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Post by bitteroldman on Jul 14, 2019 17:50:55 GMT -5
You want to make the initial tag team champs a kid who's greener than goose crap and a reject from Slipknot? Riiigghhht Ignoring how wrong you are for just a second... If they’re the most over people in the company and it’s their time...sure. That’s sort of how the business side of wrestling works. Thanks for pointing out how wrong I was and doing it in a manner that wasn't condescending in the least. As far as being over, well plenty of talent has been over but that doesn't mean you put titles on them. At this juncture, would it not be better to use established talents to get the belts over first, before trying to use the belts to elevate talents?
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Post by Dub H on Jul 14, 2019 17:54:07 GMT -5
Ignoring how wrong you are for just a second... If they’re the most over people in the company and it’s their time...sure. That’s sort of how the business side of wrestling works. Thanks for pointing out how wrong I was and doing it in a manner that wasn't condescending in the least. As far as being over, well plenty of talent has been over but that doesn't mean you put titles on them. At this juncture, would it not be better to use established talents to get the belts over first, before trying to use the belts to elevate talents? Oh please dont pull the condescing schtick,you were the first to be condescing.Treat other as you want to be treated and all that
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 14, 2019 17:55:20 GMT -5
And I'll be the last to do it here. Please, guys, it's totally fine to debate the merits of wrestlers, who to go with, etc, but we don't need to be antagonistic with each other.
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Post by eJm on Jul 14, 2019 17:55:26 GMT -5
Ignoring how wrong you are for just a second... If they’re the most over people in the company and it’s their time...sure. That’s sort of how the business side of wrestling works. Thanks for pointing out how wrong I was and doing it in a manner that wasn't condescending in the least. As far as being over, well plenty of talent has been over but that doesn't mean you put titles on them. At this juncture, would it not be better to use established talents to get the belts over first, before trying to use the belts to elevate talents? Considering you came into this thread being condescending to people about their views and the people they like, you pretty much have no real right to call others out on it but you are right, I should have worded it better so I apologise And yes, maybe they should put it on established talents and they probably will but again, Wrestling is a business. If there’s someone selling a lot of merch and getting good reactions, there is a good likelihood you’d put the belts on them. Because, again, a massive part of the wrestling business (and one WWE themselves forget and WCW, TNA and ROH made a part of their business model to never do under any circumstance) is to capitalize on opportunities when they come to make the most money.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 17:57:18 GMT -5
Also, something I feel like is being forgotten in all of this is that they're not crowning the tag champions until after they're on TNT anyway - there's plenty of time to show off Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus on free TV and let the casual audience see what they can do before they'd actually be getting the belts even if they are the first champs.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jul 14, 2019 18:06:37 GMT -5
Have you actually seen Luchasaurus wrestle? I watched the "pre-show" battle royal from the last PPV, so yes I have. And I'm about to watch the PPV from Saturday, I was working and couldn't view it live. I'm not questioning his in-ring ability, I'm questioning the concept of making these guys the initial AEW tag team champs. If you want to be taken seriously by a larger segment of the viewing public you dont make a kid and his pet lizard your initial tag team champions. Well the fact your only judging them by a battle royal and not them in a full match. The thing is though is wrestling you go with the hot hand and you run with it to make money. Now the tag title tournament won't start until TNT so that viewing crowd will see them in tournament matches first and lets see what kind of reaction they get. Right now, so far they been one of the most over acts. That what you want on top of the food chain the talent fans are getting into. Not every wrestler on top has to be 100% serious. Yes the gimmick is out there sure, but it stands out from the rest of the crowd. It's different and in a lot of ways fresh to what the standard WWE for example heels and faces have been. Being taking serious is about making new starts that fans are buying into. AEW so far as more than done that as a company, fans are buying into it. The fact that these thousands of fans keep reacting in a big way for them says something. So would it be THAT crazy if you most over act becomes a first champion? IMO it doesn't.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 14, 2019 18:08:32 GMT -5
Thanks for pointing out how wrong I was and doing it in a manner that wasn't condescending in the least. As far as being over, well plenty of talent has been over but that doesn't mean you put titles on them. At this juncture, would it not be better to use established talents to get the belts over first, before trying to use the belts to elevate talents? Considering you came into this thread being condescending to people about their views and the people they like, you pretty much have no real right to call others out on it but you are right, I should have worded it better so I apologise And yes, maybe they should put it on established talents and they probably will but again, Wrestling is a business. If there’s someone selling a lot of merch and getting good reactions, there is a good likelihood you’d put the belts on them. Because, again, a massive part of the wrestling business (and one WWE themselves forget and WCW, TNA and ROH made a part of their business model to never do under any circumstance) is to capitalize on opportunities when they come to make the most money. This is why I didn't want then to win the triple threat. I want then to build the team in the tournament.
