cjh
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Post by cjh on Nov 13, 2019 12:48:41 GMT -5
Yes, but not a 'good' one. One of the kind of channels that TNAwere circulating around prior to AXS. AXS really isn't much better. It's the second smallest channel Impact has been on after Pursuit. I could watch Impact when it was on DA and Pop, but I don't get AXS.
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efarns
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Post by efarns on Nov 13, 2019 13:07:25 GMT -5
They're holding steady so far at about 225,000 views per episode. What do you think that means for television?
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Ultimo Gallos
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Nov 13, 2019 13:56:19 GMT -5
Yes, but not a 'good' one. One of the kind of channels that TNAwere circulating around prior to AXS. AXS really isn't much better. It's the second smallest channel Impact has been on after Pursuit. I could watch Impact when it was on DA and Pop, but I don't get AXS. One thing AXS has over DA,pop and Pursuit is AXS is on most of the streaming cable replacement services. Like Sling,Philo,ETC. With more and more people dropping cable for streaming AXS has a bigger presence than you would think.
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Post by octopus on Nov 13, 2019 14:34:26 GMT -5
Which funny because before the whole thing with ROH, they asked Impact to work with them. Impact side no because the edgier direction they're going in would fly in the face of what the NWA are trying to do. And then they signed Willie Mack, Corgan said he tried to sue, but thats a lie. I can't watch the NWA with that scumbag Cornette on commentary either. Anthem weren't the ones who f***ed over Corgan. They tried to f*** over Corgan, but he was able to get his money back from them because they realized it wasn't worth continuing the whole drama. They're the ones who made him sign the NDA. No they didn't, Anthem paid him the $2million he was owed by Dixie. Read up on the facts.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Nov 13, 2019 15:06:19 GMT -5
They tried to f*** over Corgan, but he was able to get his money back from them because they realized it wasn't worth continuing the whole drama. They're the ones who made him sign the NDA. No they didn't, Anthem paid him the $2million he was owed by Dixie. Read up on the facts. They paid him after the lawsuit was settled because Corgan realized it was worth it to cut his losses. I can't find the interview where he says this (plus hints at an NDA) but it's out there.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Nov 13, 2019 20:42:23 GMT -5
I really love it. It tells a story, it's not too long. Reminds me of WCW Saturday night. Just no nonsense wrestling that focuses on storytelling. Would love to see this on a channel with larger distribution. How can you get larger distribution than a free show on YouTube that is accessible to everyone in the entire world? Clearly not what i meant, but if you want to be right on the internet via a technicality, you win man.
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Post by octopus on Nov 13, 2019 22:00:42 GMT -5
No they didn't, Anthem paid him the $2million he was owed by Dixie. Read up on the facts. They paid him after the lawsuit was settled because Corgan realized it was worth it to cut his losses. I can't find the interview where he says this (plus hints at an NDA) but it's out there. If so that is a lie from Corgan (he really isn't good at this legal stuff, he tried to sue Impact for them signing Willie Mack). They paid him the $2.5million owed to him which in turn gave Anthem the company. If Billy signed an NDA, he wouldn't even mention there was an NDA. Corgan lost the motion because you can't give out equity loans in the state of TN.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 0:37:23 GMT -5
How can you get larger distribution than a free show on YouTube that is accessible to everyone in the entire world? Clearly not what i meant, but if you want to be right on the internet via a technicality, you win man. - Clearly not what you meant? Apparently it was not clear, at least not to me. You said you wanted the show to have larger distribution. I ASKED LEGiTIMATELY what a larger distribution than YouTube would be. - If I want to be right on the internet? I didn't even know I was disagreeing with you about anything. - Via a technicality? What technicality might I ask? - What do I win? I didn't know this was an argument or contest.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 14, 2019 4:26:46 GMT -5
They paid him after the lawsuit was settled because Corgan realized it was worth it to cut his losses. I can't find the interview where he says this (plus hints at an NDA) but it's out there. If so that is a lie from Corgan (he really isn't good at this legal stuff, he tried to sue Impact for them signing Willie Mack). They paid him the $2.5million owed to him which in turn gave Anthem the company. If Billy signed an NDA, he wouldn't even mention there was an NDA. Corgan lost the motion because you can't give out equity loans in the state of TN. He was threatening to sue them again after the court case because they were dragging their feet on paying him. Past that, Corgan did throw around some less than subtle remarks in interviews with Meltzer and Johnson implying that he was under a non-disparagement agreement (different kind of NDA) as a condition of receiving the money in the end. Do you have some sort of insider information to be certain he was lying about all this publicly?
