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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 10, 2019 23:43:53 GMT -5
Wrestler is being pinned. Ref counts 1, then 2 and as his hand is coming down for three, the pinned wrestler suddenly reaches out and either grabs the refs arm to keep it from touching the mat; or, sliding their own hand underneath the ref's and "catching" it from striking the mat?
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 10, 2019 23:45:29 GMT -5
It sounds like something I’ve seen on the indies, but damn if I can name a specific match.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 11, 2019 1:00:43 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I've seen this done in a multi-man match where a third party grabs the refs hand and stops the count. In a one on one match, why would risk a DQ for touching the ref when about the same level of energy exertion could allow for a kickout?
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Aug 11, 2019 1:34:54 GMT -5
Super J-Cup 2000, hosted by Michinoku Pro Wrestling... first round, Curry Man vs. Onryu. link to show on YouTubeEDIT: Onryu does it again later in his match against CIMA, at about 1:30:00 on the video. |
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Post by kidtamagotchi on Aug 11, 2019 1:38:43 GMT -5
I feel like I have seen this before, but which specific match I saw it in, I can't remember. I feel like it was maybe in a TNA/Impact Wrestling match.
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Post by deadzeppelin on Aug 11, 2019 3:16:25 GMT -5
Couldn't tell you what match but I'm pretty certain someone in WWE has done this within last 2 years.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 11, 2019 4:27:18 GMT -5
Couldn't tell you what match but I'm pretty certain someone in WWE has done this within last 2 years. I want to say The Revival have done it |
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Post by Garyspivey on Aug 11, 2019 6:46:04 GMT -5
Couldn't tell you what match but I'm pretty certain someone in WWE has done this within last 2 years. I want to say The Revival have done it I thought that was both revival guys in a submission when one was about to tap, the other grabbed their arm to stop them |
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 11, 2019 11:12:08 GMT -5
Juice Robinson just did something sort of along these lines, having his arm lifted while trapped in an STF, and grabbing the referee to not let his arm drop, preventing being TKO'd.
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Post by kidtamagotchi on Aug 11, 2019 13:35:19 GMT -5
I now remember that Rush did this in a match in CMLL, but who was in the match, I can't remember (my mind is saying it was one of the L.A. Park matches, whether singles or tags, I'm not sure).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 13:54:34 GMT -5
I mean... I could see it. But logically, why would he go through all the trouble of catching the refs hand instead of just lifting his shoulder off the mat?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 11, 2019 13:57:39 GMT -5
I mean... I could see it. But logically, why would he go through all the trouble of catching the refs hand instead of just lifting his shoulder off the mat? Why do wrestlers do half the shit they do when there's easier ways? And maybe they're pinned in a way they have movement of the arm but not leverage to lift the shoulder. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 13:59:48 GMT -5
I mean... I could see it. But logically, why would he go through all the trouble of catching the refs hand instead of just lifting his shoulder off the mat? Why do wrestlers do half the shit they do when there's easier ways? And maybe they're pinned in a way they have movement of the arm but not leverage to lift the shoulder. Yeah in fairness, most of the stuff doesn’t make sense anyway. So why not? I could see the crowd popping for this. Especially if he took a hell of a beating and then caught the hand out of nowhere lol. |
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Aug 12, 2019 10:32:36 GMT -5
I like the idea, but I see 2 problems with it:
1. If they reach up to grab the arm/hand, then their shoulder is most likely already off the mat, thus making the grab superfluous
2. If all they do is slide their hand under to stop the count, they haven't actually broken the pin because you have to raise the shoulder
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Post by Dang! on Aug 12, 2019 10:54:56 GMT -5
Juice Robinson just did something sort of along these lines, having his arm lifted while trapped in an STF, and grabbing the referee to not let his arm drop, preventing being TKO'd. This makes no sense. If he's able to hold on to the ref, he would be able to keep his arm up. I always understood the "arm drop" as a test if somebody's still conscious. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 12, 2019 12:39:06 GMT -5
Some of you are serious buzzkills who pick the weirdest times to start trying to apply logic and physics to f***ing pro wrestling.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Aug 12, 2019 14:25:45 GMT -5
Sure sounds like grounds for a DQ.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 15:26:13 GMT -5
Some of you are serious buzzkills who pick the weirdest times to start trying to apply logic and physics to f***ing pro wrestling. |
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Post by Mike Bockwinkel on Aug 12, 2019 16:53:58 GMT -5
Something very similar happened at NXT Takeover Toronto in the North American Championship
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Post by petef3 on Aug 12, 2019 20:58:29 GMT -5
2. If all they do is slide their hand under to stop the count, they haven't actually broken the pin because you have to raise the shoulder Yeah, this is like the equivalent of bearhugging the side judge in football and preventing him from raising his arms and somehow nullifying a touchdown because of it. |
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