What's your opinion on each of the DCEU movies?

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Yeah, why not, this is a conversation I feel like having. Full disclosure hell if I know if Aquaman and Shazam still actually count or not but since they were at least at some point being made with that intention I'm counting them if only to keep this thread from being 90% hate and 10% Wonder Woman.

Man of Steel: I'd rather rewatch any of the other movies than see this one again just because it's so freaking boring. The most interesting things about it are how horrible Pa Kent is and counting the massive amounts of product placement in the Smallville fight. Morning after I saw this I watched Superman and the Mole Men and got way more enjoyment out of that.

Batman vs. Superman: I do at least find it a lot more watchable than Man of Steel, mostly because while it's a lot more active in its stupidity. Scenes just feel like they're edited into a completely random order, almost nobody's character motivations make any sense, everyone is an idiot who avoids the obvious solution to every problem at all costs for no apparent reason, Luthor is so horrendous it's astounding someone actually let this performance make it into theaters, it's just a disaster. Granted it's still pretty boring on the whole, not a whole lot happens in the first half and then the second decides to in the middle of building momentum stop and have Diana watch some teaser trailers for Justice League for no reason. I'd just rather watch it again than I would Man of Steel.

Suicide Squad: It's a disaster but I found it a fairly breezy one. I feel like it's more watchable than either of the movies before it, but the tone is all over the place, they couldn't have made it any more obvious when reshoots happened because they're all done as clumsily as possible (like Deadshot putting his mask on for a single scene for no apparent reason), the villain is boring, the stakes are way too high for what this is, Joker is absolutely terrible, it's a mess. Though El Diablo is pretty much the most interesting character in the three movies to this point so I'll give the movie a point on that one. Shame everyone else is a half-baked mess. I still have no idea what Killer Croc was even doing there, he contributes basically nothing. I've kind of meant to rewatch it but I feel like I'd be a lot more venomous toward it if I did.

Wonder Woman: Love it. It does get a bit messy at the end, but on the whole it's a lot of fun and really nails the character with a lot of memorable bits along the way. I really need to watch it again, but a lot of aspects of it still majorly stick out to me.

Justice League: I didn't hate it but it's not good. Mostly just found it stupid but breezy, doesn't really make any sense and it never really feels like it has any stakes. I feel like I'd take a lot more issue with it if I saw it again but at least in the moment I found it a tolerable dumb popcorn flick, and while he's barely in it I do think the movie's depiction of Superman is very good, even if pretty much all of that came from reshoots with poor CGI Caesar Romero-ing. I still have absolutely no clue what the purpose was of those constant cuts to that random family.

Aquaman: Not seen it. I've been meaning to but there was something or other going on with me when it was in theaters and I just haven't made the time to watch it on my own yet. What I've heard I kind of get the sense I would probably find it an okay, not great, watch, but I can't really say for sure yet. Might watch it in a little bit before SummerSlam, I dunno, I don't have much else going on. One thing I will admit is that I completely expected this movie to flop and was stunned it did as well as it did. I thought the decades of the character being a joke in the eyes of the general public would be too much to overcome and was totally wrong on that one.

Shazam: Love it, so damn good, might even like it more than Wonder Woman. They really nail the feel of Captain Marvel (and I super appreciate that they never use either name, good way to juggle that) and it's a blast to watch. Only real grievance I have is that the ending fight scene goes on too long, but that's kind of every superhero movie post-Avengers so I don't really mind much and to be fair it's really the only actual fight scene in the movie. One thing I love about it is that it's super adaptable - it's a great superhero movie, a great family movie, would make a great Christmas movie, it's funny, it's heartfelt, just love it to bits. Probably going to watch it again within the next few days since I've been wondering about it.

[Citizen Snips Has Left]

Man of Steel- Dumb

Dawn of Justice- Amazingly terrible

Suicide Squad- Dear Lord awful

Wonder Woman- Gal Gadot is incredible, movie itself is mediocre

Justice League- Laughably misguided

Aquaman- Just there. Neither good nor awful

Shazam!- Remarkably entertaining

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Man of Steel: A missed opportunity. It's so dour and uninteresting. It's like a parody of "What if Christopher Nolan made Superman?" Except Snyder is no Nolan, so it fell flat.

