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Post by Dub H on Nov 15, 2019 19:56:14 GMT -5
I think NWA made a huge mistake by not firing Corny. He's a ticking timebomb. It is only a matter of when not if he says something which gets them a metric ton of bad press if not sued somehow for libel and/or slander. I saw someone ask "When is NWA getting a TV Deal?" And I can see Cornette being a big no-no for any reputable TV Company.
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Post by Celgress on Nov 15, 2019 20:01:43 GMT -5
I think NWA made a huge mistake by not firing Corny. He's a ticking timebomb. It is only a matter of when not if he says something which gets them a metric ton of bad press if not sued somehow for libel and/or slander. I saw someone ask "When is NWA getting a TV Deal?" And I can see Cornette being a big no-no for any reputable TV Company. Yup, especially if they do a quick search and see all the vulgarity laden and politically incorrect (to put it very mildly) Internet beefs the guy has been involved with as of late. TV Companies are very averse to bad press these days.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 15, 2019 20:52:26 GMT -5
From episode 303: "I don't understand the Asian school girl fetish with the 98-pound champion pro wrestling being Riho-diculous and the legendary Emi Sakura [...] she looked like Margaret Cho. [...] They come up with a discount Margaret Cho that nobody's ever heard of because she's a legend for training all these other girls that nobody's ever heard of, except Kenny Olivier, who has an Asian schoolgirl fetish." From episode 304: "Because Kenny Olivier has a Japanese school girl anime fetish, we've all got to suffer." I mean I know some people would argue "context" but Jesus, Cornette. Even if you're laughing saying this shit, that still isn't cool The fact you repeat the line like its genius is just ......man idek anymore. I haven't listened to Cornette in years and yeah these f***ing threw me. Like he's always repeated lines with people, but he's become so f***ing gross of late that he's just repeating these things like they're racist mantras, it's really f***ed up. People went on about context and asked for real quotes but in uncovering them, honestly it just exposes that he's even goddamn worse than people thought, because I guess these lines only get brought up the first time he says them, since by the second time they don't have any shock value. But he's harping on these over and over, and it doesn't make it seem more okay or more like a joke, it makes it seem more f***ed up and more indefensible.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 15, 2019 20:56:24 GMT -5
I mean I know some people would argue "context" but Jesus, Cornette. Even if you're laughing saying this shit, that still isn't cool The fact you repeat the line like its genius is just ......man idek anymore. I haven't listened to Cornette in years and yeah these f***ing threw me. Like he's always repeated lines with people, but he's become so f***ing gross of late that he's just repeating these things like they're racist mantras, it's really f***ed up. People went on about context and asked for real quotes but in uncovering them, honestly it just exposes that he's even goddamn worse than people thought, because I guess these lines only get brought up the first time he says them, since by the second time they don't have any shock value. But he's harping on these over and over, and it doesn't make it seem more okay or more like a joke, it makes it seem more f***ed up and more indefensible. Yea, so like for the people that say if you don't listen how can you pass judgment, well please explain this too me in context because holy shit does that look bad on screen and no real way you can defend it without him saying wink wink everytime he opens his mouth This isn't shock value and this isn't comedy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 21:01:06 GMT -5
So, he's just another old racist then. From what I had heard it seemed he wasn't very high on asian women, and goddamn, that seems to be true.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 15, 2019 21:06:52 GMT -5
I haven't listened to Cornette in years and yeah these f***ing threw me. Like he's always repeated lines with people, but he's become so f***ing gross of late that he's just repeating these things like they're racist mantras, it's really f***ed up. People went on about context and asked for real quotes but in uncovering them, honestly it just exposes that he's even goddamn worse than people thought, because I guess these lines only get brought up the first time he says them, since by the second time they don't have any shock value. But he's harping on these over and over, and it doesn't make it seem more okay or more like a joke, it makes it seem more f***ed up and more indefensible. Yea, so like for the people that say if you don't listen how can you pass judgment, well please explain this too me in context because holy shit does that look bad on screen and no real way you can defend it without him saying wink wink everytime he opens his mouth This isn't shock value and this isn't comedy When people ask for a source and exact quote but then blow you off when you give it to them.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 15, 2019 21:15:38 GMT -5
I am shocked that the man who booked the Gangstas with a gimmick where they said they only needed a two-count on pins to win because of affirmative action and still defends it decades later on the grounds that it got heat with his hillbilly audience is, in fact, racist.
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 15, 2019 23:11:58 GMT -5
So Jim Cornette is a dumb, out of touch racist.
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Post by cjh on Nov 16, 2019 0:06:28 GMT -5
I am shocked that the man who booked the Gangstas with a gimmick where they said they only needed a two-count on pins to win because of affirmative action and still defends it decades later on the grounds that it got heat with his hillbilly audience is, in fact, racist. The "Gangstas can win on a 2-count" thing was just a joke either Bruce Mitchell or Wade Keller made in the Torch. It didn't actually happen in a SMW match.
