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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jul 6, 2019 3:12:47 GMT -5
That toss suplex/flapjack that Moxley has started doing. Looks like it could easily go wrong. At a show a few months back, we had some time to go over spots, practice moves, etc before the doors opened. One of the guys wanted to try this on me and I just flat out refused. I'm not usually one for backing out of moves but it was a big hell no to this. Anyway, he goes out there in the main event, does to move to guy he's facing and f***s it up. Not to the point of injury, but still, so much room for error.
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Post by Venti on Jul 6, 2019 3:24:27 GMT -5
Almost forgot, the Tiger Driver 91 is another tough one to watch
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 6, 2019 4:33:05 GMT -5
If we are talking moves that make me cringe because they look stupid, the Slingshot/Catapult looks dumb by any standards, and lacks the cool factor that something like the Canadian Destroyer to justify its existence.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 6, 2019 4:47:48 GMT -5
If we are talking moves that make me cringe because they look stupid, the Slingshot/Catapult looks dumb by any standards, and lacks the cool factor that something like the Canadian Destroyer to justify its existence. I think that, situationally, it can look fine, but it's often done way too slow and stiffly to look natural at all. If they can do it fluidly, it sometimes looks alright. Also helps a bit if it's a guillotine in the ropes, so then they don't have to travel far, making it a little more plausible.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 6, 2019 4:50:24 GMT -5
If we are talking moves that make me cringe because they look stupid, the Slingshot/Catapult looks dumb by any standards, and lacks the cool factor that something like the Canadian Destroyer to justify its existence. I think that, situationally, it can look fine, but it's often done way too slow and stiffly to look natural at all. If they can do it fluidly, it sometimes looks alright. Also helps a bit if it's a guillotine in the ropes, so then they don't have to travel far, making it a little more plausible. The guillotine in the ropes, when done by a big guy, does have some plausibility. Albert looked alright doing that move, for example. As far as a full slingshot goes, the only I guy I would really want to see doing it would be Cesaro or someone of his ilk, who is associated enough with freaky crazy power moves, and it can be tied into his Giant Swing move.
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Post by schma on Jul 6, 2019 5:42:22 GMT -5
I've never liked the Styles Clash. Visually it's terrible, it requires way too much help from the person receiving, takes way too long to even do and there doesn't seem to be a way for a person to protect themselves properly.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 6, 2019 5:45:28 GMT -5
Kota Ibushi is extremely talented. He doesn’t need to use that second rope release german suplex or kneeling driver move to have great matches. It’s impossible for him to protect his opponents when he uses those moves.
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Post by Derk! on Jul 6, 2019 8:23:37 GMT -5
I'll echo the sentiments of the Border Toss. I thought it was cool years ago, but seeing it now, dude was REALLY reckless with it.
I will also go with moves done on the ring apron, particularly that dangerous German Suplex that Kota Ibushi took recently.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jul 6, 2019 8:31:43 GMT -5
ARMBAR
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 6, 2019 8:42:20 GMT -5
I felt this way before Hiromu Takahashi was injured, but I've never liked the Phoenix Plex.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 6, 2019 9:26:42 GMT -5
Diving Headbutt, unprotected chairshots, and head-dropping moves on the apron.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jul 6, 2019 9:54:00 GMT -5
less from a safety perspective and more from sheer ridiculousness, Im really glad nobody ever duplicated that stupid superplex-into-a-suplex-over-the-ropes-to-the-floor bullshit Eddie Edwards and Davey Richards did.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Jul 6, 2019 10:20:08 GMT -5
Regarding the couple of superplex posts, I hate the Edwards/Richards thing, as the guy that took the move no sold it.
But there is precedence for the guy performing the superplex to not be hurting after. Barry Windham used to float over into a pin right after the move, so, with that in mind, I can see where a guy performing it could roll it into a follow up move.
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Post by Honeybear Lyder on Jul 6, 2019 10:20:54 GMT -5
Piledriver is actually a pretty safe move if you use Jerry Lawler's version (drop back and down on your ass), as opposed to jumping straight up and sticking the victim's head into the mat. Backdrop drivers, on the other hand, are always dangerous.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 11:19:46 GMT -5
That toss suplex/flapjack that Moxley has started doing. Looks like it could easily go wrong. At a show a few months back, we had some time to go over spots, practice moves, etc before the doors opened. One of the guys wanted to try this on me and I just flat out refused. I'm not usually one for backing out of moves but it was a big hell no to this. Anyway, he goes out there in the main event, does to move to guy he's facing and f***s it up. Not to the point of injury, but still, so much room for error. Yeah I don’t get the move at all since for how dangerous it is it doesn’t even look cool.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 6, 2019 11:21:27 GMT -5
Regarding the couple of superplex posts, I hate the Edwards/Richards thing, as the guy that took the move no sold it. But there is precedence for the guy performing the superplex to not be hurting after. Barry Windham used to float over into a pin right after the move, so, with that in mind, I can see where a guy performing it could roll it into a follow up move. Yeah that's why Seth's falcon arrow doesn't bother me too much. The Davey/Eddie thing give guy taking the superplex is the one that did the suplex out of the ring. I really need to find that old article where a Canadian destroyer type move was used in an amateur wrestling match.
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Post by chrom on Jul 6, 2019 11:28:33 GMT -5
How has anyone not been crippled by the moves Orange Cassidy does I'll never know.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 6, 2019 13:46:06 GMT -5
a good, solid on the mark chop
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jul 6, 2019 14:33:34 GMT -5
90% of the time (I'm being generous!) Hurricanranas look terrible and ridiculous.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jul 6, 2019 15:03:23 GMT -5
How has anyone not been crippled by the moves Orange Cassidy does I'll never know. That man will be a shambling wreck by his mid forties if he doesn't slow down
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