skits and promos. Romero moves well for his weight and is fairly charismatic. Janela's a great marketer and takes a lot of bumps to put the other guy over. I liked Havoc when he teamed with Darby Allin
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on May 31, 2019 15:39:10 GMT -5
I can see where you are coming from with some of your criticisms. But some of these guys you should really YouTube especially Janela and MJF. Both are incredibly charismatic and have had some fun matches.
Janela is my favorite of those you mentioned as not liking as he’s a true fan of wrestling and has done a bunch of stuff playing off legends.
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Post by Viking Hall on May 31, 2019 15:57:31 GMT -5
You lost me at Janela sucks.
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Post by funakifan88 on May 31, 2019 16:37:49 GMT -5
Justin Credible Jr.? Because he's skinny and bald? Come on man, be real.
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Post by beefy on May 31, 2019 16:44:43 GMT -5
you tell me why I should sell you on anyone, and i'll consider it
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 16:51:37 GMT -5
I like Romero’s pounce. Which I loved when Monty Brown did it. So I was on the fence about him more than the others.
But seriously some of those guys I mentioned have terrible physiques and ring attire, I it’s a random nickpick. But it’s seriously something takes me out of the show. Wrestlers are supposed to be larger than life. Cutler, Havoc, Private Party, even some of the guys I liked, it wouldn’t hurt them to hit the gym before the show starts on TNT. It’s one thing if I’m watching some Indy show on YouTube and it’s in front of 200 people. But under the bright lights and production values it was really noticeable. If I believe I could probably take them in a fight, what’s the point of watching them wrestle. Same reason I hate Kevin Owens
Also half of these guys don’t have Wikipedia pages. It’s 2019.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 31, 2019 16:55:31 GMT -5
well Orange Cassidy has been tearing up CHIKARA for a long while... under a different gimmick... That gimmick is of course... Mike Quackenbush >_> HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THEM AT THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME! Probably... but shutup... Seriously though... {Spoiler}{Spoiler} it's cool both founding members of the Colony are in big companies.... granted I wish WWE would do more with Gulak but that could be said with almost anyone in the WWE
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 17:00:26 GMT -5
Justin Credible Jr.? Because he's skinny and bald? Come on man, be real. It’s the wrestlers / commentaries job to sell me one someone. Five guys are coming out at once. I felt they did a good job with the guys I enjoyed. But Cutler was there from the the beginning and commentary put him over, but they keep forgetting this is the first time a lot of people are seeing these guys. They made it sound like I should care about him but niether commentary or Cutler himself explained “why”. So he was just kinda there. So yeah when I’m watching the show with a friend trying to care about some of these guys I’ve never heard of before. Yep. He’s Justin Credible jr.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 17:07:04 GMT -5
you tell me why I should sell you on anyone, and i'll consider it It’s a wrestling forum? This place is for discussion. I enjoyed the battle royal and would really love to see the company and these guys succeed. As I mentioned in my Justin Credible jr post, sometime a 15 minute battle royal can’t do a guy justice. (In the same breath it’s why I love the royal rumble and watch it with my non fan friends, you get introduced to everyone and everyone has a moment to shine.) So if there’s a match or promo I should check out on YouTube. Post it here. I’ll give the guy the benefit of the doubt .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 0:35:36 GMT -5
you tell me why I should sell you on anyone, and i'll consider it It’s a wrestling forum? This place is for discussion. I enjoyed the battle royal and would really love to see the company and these guys succeed. As I mentioned in my Justin Credible jr post, sometime a 15 minute battle royal can’t do a guy justice. (In the same breath it’s why I love the royal rumble and watch it with my non fan friends, you get introduced to everyone and everyone has a moment to shine.) So if there’s a match or promo I should check out on YouTube. Post it here. I’ll give the guy the benefit of the doubt . Watch the Joey Janela's Spring Break shows from 2019 on FITE. You'll see Janela have a couple of great singles matches, and most of the others as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 3:10:38 GMT -5
It’s a wrestling forum? This place is for discussion. I enjoyed the battle royal and would really love to see the company and these guys succeed. As I mentioned in my Justin Credible jr post, sometime a 15 minute battle royal can’t do a guy justice. (In the same breath it’s why I love the royal rumble and watch it with my non fan friends, you get introduced to everyone and everyone has a moment to shine.) So if there’s a match or promo I should check out on YouTube. Post it here. I’ll give the guy the benefit of the doubt . Watch the Joey Janela's Spring Break shows from 2019 on FITE. You'll see Janela have a couple of great singles matches, and most of the others as well. $15? I think we have a different ideas on the meaning of “sell”. Give me like three matches on YouTube.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jun 1, 2019 7:17:25 GMT -5
Not possible. There's no selling in wrestling anymore brother!