Batman v. Superman: An expansive mess. In isolation, there's bits and performances that could work. On rewatch the idea of making Luthor this tech geek megalomaniac actually work with a modern interpretation of the character... Just not in this movie. And that's the story of the film. It's very much many different and clashing pieces jammed together to make... Yeah. Even the score reflects that with how disjointed it is.

Suicide Squad: The less said about this, the better.

Wonder Woman: Really good first half, kinda underwhelming second half. Overall good, watchable.

Justice League: Fell asleep about an hour in, didn't watch the final half till later and overall don't remember much about it.

Aquaman: Only saw the first half(it was alright) and chase scene with Black Manta, thought that was cool, might check it out again later on.

Shazam: Haven't seen.

[Mister Pigwell]

Only seen WW, Aquaman, and Shazam.

Loved WW and Shazam, liked Aquaman a lot.

[Stu]

So the DCEU is or isn't done? I thought it was done, but I keep hearing about sequels to Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Suicide Squad.

Only saw Man of Steel and didn't care enough to watch any of the others. Always been more of a Marvel fan and got the idea that DC was trying too hard to expedite a cinematic universe after seeing the MCU's success.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Aug 11, 2019 15:06:31 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

Only seen WW, Aquaman, and Shazam.

Loved WW and Shazam, liked Aquaman a lot.

Suicide Squad isn't bad a just a turn your brain off action movie with the music choices probably being the best thing about it

The Joker stuff and all that is meh as i'm sure you already know. 

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Aug 11, 2019 15:12:03 GMT -5 Stu said:

So the DCEU is or isn't done? I thought it was done, but I keep hearing about sequels to Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Suicide Squad.

Only saw Man of Steel and didn't care enough to watch any of the others. Always been more of a Marvel fan and got the idea that DC was trying too hard to expedite a cinematic universe after seeing the MCU's success.

It is sort of done

They have sequels to films but they aren't really connecting them in a way that makes it seem like something bigger is on the horizon. Everything is sort of in their own bubble and they take it movie by movie 

[I'm Team Bayley and Indi]

Man of Steel is the sort of film that annoyed me the more I thought about it

[Stu]

Aug 11, 2019 15:13:38 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Aug 11, 2019 15:12:03 GMT -5 Stu said:

So the DCEU is or isn't done? I thought it was done, but I keep hearing about sequels to Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Suicide Squad.

Only saw Man of Steel and didn't care enough to watch any of the others. Always been more of a Marvel fan and got the idea that DC was trying too hard to expedite a cinematic universe after seeing the MCU's success.

It is sort of done

They have sequels to films but they aren't really connecting them in a way that makes it seem like something bigger is on the horizon. Everything is sort of in their own bubble and they take it movie by movie 

Is the Joker film part of all this? Because then I'd want to know how they explain Joaquin Phoenix and Jared Leto.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Aug 11, 2019 15:17:22 GMT -5 Stu said:

Aug 11, 2019 15:13:38 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

It is sort of done

They have sequels to films but they aren't really connecting them in a way that makes it seem like something bigger is on the horizon. Everything is sort of in their own bubble and they take it movie by movie 

Is the Joker film part of all this? Because then I'd want to know how they explain Joaquin Phoenix and Jared Leto.

Nope. Phoenix movie is its own thing completely that has nothing to do with anything they have done thus far

Leto movie, which he is trying to get done on his own is supposed to be a continuation of Joker but that seems dead in the water

[Cyno]

Man of Steel, Suicide Squad, Batman vs. Superman, and Justice League:



Wonder Woman: Excellent. Really looking forward to the sequel.

Haven't seen Shazam or Aquaman yet.

[4real]

I’ll just rate the ones I’ve seen

Man Of Steel: It’s ok, some of the action scenes were pretty cool. Could have been better.

Suicide Squad: Not as bad as people make out. It’s fine. Leto is awful as The Joker though.

Batman v Superman: Incredibly boring first half. Fight scene when it happens is ok. Very underwhelming film.

