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Post by autisticgeordie on Dec 14, 2019 17:22:02 GMT -5
OK, I'm not going to defend that ridiculous main event push that Jeff Jarrett got in TNA in the early to mid 2000s and WCW in the tail end of the 1990s, but, I do think that Jarrett isn't even a bad wrestler, he's had good and entertaining matches, he's had some really funny stuff like when he was MMA Jarrett and putting submission holds on little kids, for example, that was brilliant stuff.
Honestly, I think Jeff's main event push hurt him because, when he's moved down the card into that mid-card to upper-mid-card roll, he's actually quite entertaining, he's not a main event guy, but not everybody needs to be a main event guy.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 14, 2019 17:33:34 GMT -5
He’s great at being a chicken shit heel, but when you try to make him a badass, it fails. Case in point the Aztec warrior phase and his early face run in tna.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Dec 14, 2019 17:34:43 GMT -5
He’s great at being a chicken shit heel, but when you try to make him a badass, it fails. Case in point the Aztec warrior phase and his early face run in tna. Yeah, like, Jeff is a good worker in the ring, but he's always entertaining when he gets to be a slimeball coward who'll take the easy way out or cheat at every opportunity.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Dec 14, 2019 19:28:20 GMT -5
My favorite jeff jarrett thing is when he whips someone into the ropes and slaps on a sleeper hold, he'll yell "HE AIN'T GOIN NOWHERE!!!" and then the guy immediately starts breaking out of it.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 14, 2019 19:39:29 GMT -5
Double J Double M A Jarrett was the best version because it was finally him mocking himself over the idea that he had to be a hardass badass.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 14, 2019 20:08:28 GMT -5
Agreed. Jarrett's a good worker, just not up to the quality of his tippy-top pushes.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 14, 2019 20:17:52 GMT -5
Jarrett was always a solid performer, good in the ring, on the mic too, not an all time great, but a talented guy all the same. He would have gotten a transitional WWF world title reign in the mid 2000s had he stuck with the WWF and not jumped ship every few months. He would have done a better job than JBL in that role.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 14, 2019 21:21:22 GMT -5
I honestly don't think he was too bad a main eventer, he just should never be your THE GUY. He didn't have the sense to know when to get out of the way and give someone else a moment.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 14, 2019 21:39:06 GMT -5
Jarrett was always a solid performer, good in the ring, on the mic too, not an all time great, but a talented guy, all the same. He would have gotten a transitional WWF world title reign in the mid 2000s had he stuck with the WWF and not jumped ship every few months, he would gave done a better job than JBL. I disagree, he pushed himself to that level in tna and it failed.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 14, 2019 22:44:12 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett was a solid career midcarder that could've done alright having flirtations with the main event here and there. I could've seen him getting a "thank you" reign with the WWE or World Heavyweight Championship if he stuck with WWE. Problem is, he became a multiple time WCW Champion during a time when he was one of the only real names WCW had. In turn, that gave him the inflated ego to turn TNA into his vanity project and make the NWA World Heavyweight Championship the Owner's Belt for awhile.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 15, 2019 1:19:07 GMT -5
Jarrett was always a solid performer, good in the ring, on the mic too, not an all time great, but a talented guy, all the same. He would have gotten a transitional WWF world title reign in the mid 2000s had he stuck with the WWF and not jumped ship every few months, he would gave done a better job than JBL. I disagree, he pushed himself to that level in tna and it failed. His reigns were not transitional, he held the NWA belt for over a thousand days over his six reigns. He'd hold it for months on end, lose it, then inevitably win it back in spite of what the audience wanted. Jarrett pushed himself like Hulk Hogan, to the point where it felt like his regaining the belt was an inevitability, rather than being a new main event face's first title feud. That was far beyond any main event push he would have received in the WWE. He'd win the belt in a weaselly way then get stomped by Cena or Batista on the rise.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Dec 15, 2019 8:45:51 GMT -5
I disagree, he pushed himself to that level in tna and it failed. His reigns were not transitional, he held the NWA belt for over a thousand days over his six reigns. He'd hold it for months on end, lose it, then inevitably win it back in spite of what the audience wanted. Jarrett pushed himself like Hulk Hogan, to the point where it felt like his regaining the belt was an inevitability, rather than being a new main event face's first title feud. That was far beyond any main event push he would have received in the WWE. He'd win the belt in a weaselly way then get stomped by Cena or Batista on the rise. It felt more like Triple H 's reign of terror to me.
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Post by doguncle on Dec 15, 2019 10:02:29 GMT -5
Jarrett, had Memphis not folded, would have inherited Lawler's role as lead babyface. As for his WWF roles, I agree that he could have been a transition champion, but he was well-rewarded in his time there.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Dec 15, 2019 10:28:32 GMT -5
I think his connections to Vince Russo also factors in as to how people see him.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 15, 2019 10:51:22 GMT -5
All of my memories of Ain’t I Great Jeff Jarrett are fond and positive. The light up hats, the Fargo strut and specifically that Shawn Michaels match at In Your House. I can’t say the same for the Slap Nuts era, then he just felt forced. The Russo shit he tried to make work both in WCW and TNA didn’t help matters either.
But overall I think he’s quite entertaining when he isn’t trying to play Southern Triple H.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Dec 15, 2019 11:27:49 GMT -5
He was an annoying heel during his first WWF run he got good heat but held the IC title for to long horrible run with that title in 1995
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 15, 2019 12:42:46 GMT -5
He's THE midcarder to me. That's naturally what he was born to be. Unfortunately, he got given power and apparently disagreed.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 15, 2019 13:43:26 GMT -5
I always said people would remember him better if not for his disastrous main event stints. He's one of the last great old school heels who don't even try to be cool.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 15, 2019 14:01:41 GMT -5
Never liked him as a performer and later as a human being
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Post by Andee9001 on Dec 15, 2019 19:21:05 GMT -5
Last year i watched the 4 disc best of his TNA run. After watching it all i came to the conclusion that he was no main eventer. The best matches he had were against AJ and Angle. Everything else was good at best. Nothing wrong with good but nothing that screamed guy you build your company around.
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