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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Oct 4, 2019 21:34:18 GMT -5
I called it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 21:35:11 GMT -5
Not really. One loss doesn't overcome an entire reign. People keep looking at finishes rather than what happened before finishes, even matches for example. People only care about who won rather than if the match itself was dope and Kofi's entire reign feels that way. Yeah it sucks but 1 loss against "World Killer Brock Lesnar" shouldn't be enough for us to discount everything Kofi's done. That's disrespecting all he did to get to that point. It's a mark against his reign but shit, the reign stands for itself as does he.
He lost in three seconds. It kinda hurts how you built up a dude just to feed him to Brock. Sorry man that's just me, it taints things to an extent for me. That's what I don't get.
Yall are acting like Brock Lesnar is The Miz when this is Brock Lesnar. The same guy who ended The Streak and squashed John Cena. This is the same guy who chumped Strowman out in his strongest times effortless.
That's just you but we need to remember that this is Brock Lesnar of all people and not some chump.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 4, 2019 21:35:45 GMT -5
Not really. One loss doesn't overcome an entire reign. People keep looking at finishes rather than what happened before finishes, even matches for example. People only care about who won rather than if the match itself was dope and Kofi's entire reign feels that way. Yeah it sucks but 1 loss against "World Killer Brock Lesnar" shouldn't be enough for us to discount everything Kofi's done. That's disrespecting all he did to get to that point. It's a mark against his reign but shit, the reign stands for itself as does he.
It really does, though. His entire mantra was "fighting champion" who will stand up for anything and keep going. They could have booked it like Ziggler/Del Rio or some shit where he just keeps getting up until Brock finally downs him. He'd still have been a fighting champion that way, but he wasn't. He lost in 3 seconds, then they genuinely didn't mention him one time in the remaining 5 minutes of the show. He was nothing. This. Right here. And what was the build for Kofi vs Brock? Kofi getting laid out by Brock Kofi may have had a few ra ra rally promos in response, but in the end, this "Fighting Champion" ride he had for months where he was booked as a determined go getter who would never back down and always dig deep, lost to one F-5 and was then completely glossed over for Vince's next MMA Fetish Sorry if fans feel a bit scorned due to that, because it really does feel like it was all for nothing when WWE presents it that way. It's just "Right back to Brock". And it sucks.
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Post by FinalGwen on Oct 4, 2019 21:35:58 GMT -5
Bravo, WWE. Nothing says you're ready for a new era of competition like taking your most prestigous title back off a beloved fan favourite and handing it back to a guy who hasn't had a good match since Wrestlemania was still in its teens.
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Post by CH Punk on Oct 4, 2019 21:36:11 GMT -5
Gonna be interesting to see the fan response to this in the next couple of weeks. 18 seconds at Mania 28 had a significant impact, but who knows if the same fan passion is there for Kofi like it was for Bryan. While a fan revolt within the product is still possible, wouldn't it be easier and more effective for most people just to switch to AEW?
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Post by greyfmdan on Oct 4, 2019 21:36:40 GMT -5
So, I wonder if Cody has been on the phone with Turner execs about that second show yet. Outside of playoff/tourney weeks, I don’t think TBS has anything locking up Friday nights. I doubt it'll be anything other than a 'Road To' recap for those who don't follow the channel on YouTube. Yeah, I know about the rumored recap show. I was being a wise guy. But I imagine that (purely hypothetically) if they’d had a Friday 9-11 live show tonight, this might have been a “finger poke of doom”/“butts in the seats” moment. I know a 2nd live AEW show, if it ever happens, is a long ways off—but I imagine the thought has crossed their minds over the last half hour or so.
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Post by Tenshigure on Oct 4, 2019 21:37:01 GMT -5
They didn't even mention Kofi's name for the last 7 minutes of the broadcast, he straight up vanished off TV. they aren't going to forget about him. They'll be a redemption story arc. I wish I had that kind of optimism when it comes to WWE booking, but precedence has really given me doubt on anything happening remotely close to 'redemption'. He won't be the one to take on Lesnar, and he very likely won't be traded off to Raw either because New Day is their cash cow and Fox will pay for it. More than likely he'll end up tumbling down the card to fight for the IC title held by... *looks it up* Nakamura, while Cain and Rey go Lesnar hunting.
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Post by Facetious on Oct 4, 2019 21:37:03 GMT -5
Back to winning tag titles? They've already moved onto the next feud for Brock. But they haven’t set anything for any of New Day. Maybe this is the start of moving Big E up the ladder to avenge Kofi or Xavier doing something. I’m just saying that the world is not ending because Kofi lost. I mean shit, next week they’re moving up and locking down the rosters so we have no clue what is going to happen. It's hard to have faith when this company has the track record it does. Based on that, I have zero faith
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 4, 2019 21:38:46 GMT -5
He lost in three seconds. It kinda hurts how you built up a dude just to feed him to Brock. Sorry man that's just me, it taints things to an extent for me. That's what I don't get.
Yall are acting like Brock Lesnar is The Miz when this is Brock Lesnar. The same guy who ended The Streak and squashed John Cena. This is the same guy who chumped Strowman out in his strongest times effortless.
That's just you but we need to remember that this is Brock Lesnar of all people and not some chump.