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jun 1, 2019 16:02:45 GMT -5
I’ll give my own opinion of the guys in the battle royale most of whom I had never seen before:
Liked em: Luchasaurus - cool gimmick, nice move set just wish he didn’t sell so much to put over the monster vibe Orange Cassidy - it’s a fun gimmick and I know he can do more Glacier - I’m a sucker for Glacier Shawn Spears - don’t remember him in wwe, looks like a good hand to have Brandon Cutler - likes him, seemed solid MJF - great heel, played it to a T Private Party - felt these guys didn’t do much in the match but could be a good tag team. Ace Romero - they need a fat guy, he seems good enough.
Don’t Care Dustin Thomas - Well it’s nice he got to appear but not sure what you can do with him long term. Brian Pillman Jr. - didn’t do anything to impress me. Sonny Kiss - same as Pillman Jr Adam Page - for all the hype I thought he was distinctly average Sunny Daze - so his gimmick is what? Need more promo time Jimmy Havoc - didn’t really see anything interesting in him
Dislike: Joey Janela - a lot of hype but seems really average and boring, even his Indy stuff I looked up. Tommy Dreamer - seem it all before, times up Billy Gunn - see t.dreamer Marko Stunt - nope, too small, scrawny, at least spike Dudley has the Dudley association. Marko looks like a fan jumped in the ring Nakazawa - If his baby oil thing is it then he needs to do it better as it looks really amateurish. Jungle Boy - I didn’t know LMFAO lead singer wrestled. Don’t understand what he has to do with jungles is he Tarzan?
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jun 1, 2019 16:23:15 GMT -5
you tell me why I should sell you on anyone, and i'll consider it It’s a wrestling forum? This place is for discussion. I enjoyed the battle royal and would really love to see the company and these guys succeed. As I mentioned in my Justin Credible jr post, sometime a 15 minute battle royal can’t do a guy justice. (In the same breath it’s why I love the royal rumble and watch it with my non fan friends, you get introduced to everyone and everyone has a moment to shine.) So if there’s a match or promo I should check out on YouTube. Post it here. I’ll give the guy the benefit of the doubt . The way you phrased it was not good. We don’t employ these people. If you don’t like them don’t watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 16:49:07 GMT -5
It’s a wrestling forum? This place is for discussion. I enjoyed the battle royal and would really love to see the company and these guys succeed. As I mentioned in my Justin Credible jr post, sometime a 15 minute battle royal can’t do a guy justice. (In the same breath it’s why I love the royal rumble and watch it with my non fan friends, you get introduced to everyone and everyone has a moment to shine.) So if there’s a match or promo I should check out on YouTube. Post it here. I’ll give the guy the benefit of the doubt . The way you phrased it was not good. We don’t employ these people. If you don’t like them don’t watch. I’m sorry some took offense. Just my opinions of a first time viewer for a lot of these guys. The entire point of this thread is show me what I’m missing. Maybe the right match or promo maybe it could change my mind. So when the show comes on TNT maybe I can watch with a more open mind.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 1, 2019 18:30:58 GMT -5
The way you phrased it was not good. We don’t employ these people. If you don’t like them don’t watch. I’m sorry some took offense. Just my opinions of a first time viewer for a lot of these guys. The entire point of this thread is show me what I’m missing. Maybe the right match or promo maybe it could change my mind. So when the show comes on TNT maybe I can watch with a more open mind. i got you, i didnt get the rude vibe. Honestly I dont know much about those duesand the only thing I know about Joey Janela is that he is a safe worker.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 1, 2019 19:01:35 GMT -5
Youtube is that way.
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Post by Raskovnik on Jun 1, 2019 19:56:34 GMT -5
This time might somehow be totally different but in my decades of forum browsing I've literally never once seen any thread where someone was like "SELL ME ON SOMETHING" actually sell anyone on anything
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 19:59:46 GMT -5
I have no idea who MJF is but I was only watching a few minutes before I decided he felt like a big deal star to me.
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