Justice League: Good god this film is boring and lifeless.

[mcmahonfan85]

i don't hate any of them, and enjoy all of them to varying degrees, but that's because for a lot i went in with extremely low expectations


Man of Steel - meh

Batman v Superman - enjoyed it, but it is not a well made movie. it could've and should've been a hell of a lot better

Suicide Squad - its alright. its got some good parts, its got some bad parts (*cough*Joker*cough*), and the music is fine. but overall the film is completely unnecessary and feels like it was done solely in response to Guardians of the Galaxy, and when i think of the DCEU its the one i usually forget or think of last

Wonder Woman - a good movie, but i think it is somewhat overrated because it feels like people grade it on a curve due to the DCEU's piss poor performance thus far and because it is a female led movie both on and off screen. i wish i could remember what it was, but a few months after the movie came out some website declared Patty Jenkins the most important and influential female film director in history, despite the fact that A) she made a grand total to two films in a fourteen year span, and B) Kathryn Bigelow was sitting at home with her Oscar for Best Director

Justice League (theatrical) - same as Batman v Superman

Justice League (Snyder Cut) - GREATEST MOVIE EVER OF ALL TIME!!!1!

Aquaman - only one i didn't see in theaters, and when i saw it at home i was on my computer half the time and wasn't fully paying attention. so i enjoyed it, but i have to give it a rewatch

Shazam - probably my favorite out of all of them

[häšhtå.gdālėÿ]

I’ve seen BvS, Suicide Squad, Justice League, and Aquaman.

And I really enjoyed them all. The packed theatre I was in for BvS gave it a standing ovation... the only time I’ve ever experienced that in theaters.

[topdawg]

Man of Steel: Really like it, prefer it to most of the MCU

Batman vs Superman: Complete pile of crap. Horrible movie

Suicide Squad: Good in a "so bad it's enjoyable" way.

Wonder Woman: I'd have it as a top-5 comic movie ever. Great movie.

Justice League: It's there. Not good or bad, just there.

Aquaman: Liked it a lot. Behind Wonder Woman, about even with Man of Steel.

Shazam: Surprised by how much I liked this movie. Thought I would despise it, but it far exceeded my expectations.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Man of Steel - Great casting choices propping up a visually bland movie with a half-baked plot.

Batman v Superman - More great casting choices (Batman and Wonder Woman), the best on-screen Batman fight sequence, but otherwise garbage.

Suicide Squad - Visually distinctive, and a surprisingly good performance from Jai "Hollywood's Mike Kanellis" Courtney. Will Smith is decent, and Leto's Joker is interesting (though not good). Everything else is lousy.

Wonder Woman - Genuinely great but fails to stick the landing with that clunker of a final battle.

Justice League - A marked improvement on BVS, but still not good. Stealing a f***load of The Avengers' plot really didn't help.

Aquaman - Great fun. Not clever, not deep, but very enjoyable.

Shazam! - Even more fun, and has heart as well, which helps paper over some of the flaws.

[DSR]

Man of Steel - A complete and total bore. I'm a dude who can find value in even the worst comic book/superhero movies, and I have no desire to see this flat, drab nonsense ever again.

Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice - Went in with the lowest expectations and came away enjoying it a good deal. Affleck's Batman is great, Gadot is awesome. They still don't get Superman at all, but if you're not watching it as a Superman movie, I think it's cool.

Suicide Squad: A total mess. I find it somehow enjoyable, but it's obvious they had no idea what they were doing making this one.

Wonder Woman: A genuinely good movie. I like it a lot.

Justice League: Flawed, but still pretty enjoyable. It's obviously in the process of course-correction, but I think it sticks the landing. We finally get a good Superman to go with our good Batman and Wonder Woman. And our incredible...

Aquaman: Best of the bunch in my opinion. It's willing to get weird, willing to throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks...and all of it sticks! Star Wars of the depths...Depths Wars, if you will. Loved it. Total fun from start to finish.

Shazam!: On par with Wonder Woman. Zachary Levi owns the role. Fun when it needs to be, serious when it needs to be. The found family dynamic is heartwarming. I like it.