It was HOW it was presented, if Kofi had lost to Brock, like after a MATCH, even something where Kofi fights to stay in it, plays it smart, then I wouldn't be this pissed. Kofi literally LEAPT into the F-5 and died. How am I supposed to be ok with that after months of the dude being a champion who was played upon for being smart, determined, and a crafty veteran? On top of that, Kofi's loss isn't even allowed to be digested, he is shoved off of TV for Vince's new MMA guy, Cain Velasquez is a name, yes, but he has never been on WWE TV before, and is now suddenly in line for a title match? Kofi can't even let the loss hit him? The fans can't let the loss hit them? Kofi's just... aftermath for CAIN VELASQUEZ after all those months of believing in him, he just flames out in three seconds and is a ghost. WWE could have done this a million different ways, imo they did it the worst way they could have ever done it outside of Brock pissing on Kofi's unconscious body after pinning his ass.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 21:39:08 GMT -5
Kofi will be shuffled back down the card and feud with Nakamura for the IC title probably. I don’t understand why Brock vs Cain needs to have the title involved though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 21:39:52 GMT -5
It really does, though. His entire mantra was "fighting champion" who will stand up for anything and keep going. They could have booked it like Ziggler/Del Rio or some shit where he just keeps getting up until Brock finally downs him. He'd still have been a fighting champion that way, but he wasn't. He lost in 3 seconds, then they genuinely didn't mention him one time in the remaining 5 minutes of the show. He was nothing. Ziggler/Del Rio were near the same level and this isn't that. We're talking about Brock Lesnar. This is the man who ended the Streak, squashed Prime Cena and made "Braun is OP" Braun look like a baby. Like, it's like people are forgetting who Brock Lesnar is just because Kofi lost quickly. Yeah it sucks but that doesn't discount Kofi. All it does is raise Brock up to levels we've always had a problem with him being and that's really the issue. It's nothing against Kofi but more so on Brock itself and how they book him.
Not mentioning Kofi to end the show doesn't say anything against him either because that's WWE's plan when they bring up new challengers to the champion, they do it all the time. Same thing happened with Reigns beat AJ and then Rollins returned and took over. They never mentioned AJ again but it doesn't mean he was discarded like nothing like everyone assumed. We can pick numerous times where this happened. That's looking into something when there's really no issue there.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Oct 4, 2019 21:40:38 GMT -5
I low key forgot SD was on fox tonight. It seems to me like I avoided stepping in watery dog shit.
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Post by RI Richmark on Oct 4, 2019 21:40:43 GMT -5
Thing is Brock vs Cain doesn't need the title. They could have Cain cost Brock to set up the fued. that's true. But maybe they are building to Cain costing Brock at Crown Jewel? or somewhere else down the line? They neeed layers to a eventual clash (mania I suppose) not just one appearance. Hopefully that's what happens. Still I'm not mad that Kofi lost. I'm just mad that he jobbed out in 3 seconds.
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Post by RI Richmark on Oct 4, 2019 21:41:40 GMT -5
I low key forgot SD was on fox tonight. It seems to me like I avoided stepping in watery dog shit. It was a great show until the end.
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Post by Tenshigure on Oct 4, 2019 21:42:25 GMT -5
Kofi will be shuffled back down the card and feud with Nakamura for the IC title probably. I don’t understand why Brock vs Cain needs to have the title involved though. Cain should've distracted Lesnar to have Kofi hit the Trouble In Paradise and pick up the fluke win. Lesnar wouldn't look any less weak, he'd have a new target in his sights, and Kofi could've moved on with being the champ. REALLY not difficult to book.
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Post by fw91 on Oct 4, 2019 21:42:34 GMT -5
they aren't going to forget about him. They'll be a redemption story arc. I wish I had that kind of optimism when it comes to WWE booking, but precedence has really given me doubt on anything happening remotely close to 'redemption'. He won't be the one to take on Lesnar, and he very likely won't be traded off to Raw either because New Day is their cash cow and Fox will pay for it. More than likely he'll end up tumbling down the card to fight for the IC title held by... *looks it up* Nakamura, while Cain and Rey go Lesnar hunting. It might not be off Lesnar. But I can see Kofi going serious. Maybe it drives a wrench into the New Day? There's intriguing possibilities, but Kofi had too much support this reign that he'll be forever credible.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Oct 4, 2019 21:43:15 GMT -5
I low key forgot SD was on fox tonight. It seems to me like I avoided stepping in watery dog shit. It was a great show until the end. Isn't that sort of like saying "The car ride to the amusement park was great before we got into a 6 car pile-up"?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 4, 2019 21:43:18 GMT -5
If I had to guess, Kofi will now go back to solely New Day stuff.
They can never take away his reign though. He'll always be a former champion.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 4, 2019 21:43:56 GMT -5
Any time WWE does something stupid I might just use this clip...
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Post by fw91 on Oct 4, 2019 21:43:56 GMT -5
I low key forgot SD was on fox tonight. It seems to me like I avoided stepping in watery dog shit. I mean watery dog shit as a comparison to Kofi getting squashed? Yeah. But the show in general was pretty entertaining and wasn't boring, although I do understand people feeling scorned.
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