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Post by bitteroldman on Jul 14, 2019 18:22:37 GMT -5
Thanks for pointing out how wrong I was and doing it in a manner that wasn't condescending in the least. As far as being over, well plenty of talent has been over but that doesn't mean you put titles on them. At this juncture, would it not be better to use established talents to get the belts over first, before trying to use the belts to elevate talents? Considering you came into this thread being condescending to people about their views and the people they like, you pretty much have no real right to call others out on it but you are right, I should have worded it better so I apologise And yes, maybe they should put it on established talents and they probably will but again, Wrestling is a business. If there’s someone selling a lot of merch and getting good reactions, there is a good likelihood you’d put the belts on them. Because, again, a massive part of the wrestling business (and one WWE themselves forget and WCW, TNA and ROH made a part of their business model to never do under any circumstance) is to capitalize on opportunities when they come to make the most money. You're right,I was snotty and I got a receipt for it.
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Post by thegatewaydrug on Jul 14, 2019 19:55:15 GMT -5
Were they originally meant and brought in to be a tag team? Or, did those in charge see their interaction during the Double or Nothing battle royale and decide they'd be a great combo?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 14, 2019 20:17:59 GMT -5
Were they originally meant and brought in to be a tag team? Or, did those in charge see their interaction during the Double or Nothing battle royale and decide they'd be a great combo? They were teaming on the indies apparently but the original plan from what I can tell was not to have them team. They wanted both for different reasons and it just clicked
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 14, 2019 21:58:13 GMT -5
Were they originally meant and brought in to be a tag team? Or, did those in charge see their interaction during the Double or Nothing battle royale and decide they'd be a great combo? They were teaming on the indies apparently but the original plan from what I can tell was not to have them team. They wanted both for different reasons and it just clicked They didn't even sign Luchasaurus until after Double or Nothing, whereas Jungle Boy was on the original roster. Clearly, they wanted Jungle Boy as a singles competitor at first, but realized they will have better visibility and mobility in the tag division. The thing that helps them standout against the more established teams is that no other team has a Big Guy, Little Guy dynamic in this division.
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Post by deadzeppelin on Jul 14, 2019 23:23:43 GMT -5
I don't dislike Marko Stunt but I was made when they threw them with boy and Dino. Maybe I'll like it in time.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 14, 2019 23:27:48 GMT -5
I don't dislike Marko Stunt but I was made when they threw them with boy and Dino. Maybe I'll like it in time. For some reason, part of me is expecting Marko to betray them in some capacity.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 23:32:12 GMT -5
If you would have told me that the guy crying in the Diary Room on Big Brother a few years ago would be an over act in wrestling in 2019, I would have laughed at you. So...good for Luchasaurus, man. Crazy where life takes us.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jul 14, 2019 23:56:25 GMT -5
I don't dislike Marko Stunt but I was made when they threw them with boy and Dino. Maybe I'll like it in time. For some reason, part of me is expecting Marko to betray them in some capacity. That's because Marko and his whole stinky family are pure evil!
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Post by Dub H on Jul 14, 2019 23:58:08 GMT -5
Part of me hopes they just act like they met in the jungle.
That Jungle Boy was legit raised in a jungle and met a man with dinosaur dna.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 15, 2019 0:06:24 GMT -5
Part of me hopes they just act like they met in the jungle. That Jungle Boy was legit raised in a jungle and met a man with dinosaur dna. Somehow, I hope that it's true that Jungle Boy was raised in the jungle, but was also lovingly brought up by the late Luke Perry. It should be a total contradiction, but Hollywood can be weird like that I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 0:09:13 GMT -5
If you would have told me that the guy crying in the Diary Room on Big Brother a few years ago would be an over act in wrestling in 2019, I would have laughed at you. So...good for Luchasaurus, man. Crazy where life takes us. What if I told u that also applies to Holly King from Big Brother season 5? Or that a producer on Big Brother was the brain behind Edges heel run in WWE The Rabbit hole it goes real deep with wrestling and Big Brother
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Post by Muskrat on Jul 15, 2019 8:41:59 GMT -5
For some reason, part of me is expecting Marko to betray them in some capacity. That's because Marko and his whole stinky family are pure evil! Marko Stunt looks like the drug addicted love child of ECW Spike Dudley and a Fraggle. F*** Marko Stunt EDIT: Also, I’ve been saying it for awhile but if AEW plays their cards right and let him grow naturally, in 18-24 months Jungle Boy is gonna be a superstar for them. Potential face of the company down the road.
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Post by eJm on Jul 15, 2019 8:43:26 GMT -5
That's because Marko and his whole stinky family are pure evil! Marko Stunt looks like the drug addicted love child of ECW Spike Dudley and a Fraggle. F*** Marko Stunt I'm confused, you say two awesome things then say they're fused together to become a human and then say he sucks for it. Baffled. Utterly baffled.
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