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BulldawgTGR
AC Slater
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Post by BulldawgTGR on Nov 14, 2019 19:22:15 GMT -5
You never know,I do my weekly binge of AEW, ROH, NXT, & Impact but Powerrr is the best feeling in the world. Just wish they'd include each wrestler with a win or storyline in the intro video each week. *Dokken - Into the Fire*
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Nov 14, 2019 19:23:59 GMT -5
How about the WWE network?
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Nov 14, 2019 19:30:48 GMT -5
I doubt it. Even if AEW continues doing good numbers, I think there are a lot of indie promotions perceived as cooler who would get the offer first if a network wanted to take a shot on pro wrestling.
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Post by octopus on Nov 15, 2019 2:17:01 GMT -5
If so that is a lie from Corgan (he really isn't good at this legal stuff, he tried to sue Impact for them signing Willie Mack). They paid him the $2.5million owed to him which in turn gave Anthem the company. If Billy signed an NDA, he wouldn't even mention there was an NDA. Corgan lost the motion because you can't give out equity loans in the state of TN. He was threatening to sue them again after the court case because they were dragging their feet on paying him. Past that, Corgan did throw around some less than subtle remarks in interviews with Meltzer and Johnson implying that he was under a non-disparagement agreement (different kind of NDA) as a condition of receiving the money in the end. Do you have some sort of insider information to be certain he was lying about all this publicly? He lost the motion on the only thing he was suing for, there is no need for evidence. He was trying to takeover the company but went about it in completely the wrong way and he f***ed himself by giving out equity loans in the state of Tennessee. He tried to sue them over the signing of Willie Mack saying he was tied to a contract. He then says later in the same interview with Mike Johnson that they had to tell talent what to expect of them in terms of contracts or agreements. This means nothing as they are independent contractors, they can work wherever they want.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 15, 2019 3:27:29 GMT -5
He lost the motion on the only thing he was suing for, there is no need for evidence. He was trying to takeover the company but went about it in completely the wrong way and he f***ed himself by giving out equity loans in the state of Tennessee. He tried to sue them over the signing of Willie Mack saying he was tied to a contract. He then says later in the same interview with Mike Johnson that they had to tell talent what to expect of them in terms of contracts or agreements. This means nothing as they are independent contractors, they can work wherever they want. I'm not sure what you're talking about here; he lost the move for ownership of the company, but the judge still ordered TNA to pay him back, TNA said they would need a day or so, and then dragged their feet on it, and the thing I linked above is Corgan tweeting for several days about how they hadn't paid him back when they said they would. Anything to do with Willie Mack occurred years after all of this and has nothing to do with the money Anthem took their time in paying him. So if you're going to slam down the claim he's a liar then yeah, some evidence of what makes you so certain of that would be big.
