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Post by eJm on Oct 7, 2019 4:08:00 GMT -5
Think about that.
Like, Firefly Fun House box sold out in 3 hours after SummerSlam, his shirts were top sellers with the most effort put into them, they were some of the most-watched stuff on YouTube and talked about across social media (which they love)...
And they thought this was the right approach for it.
I'm not saying Bray was going to be a massive star or the next big thing or we were going to be seeing movies starring Bray Wyatt in the next few years with Vince seething that another guy went to Hollywood and didn't need him anymore. But if they figured this was a good idea to someone who was actually getting fan interest...what hope does anyone else have?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 7, 2019 4:19:24 GMT -5
The crazy thing is, all this was ostensibly to protect both guys from being pinned to a mat for three seconds. That’s it. That’s what you’ve jeopardised your fresh new character for, you’ve neutered your world champion’s finisher for, you’ve atomised the credibility of a featured match concept for... Three seconds on a mat, because in WWE, that’s a fate worse than death.
Yet AEW are gonna have people losing clean all the time, and nobody will bat an eye.
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Post by eJm on Oct 7, 2019 4:24:46 GMT -5
The crazy thing is, all this was ostensibly to protect both guys from being pinned to a mat for three seconds. That’s it. That’s what you’ve jeopardised your fresh new character for, you’ve neutered your world champion’s finisher for, you’ve atomised the credibility of a featured match concept for... Three seconds on a mat, because in WWE, that’s a fate worse than death. And it was all preventable. You could have just had Corbin/Seth in the Cell and the Fiend interferes after Seth wins. There were a morid of other options here. It feels like in the last few years, they get drunk, book things, get hungover on the Sunday of and realise "OH SHIT, WHAT DO WE DO?! WHY DID WE DO THIS?!" and go on a mad panic on the drive to the arena. |
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Oct 7, 2019 4:35:11 GMT -5
The crazy thing is, all this was ostensibly to protect both guys from being pinned to a mat for three seconds. That’s it. That’s what you’ve jeopardised your fresh new character for, you’ve neutered your world champion’s finisher for, you’ve atomised the credibility of a featured match concept for... Three seconds on a mat, because in WWE, that’s a fate worse than death. Yet AEW are gonna have people losing clean all the time, and nobody will bat an eye. Thing is. You wouldn’t even need to have a pin. Have Bray take everything but keep coming back. Seth runs out if gas and The Fiend destroys him. Destroy Seth in every way possible. Have Bray grab the best, drip it on Seth’s bloodied/destroyed body. Pose standing over girls body and then walk out. Bray grabs a mic. Says “this ends when I want it to. Until then.......run...,” Last image is Bray standing over Seth Storyline continues. No one eats a pin. Established The Fiend as a monster that only cares about inflicting pain. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 4:41:22 GMT -5
Hell, I thought it would have made them both look like shit, but even what I thought was the worst case scenario of the Fiend killing Seth the whole time then losing on a fluke roll-up would be better than what they actually did.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Oct 7, 2019 7:41:53 GMT -5
Not just someone marketable; someone Vince likes. Firefly Funhouse had actual production behind it. Sets, props, graphics. Nobody gets those things anymore. Their segments and promos are all in the locker room or in front of a red curtain and a television showing the logo of the show they're on, but Bray bucked the lazy production process and got everything he needed to fulfill his vision. Bray's always been liked and even his bad booking was somehow paradoxically a sign they liked him and wanted to keep him important. This is them thinking they're doing a good job. It's so depressing.
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Post by KofiMania on Oct 7, 2019 7:50:09 GMT -5
Think about that. Like, Firefly Fun House box sold out in 3 hours after SummerSlam, his shirts were top sellers with the most effort put into them, they were some of the most-watched stuff on YouTube and talked about across social media (which they love)... And they thought this was the right approach for it. I'm not saying Bray was going to be a massive star or the next big thing or we were going to be seeing movies starring Bray Wyatt in the next few years with Vince seething that another guy went to Hollywood and didn't need him anymore. But if they figured this was a good idea to someone who was actually getting fan interest...what hope does anyone else have? I wouldn’t overreact to the ending of the PPV, especially as it was done to protect Bray/the Fiend. Shit ending for sure but his push is not over and he won’t be any less over. |
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Post by eJm on Oct 7, 2019 7:51:03 GMT -5
Think about that. Like, Firefly Fun House box sold out in 3 hours after SummerSlam, his shirts were top sellers with the most effort put into them, they were some of the most-watched stuff on YouTube and talked about across social media (which they love)... And they thought this was the right approach for it. I'm not saying Bray was going to be a massive star or the next big thing or we were going to be seeing movies starring Bray Wyatt in the next few years with Vince seething that another guy went to Hollywood and didn't need him anymore. But if they figured this was a good idea to someone who was actually getting fan interest...what hope does anyone else have? I wouldn’t overreact to the ending of the PPV, especially as it was done to protect Bray/the Fiend. Shit ending for sure but his push is not over and he won’t be any less over. No but impressions like that are important to someone's potential drawing power and it's happened time and time again. Like, it's hard to not overreact a tad when there are so many cases it's happened lately. |
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Oct 7, 2019 7:57:57 GMT -5
They could have just not done the freaking match. They put zero effort into this PPV and the only thing it accomplished was knee-capping the most over and marketable act WWE has had in 5 years.
This show could have been main-evented with the Tornado Tag match and cementing Bryan’s face turn would have sent the fans home happy.
But, nah. Let’s piss off a ton of paying customers AND potential new/lapsed viewers by ending a HiaC match with a non-finish.
HiaC matches continued after Mick Foley almost died *twice*.
And, also, that chairshot to the head should make Seth a heel for life.
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Post by ssdrivin on Oct 7, 2019 7:58:35 GMT -5
I've never been that keen on Bray('s characters), though I suspect that's largely down to WWE's horrendous booking (generic "scary" cult dude, no clear direction, switching lanes all the time, cryptic crap with no payoff, never really going anywhere up the card, and ruining other peoples' angles by being involved in them).
But I did watch SummerSlam, and I did think Firefly Funhouse was actually a really cool thing. It actually made me realise they really can do neat, different, attention-grabbing, creative stuff (even if it's largely Bray's idea, they still have to help him execute it on TV). It proves they still have the capability, the resources, hell, even the creative talent, still hidden somewhere inside the company. But it's all for nothing if they just keep kneecapping every good thing they start, which is a shame.
I don't want to dislike Bray, clearly he's good at this stuff, but yeah, if they can't keep a guy with that much drive, that much creativity, that much backstage support on track, what hope for anybody else?
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