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Man of Steel - I don't mind this one as much as some other people, but it still wasn't great. Enjoyed the casting, though.

Batman vs. Superman - Man...one of the most disappointing movie experiences.

Suicide Squad - It had positives, but they don't outweigh the negatives.

Wonder Woman - Gal is great. And the movie is mostly strong. It falls apart, but it's mostly positive.

Justice League - It didn't fully come together the way it should have, I think.

Aquaman - I actually think this might be my favorite of the lot. Still not a great movie, but I think it's the most organized and accomplishes what they wanted.

Shazam! - I'll be honest, I wasn't as big a fan of this as much as others. Most of it felt forced to me.

Overall, I'm not very high on the DC movies. But you know...whether they try to do things over or keep on chugging, it is what it is. To see these characters on the big screen is still pretty cool.

[Jiren]

Man Of Steel
Pros
- Great action sequences
- Decent performances from most
- Looked Nice
- Faora was hot as hell

Cons
- Daft Plot, Seriously it made no sense
- Miserable
- Pa Kent was a dick
- Amy Adams as Lois

Batman vs Superman (Theatrical)
Pros
- Ben Affleck
- Gal Gadot
- Henry Cavill

Cons
- Nonsensical Plot
- Batman is a psycho
- laughable moments
- weak action scenes
- WAY too bleak
- It feels like Part 3 of a trilogy that got released before part 2
- Doomsday
- Jessie Eisenberg

Batman vs Superman (Directors Cut)
Pros
- Ben Affleck
- Gal Gadot
- Henry Cavill
- Story Makes More Sense

Cons
- Batman is a psycho
- laughable moments (martha)
- weak action scenes
- WAY too bleak
- It feels like Part 3 of a trilogy that got released before part 2
- Doomsday
- Jessie Eisenberg

Suicide Squad
Pros
- Margot Robbie
- Viola Davis

Cons
- Messy & nonsensical Plot
- Action sequences sucked because they were all over the place
- Poor character Development
- Joker
- Enchantress
- Editing
- F/X


Wonder Woman
Pros
- Story while basic did it's job well
- Good Performances across the board
- Likable Characters
- Great character development
- Great Action scenes
- Humor was spot on
- Good Villains
- Looked Nice
- No Man's Land Scene (Needed ti be said on it's own)
- Good F/X

Cons
- Final Fight is a bit weak but still decent

Justice League
Pros
- Good performances from the heroes
- Looked good
- Good Action

Cons
- Messy story
- Crap Villain
- Crap Humor

Aquaman
Pros
- Good performances
- Good engaging Story
- Great character development
- Likable leads
- Great action Sequences
- Black Manta & Ocean Master were well done
- Looks beautiful
- Humor was good

Cons
- Manta was underused (But that's a MINOR niggle)

Captain Marvel....Okay Shazam
Pros
- Plot was good
- Great character development
- Tone was well balanced, Dark/Funny when it needed to be
- Good performances
- Likable Characters
- Great Action
- Good villain
- Looked nice
- Good Humor
- Good F/X
- The Cameo
- Great Post credit sequences

Cons
I would've preferred Mary to wear her Black Outfit.....Ok I'm stretching

If I had to Rank them

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[ayumidah]

Batman vs Superman-- it was ok. Dragged on a bit, and some parts were kinda cringy but I won a digital copy somewhere so I rewatched it last year and it's more enjoyable the second time around. Wonder Woman's theme made seeing it in theaters totally worth it though.
Suicide Squad-- enjoyed this one. Probably not the most polished of movies but sometimes that's ok.
Wonder Woman-- great movie. One of the few times my little town's theater was pretty much full.

Justice League-- I was a little disappointed by it. It had its moments but I grew up watching the Justice League cartoons and just expected more, I guess. Though maybe, like BvS, I'd like it better with a rewatch.
Aquaman-- fun movie, I liked the visuals a lot. Parts were strange to me-- why some needed equipment to breathe above water and others didn't, for one-- but always enjoyable
Shazam-- easily my favorite. I really need to find the time to watch it again, it always makes me laugh.