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Post by octopus on Nov 15, 2019 9:56:17 GMT -5
He lost the motion on the only thing he was suing for, there is no need for evidence. He was trying to takeover the company but went about it in completely the wrong way and he f***ed himself by giving out equity loans in the state of Tennessee. He tried to sue them over the signing of Willie Mack saying he was tied to a contract. He then says later in the same interview with Mike Johnson that they had to tell talent what to expect of them in terms of contracts or agreements. This means nothing as they are independent contractors, they can work wherever they want. I'm not sure what you're talking about here; he lost the move for ownership of the company, but the judge still ordered TNA to pay him back, TNA said they would need a day or so, and then dragged their feet on it, and the thing I linked above is Corgan tweeting for several days about how they hadn't paid him back when they said they would. Anything to do with Willie Mack occurred years after all of this and has nothing to do with the money Anthem took their time in paying him. So if you're going to slam down the claim he's a liar then yeah, some evidence of what makes you so certain of that would be big. www.prowrestlingsheet.com/billy-corgan-loses-fight-control-tna/#.Xc68QFf7SUkFrom 2016. He lost. Plus he couldn't prove the company was insolvent.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 15, 2019 9:57:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you're talking about here; he lost the move for ownership of the company, but the judge still ordered TNA to pay him back, TNA said they would need a day or so, and then dragged their feet on it, and the thing I linked above is Corgan tweeting for several days about how they hadn't paid him back when they said they would. Anything to do with Willie Mack occurred years after all of this and has nothing to do with the money Anthem took their time in paying him. So if you're going to slam down the claim he's a liar then yeah, some evidence of what makes you so certain of that would be big. www.prowrestlingsheet.com/billy-corgan-loses-fight-control-tna/#.Xc68QFf7SUkFrom 2016. He lost. Plus he couldn't prove the company was insolvent. You're not even responding to the things I'm saying at this point.
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dpg
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Post by dpg on Nov 15, 2019 14:41:22 GMT -5
It's gone down from 500k views for the first episode, to 150-200k now. That's with access to Youtube, which anyone can watch. TV channels wouldn't take that as a ratings indicator. I can see NWA doing ok for now, but, what is their long game? They need a TV deal, but what's out there? A small channel would pay little to nothing and involve a large outlay on regular production.
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nisidhe
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 15, 2019 14:47:26 GMT -5
If David McLane can make his GLOW rehash a thing, NWA Powerrr should be a shoe-in for at least a specialty channel, if not some local network affiliates in the old territory markets, say, on Saturdays.
YouTube, however, might be the best spot for them right now, simply because it's got the global reach and they can promote online far more cheaply than through the old ad channels. If they can get a mention on one of the wrestling news channels, so much the better for exposure.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Nov 15, 2019 17:07:56 GMT -5
If David McLane can make his GLOW rehash a thing, NWA Powerrr should be a shoe-in for at least a specialty channel, if not some local network affiliates in the old territory markets, say, on Saturdays. YouTube, however, might be the best spot for them right now, simply because it's got the global reach and they can promote online far more cheaply than through the old ad channels. If they can get a mention on one of the wrestling news channels, so much the better for exposure. I’d say for specialty channels one of the retro channels would be the best fit. Like MeTV. But nah. Horny 30 year old men who watched Mary Ann frolic around on Gilligan’s Island in the 1960s have just become old horny men who want to watch Mary Ann frolic around on Gilligan’s Island. They don’t give a shit about Nick Aldis.
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nisidhe
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 15, 2019 17:34:40 GMT -5
If David McLane can make his GLOW rehash a thing, NWA Powerrr should be a shoe-in for at least a specialty channel, if not some local network affiliates in the old territory markets, say, on Saturdays. YouTube, however, might be the best spot for them right now, simply because it's got the global reach and they can promote online far more cheaply than through the old ad channels. If they can get a mention on one of the wrestling news channels, so much the better for exposure. I’d say for specialty channels one of the retro channels would be the best fit. Like MeTV. But nah. Horny 30 year old men who watched Mary Ann frolic around on Gilligan’s Island in the 1960s have just become old horny men who want to watch Mary Ann frolic around on Gilligan’s Island. They don’t give a shit about Nick Aldis. A _retro_ specialty channel would not be a good fit; but AXS or a channel that likewise offers a lot of "live" events (like AXS does for concerts) would be, and would get a lot of younger Boomers and older Gen-Xers who are becoming grandparents but will still flip to a Fleetwood Mac concert film and may have watched the territories or NWA back in the day. I think NWA is nailing it on the booking side, but they need some appealing characters to draw folks in. Right now it feels like a more earnest Southpaw.
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