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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 12:35:16 GMT -5
Regarding NXT, it was speculated on Wrestling Observer Live yesterday that due to the lack of effect NXT has had on AEW, Vince doesn't care so much now and making NXT look good is not the priority it was back at Survivor Series. If Vince is legit thinking like that in any way.....then people have to start worrieing about Charlotte getting sent down there thinking the intent is to send her down there just to lose. I would not put it past Vince at all even if Meltzer is doing nothing but speculating.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 28, 2020 22:28:41 GMT -5
Per Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, the original plans were for Shayna Baszler and Roman Reigns to win the Royal Rumble matches last night, but when WWE were planning out the card for WrestleMania, they made the decision to change course and go with Charlotte Flair and Drew McIntyre instead. Additionally, while Meltzer did not confirm the current plans for women's matches, he said as of now, the plan for the top three men's matches are Brock Lesnar vs. Drew McIntyre for the WWE Title, The Fiend vs. Roman Reigns for the Universal Title, and Edge vs. Randy Orton. www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/wwes-wrestlemania-card-causes-changes-royal-rumble-winners-302761?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterFiend vs. Reigns just sucks out loud compared to those other two matches. Why are they so determined to make Reigns more than the Sheamus he is?
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Post by auph10imitated on Jan 29, 2020 1:36:51 GMT -5
I just can’t see there being enough space for an NXT women’s title match at Mania, they find it hard making space for the main roster and that’s why TO is so prominent at Mania weekend. Although with NXT now on TV they may be making a conscious effort hence Charlotte vs Rhea. But Rhea has to go over. I hope WWE realise this or it’s absolutely pointless
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 29, 2020 1:59:28 GMT -5
Regarding NXT, it was speculated on Wrestling Observer Live yesterday that due to the lack of effect NXT has had on AEW, Vince doesn't care so much now and making NXT look good is not the priority it was back at Survivor Series. That's a weird take, since we really don't have that good of a read on an NXT-less AEW since they've been competing the entire time, with one episode kind of unopposed.
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Post by eJm on Jan 29, 2020 2:02:49 GMT -5
Regarding NXT, it was speculated on Wrestling Observer Live yesterday that due to the lack of effect NXT has had on AEW, Vince doesn't care so much now and making NXT look good is not the priority it was back at Survivor Series. That's a weird take, since we really don't have that good of a read on an NXT-less AEW since they've been competing the entire time, with one episode kind of unopposed. Also doesn’t really sound like Vince to give up on something just because it only worked once and one other time. If this were ECW and it was on “not watched by anyone because there’s better stuff on” O’Clock, sure, he gave up on that pretty damn quickly post Lashley push but now? They just need to agree what that next step is. And as much as I dig the idea of Charlotte going after Rhea, that would be a bandaid rather than a long term solution.
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Post by gl83 on Jan 29, 2020 2:14:29 GMT -5
Per Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, the original plans were for Shayna Baszler and Roman Reigns to win the Royal Rumble matches last night, but when WWE were planning out the card for WrestleMania, they made the decision to change course and go with Charlotte Flair and Drew McIntyre instead. Additionally, while Meltzer did not confirm the current plans for women's matches, he said as of now, the plan for the top three men's matches are Brock Lesnar vs. Drew McIntyre for the WWE Title, The Fiend vs. Roman Reigns for the Universal Title, and Edge vs. Randy Orton. www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/wwes-wrestlemania-card-causes-changes-royal-rumble-winners-302761?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterI think expectations for Edge/Orton are raised after that great segment. Also, Meltzer is reporting Charlotte/Rhea Ripley as the current plan, which sounds like a smart way to elevate NXT as a third brand. So, even before her injury last week, Io Shirai did not factor into any of their plans for WrestleMania weekend.
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Post by mistery on Jan 29, 2020 10:35:44 GMT -5
Per Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio, the original plans were for Shayna Baszler and Roman Reigns to win the Royal Rumble matches last night, but when WWE were planning out the card for WrestleMania, they made the decision to change course and go with Charlotte Flair and Drew McIntyre instead. Additionally, while Meltzer did not confirm the current plans for women's matches, he said as of now, the plan for the top three men's matches are Brock Lesnar vs. Drew McIntyre for the WWE Title, The Fiend vs. Roman Reigns for the Universal Title, and Edge vs. Randy Orton. www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/wwes-wrestlemania-card-causes-changes-royal-rumble-winners-302761?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitterI think expectations for Edge/Orton are raised after that great segment. Also, Meltzer is reporting Charlotte/Rhea Ripley as the current plan, which sounds like a smart way to elevate NXT as a third brand. So, even before her injury last week, Io Shirai did not factor into any of their plans for WrestleMania weekend. No one ever reported that she was going to 100% be Rhea's challenger. Just that it seemed really likely. And these plans were recently changed, according to Dave last Monday, they made the decision to change the Rumble winners a couple of weeks ago, and Charlotte's case was "well we feel bad for yanking the carpet out from under her so many times" which is...hilarious. That potentially leaves Io in a bad spot when she returns though. She either gets fed to Rhea because there is no chance they'll have Rhea lose the title right after beating Charlotte, or she'll go up against Charlotte. And we all know Charlotte doesn't seem to like cleanly putting over Japanese women.