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Post by madness50 on Nov 16, 2019 3:03:02 GMT -5
I’ve been listening to Cornette’s podcasts for a while now and I am struggling to continue to listen after the past few months. His shtick has gotten increasingly negative and Jim rarely ever now has anything positive to say about anything. I know that is his “gimmick”, but it’s very tiresome and dull at this point in my opinion. Also, I think his criticism of the Japanese female wrestlers in AEW is very insulting and ignorant.
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Post by madness50 on Nov 16, 2019 3:05:29 GMT -5
Just seeing on Reddit some comments made by Cornette about Justin Roberts on his latest podcast. Saying "Roberts looks like he ought to be registered somewhere to be around children" Even by Cornettes standards, what he's said about Justin Roberts may be a new low and possibly grounds for legal action I don't know. Just an utterly bizarre thing to say. Jeez, that’s an awful thing to say about Justin. Brian needs to start editing the shows at this point, because that’s a very stupid thing and unfunny thing to say.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Nov 16, 2019 3:59:14 GMT -5
So, he's just another old racist then. From what I had heard it seemed he wasn't very high on asian women, and goddamn, that seems to be true. He seems to really like Gail Kim. Kind of weird to him go from shitting on almost everyone woman, and yet refer to her as f***ing hot several times
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Post by Cyno on Nov 16, 2019 12:41:50 GMT -5
Probably because Gail Kim is Canadian-American, so she doesn't check a lot of the xenophobic boxes for Cornette. Every racist also has examples of "the good ones" from people they're racist against.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Nov 16, 2019 13:25:57 GMT -5
Dude spent too much time in the south. Like hills have eyes south. Like lobster kid south. Like momma and daddy were brother and mother type of south Man, we never got to see that Strange Kentucky People video that Jericho hyped up in his autobiography. That videos doesn't exist. I started tape trading in the mid 90s and know lots of long time tape traders. No one had ever heard of that tape until Jericho's book. The same book where Chris claims it was a tape trading hit.
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Post by Celgress on Nov 16, 2019 13:55:53 GMT -5
So Jim Cornette is a dumb, out of touch racist. Don't forget and a homophobe, a transphobe and (at times) a sexist who expounds horrendous physical violence and even murder/suicide against those who disagree with him or that he hates. But it's all in good fun.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Nov 16, 2019 14:30:53 GMT -5
Just seeing on Reddit some comments made by Cornette about Justin Roberts on his latest podcast. Saying "Roberts looks like he ought to be registered somewhere to be around children" Even by Cornettes standards, what he's said about Justin Roberts may be a new low and possibly grounds for legal action I don't know. Just an utterly bizarre thing to say. Jeez, that’s an awful thing to say about Justin. Brian needs to start editing the shows at this point, because that’s a very stupid thing and unfunny thing to say. I don't follow Brian on Twitter, but I do see him retweeted some, and I don't think anyone should have hope of him doing anything.
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Post by realist on Nov 16, 2019 18:28:50 GMT -5
I still enjoy listening to him talk old school wrestling. But, sadly, I think he has become a shock jock. I used to think of him as the Southern version of Paul Heyman. Now, he's the Southern version of Vince Russo.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Nov 17, 2019 1:26:49 GMT -5
No, it's absolutely not "bullshit." You can like or dislike the fact, but it doesn't change that it is indeed a fact. I did no editorializing one way or the other on whether or not any of that was good (or bad). But ethnicities as a gimmick has long been a thing across any and all forms of pro wrestling across all countries. Being an ethnicity is not a gimmick. Especially in 2019 You are very much not understanding what is being said. For decades - DECADES - most territories treated being black as the gimmick of most African-American workers. That's why there was rarely more than one black face and/or one black heel on their roster. Is/Was it racist? You bet your ass it was and is. But the absolute fact is that it was how wrestlers of color were treated for literally decades. Promotions didn't bother with giving them gimmicks, because to the promoters, that WAS their gimmick.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Nov 17, 2019 9:36:13 GMT -5
Jim Cornette never at a loss for words
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Nov 17, 2019 17:32:02 GMT -5
Wow just wow, what a vile thing to say. Every time I think current Corny can't sink any lower he surprises me. Another thing I find very interesting how many of Corny's go-to insults are either homophobic, transphobic or racist yet he claims he isn't a homophobe, transphobe or racist rather he is ignorant of their deeper meanings, odd how that works huh? Also, I'm rapidly losing respect for Brian Lass (sp?) with each podcast episode as he sits there unwilling or unable to call Corny out on his verbal bs. The guy is becoming as big a douchebag as Corny by omission. Oh I totally agree, especially about Brian Last. You can tell he realises "oh shit, that was over the line" but he daren't actually call Cornette out. Utterly spineless and he's a moron for not editing it out. I dunno, maybe this will blow over but if Justin Roberts is a litigious guy then I can't see how Cornette gets away with it. You can't just accuse someone of being a pedophile with no basis whatsoever, it's bizarre that he thinks something like that is ok to say. Even Elon Musk is facing legal repercussions for that same sort of thing.
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