Is The Fiend (close to) being ruined?

[Jeff Mangum PI]

First we have him not only losing at HIAC but losing in the dumbest way possible that made him look like a jabroni who needed a ref’s help to survive Seth Rollins. Then Seth rolls up in his shit and burns down the Firefly Funhouse, something the fans loved a lot about Bray. And then he’s booked AGAIN against Seth in Crown Jewel in a match he’s most likely gonna lose again in some type of f***-finish.

Bray JUST got back to being mega-over again after years of being handled disastrously and they’re doing it again to him! I am just reading into all this too quickly or is The Fiend already close to be McMahon’d?

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

Ruined? No.

But he could be so much more than he is, and they just don't want him to get too big.

[Deleted]

He's not ruined, he's still very popular with fans. He just needs to get away from Seth.

[domrep]

It was done the moment they decided to put him on TV every week. That's WWE in a nutshell, they run things that are popular into the ground.

[Deleted]

Not in the moment, but if the Fun House is truly gone and he starts appearing more often that'll do it.

[Bub (BLM)]

No, but he's close to becoming just another of Bray Wyatt's botched angles.

[fw91]

Someone posted in somewhere else, but I’d have him and the funhouse gang in construction gear rebuilding the house (in song and dance of course) and forgive Seth by saying everyone gets angry sometimes! Especially HIM.

[Deleted]

He needs to tear Seth apart at Crown Jewel, just, absolutely murder him.

Fitting that it would take place in SA

[Deleted]

He is ruined but not to the point where it cannot be rehabed.

I said it when it wss happening the most damaging thing they did was making him TOO powerful....he was taking shots and getting up from things that make it impossible for anyone to feaseably beat him without literally killing him.

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Will Seth Rollins ruin the The Fiend gimmick?

[Shark]

Fact is, this character never had legs to begin with. He only worked in small doses. The Funhouse segments are nice, but not really something to base an entire feud on. Everything would be pretaped with virtually nothing happening for the live crowd. The matches also have to be kept really really short. It can work for small feuds, but something like this, for the world title, it wouldn't. The more you show Bray and the Fiend, because you'd just need to, the character would be over exposed. It's ironic because fans wanted the Fiend to be right in the title picture, but it was far far too soon to do it. Really, I think we're just seeing what would have happened if they waited for Mania season to do this. The Fiend is fine for special once in a while appearances, but as a sustained character, it had no sustainability.

[realist]

Oct 15, 2019 15:26:48 GMT -5 Shark said:

Fact is, this character never had legs to begin with. He only worked in small doses. The Funhouse segments are nice, but not really something to base an entire feud on. Everything would be pretaped with virtually nothing happening for the live crowd. The matches also have to be kept really really short. It can work for small feuds, but something like this, for the world title, it wouldn't. The more you show Bray and the Fiend, because you'd just need to, the character would be over exposed. It's ironic because fans wanted the Fiend to be right in the title picture, but it was far far too soon to do it. Really, I think we're just seeing what would have happened if they waited for Mania season to do this. The Fiend is fine for special once in a while appearances, but as a sustained character, it had no sustainability.

Glenn Jacobs took an even less sustainable character and got a 22 year run out of it. Of course, they had good writers back then....

[domrep]

Oct 15, 2019 15:26:48 GMT -5 Shark said:

Fact is, this character never had legs to begin with. He only worked in small doses. The Funhouse segments are nice, but not really something to base an entire feud on. Everything would be pretaped with virtually nothing happening for the live crowd. The matches also have to be kept really really short. It can work for small feuds, but something like this, for the world title, it wouldn't. The more you show Bray and the Fiend, because you'd just need to, the character would be over exposed. It's ironic because fans wanted the Fiend to be right in the title picture, but it was far far too soon to do it. Really, I think we're just seeing what would have happened if they waited for Mania season to do this. The Fiend is fine for special once in a while appearances, but as a sustained character, it had no sustainability.

Putting him in the title picture is what got us to this mess in the first place. The stuff up through the match with Finn was perfect, they nailed it. Then they saw how popular it was and decided to give us more, which is the exact opposite of what they should have been doing. Twice the amount of Firefly segments on one show, him taking over the RAW credits, him appearing on both RAW and SD. He got overexposed.

[The Kevstaaa]

He isn't ruined but it isn't going very well.

[Bo Rida]

No but the aura/promise has gone. How they managed to lose that so quickly is amazing.

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

I'm surprised at some of the responses in this thread. Guy just got moved to the most prominent show on a broadcast network and he's still the most popular character on TV. Far from ruined. I think they're still handling him with more care than most folks. HIAC was the first misstep they've made so far.

[r.]

WWE is the kind of company that would get a solid gold bar as a gift and then sells that bar to a one-eyed merchant for a bag of three magic beans that will grow into a stalk and lead you to a sky fortress of diamonds.

Only the bag is a transparent Ziploc bag and you can see it's just two M&M's and a dry dog turd nugget, but they still do it anyway because WWE is incredibly, amazingly, horribly, astoundingly stupid.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Oct 15, 2019 16:19:03 GMT -5 r. said:

WWE is the kind of company that would get a solid gold bar as a gift and then sells that bar to a one-eyed merchant for a bag of three magic beans that will grow into a stalk and lead you to a sky fortress of diamonds.

Wasn’t that the scam Jeff Jarrett was running?

[Toilet Paper Roll]

He’s not going to leave Saudi Arabia as champ which means he’s going to either lose or something idiotic is going to happen.

They pushed him in his HIAC match as basically unkillable so something ridiculous and embarrassing is going to happen.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Pretty sure magic is illegal there. They better watch what wacky shit they decide to have Bray do.