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Post by eJm on Jan 29, 2020 10:40:02 GMT -5
And these plans were recently changed, according to Dave last Monday, they made the decision to change the Rumble winners a couple of weeks ago, and Charlotte's case was "well we feel bad for yanking the carpet out from under her so many times" which is...hilarious. I always find these things funny myself like with Braun when they didn't want him in another Brock match because he'd lost to him too many times and lost his lustre and it's like "...you put him there in the first place and could have easily not done that since that's literally your job!" Same with Charlotte. If you feel you yanked the carpet from her so many times...don't do it in the first place?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 29, 2020 10:48:42 GMT -5
And these plans were recently changed, according to Dave last Monday, they made the decision to change the Rumble winners a couple of weeks ago, and Charlotte's case was "well we feel bad for yanking the carpet out from under her so many times" which is...hilarious. I always find these things funny myself like with Braun when they didn't want him in another Brock match because he'd lost to him too many times and lost his lustre and it's like "...you put him there in the first place and could have easily not done that since that's literally your job!" Same with Charlotte. If you feel you yanked the carpet from her so many times...don't do it in the first place? That’s the weird thing with Flair, like, she’s had a lot of title reigns, but many of them were merely transitional runs to the other Horsewomen. I did the stat a while back... Seven of the 11 title reigns that Bayley, Lynch and Banks have on the main roster, started by them beating Flair one-on-one.
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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 29, 2020 10:53:11 GMT -5
I always find these things funny myself like with Braun when they didn't want him in another Brock match because he'd lost to him too many times and lost his lustre and it's like "...you put him there in the first place and could have easily not done that since that's literally your job!" Same with Charlotte. If you feel you yanked the carpet from her so many times...don't do it in the first place? That’s the weird thing with Flair, like, she’s had a lot of title reigns, but many of them were merely transitional runs to the other Horsewomen. I did the stat a while back... Seven of the 11 title reigns that Bayley, Lynch and Banks have, started by them beating Flair one-on-one. One interesting factoid is that she’s had a title for less than 50 days combined since WM 34. Fans get caught up on the number and ignore the detail.
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Post by mistery on Jan 29, 2020 11:06:07 GMT -5
That’s the weird thing with Flair, like, she’s had a lot of title reigns, but many of them were merely transitional runs to the other Horsewomen. I did the stat a while back... Seven of the 11 title reigns that Bayley, Lynch and Banks have, started by them beating Flair one-on-one. One interesting factoid is that she’s had a title for less than 50 days combined since WM 34. Fans get caught up on the number and ignore the detail. I think the issue a lot of fans have with Charlotte is that her pushes pretty much always come at the detriment of the non WWE-4HW, her lack of caring about selling for anyone that she doesn't like, and her general bad attitude in interviews. Not to mention the TLC situation with Kairi where she handled the entire situation and its aftermath incredibly poorly. Charlotte hasn't put over a non WWE-4HW clean in televised singles action since Backlash 2018. That is ridiculous. Every other member of the WWE 4HW has put someone else over clean in singles action at least once since then.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 29, 2020 11:29:58 GMT -5
So doesn’t Roman just win elimination Chamber now? Why not stick with the original?
Unless they we’re worried he’d get booed
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 29, 2020 11:34:19 GMT -5
So doesn’t Roman just win elimination Chamber now? Why not stick with the original? Unless they we’re worried he’d get booed The benefit here is that a new-ish guy in McIntyre gets the bigger rub by winning the more historically prestigious Rumble match than he would by winning a Chamber match. It may be more gruelling and hard-earned, but is also way less memorable (if one could name every winner of a Chamber match, that’d be a hell of a thing).
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jan 29, 2020 12:03:25 GMT -5
So doesn’t Roman just win elimination Chamber now? Why not stick with the original? Unless they we’re worried he’d get booed The benefit here is that a new-ish guy in McIntyre gets the bigger rub by winning the more historically prestigious Rumble match than he would by winning a Chamber match. It may be more gruelling and hard-earned, but is also way less memorable (if one could name every winner of a Chamber match, that’s be a hell of a thing). And hell, the Chamber itself might not even factor into how Roman fights The Fiend, given the whole “getting revenge on those who hurt Bray” angle.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 29, 2020 12:31:12 GMT -5
So doesn’t Roman just win elimination Chamber now? Why not stick with the original? Unless they we’re worried he’d get booed Not really, there was no point in Roman winning the Rumble if you have a brand new match up ready They are almost making a brand new star in Drew by having him eliminate Lesnar, look strong in the Rumble and actually win the Rumble. It has been a long time since someone new was made from the Rumble
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 29, 2020 12:32:50 GMT -5
The benefit here is that a new-ish guy in McIntyre gets the bigger rub by winning the more historically prestigious Rumble match than he would by winning a Chamber match. It may be more gruelling and hard-earned, but is also way less memorable (if one could name every winner of a Chamber match, that’s be a hell of a thing). And hell, the Chamber itself might not even factor into how Roman fights The Fiend, given the whole “getting revenge on those who hurt Bray” angle. Yea, that feud will happen before Mania as it should I hate that Mania is the reason feuds start, and this doesn't need to be held off until Mania. Start it now. Everyone changes whoever fights The Fiend, so by the time Mania comes around you could potentially have a different Roman whether it be lower hair, different gear etc.... Mania should be the end of that feud, not the beginning
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2020 13:42:42 GMT -5
Charlotte will win NXT title but only defend it either @ RAW or SmackDown.
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