Nr1Humanoid
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Feb 8, 2020 18:40:47 GMT -5
If science and scientists had been allowed to prosper earlier in human history, do you think we would be more advanced now in the technological and human development sense?
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 8, 2020 18:42:47 GMT -5
Eh. Not really. Look how far some people are dragging us back even now. Can only move as fast as the dumbest person.
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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 8, 2020 19:42:22 GMT -5
For the most part they always had been allowed to prosper.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Feb 8, 2020 19:48:48 GMT -5
Pretty sure if you have a significant innovation you’re fin to be rich as hell, and copyright laws are way better now than they’ve ever been.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Feb 8, 2020 21:21:23 GMT -5
Question unclear. How have scientists not been able to prosper? Are there examples OP can post to clarify?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 21:51:32 GMT -5
Question unclear. How have scientists not been able to prosper? Are there examples OP can post to clarify? Well, executing or placing dudes under house arrest for having novel concepts about how the universe is structured.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Feb 8, 2020 22:37:33 GMT -5
Question unclear. How have scientists not been able to prosper? Are there examples OP can post to clarify? Stifling research or limiting funding because people have decided said research offends their particular invisible cloud person.
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El Pollo Guerrera
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Feb 8, 2020 22:38:52 GMT -5
Question unclear. How have scientists not been able to prosper? Are there examples OP can post to clarify? Well, executing or placing dudes under house arrest for having novel concepts about how the universe is structured. So, nothing lately, as in the last 50-100 years?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2020 22:58:30 GMT -5
Well, executing or placing dudes under house arrest for having novel concepts about how the universe is structured. So, nothing lately, as in the last 50-100 years? All the scientists that became refugees, were otherwise politically pushed out of their countries, lost funding for various reasons, etc.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 8, 2020 23:16:13 GMT -5
Well, executing or placing dudes under house arrest for having novel concepts about how the universe is structured. So, nothing lately, as in the last 50-100 years? Alan Turing would beg to differ. Granted, it didn't happen because of his science, but because his being gay overshadowed everything great he did at the time. It took until his apparent suicide after a forced chemical castration to get people to realize "hey that guy was brilliant."
BTW, it wasn't until 2009 where the British government actually apologized for the way they treated him, with Queen Elizabeth II issuing a posthumous pardon in 2013.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 8, 2020 23:34:42 GMT -5
Tough to say.
Part of the issue is technology is no a straight line like people think it is.
It's more of a wave of people discovery things at different times then it becoming lost due to no one being able to replicate... or it no longer being necessary... or openly burned like the Library of Alexandria.
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Post by hassanchop on Feb 9, 2020 0:07:54 GMT -5
Depends on their goals. Some innovate to make life easier, others destroy life. Then there's vanity, people doing it for themselves to achieve status quo. Then there are others just doing it for a paycheck.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 9, 2020 0:54:26 GMT -5
Question unclear. How have scientists not been able to prosper? Are there examples OP can post to clarify? They have a cure for cancer, man, they just won't let us have it, man, because there's no money, man, in a for profit system for a f***ing cancer curing drug, man. Also, my car runs on water. Don't tell anyone......man.
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Post by J. Hova on Feb 9, 2020 6:01:10 GMT -5
I'll tread lightly...
I don't think we'd have flying cars or teleportation by now, but I think if religion as a whole and the Catholic church in particular didn't stifle anything that didn't fit their dogma, we could be 25 - 100 years ahead of where we are now.
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 9, 2020 6:07:38 GMT -5
Tough to say. Part of the issue is technology is no a straight line like people think it is. It's more of a wave of people discovery things at different times then it becoming lost due to no one being able to replicate... or it no longer being necessary... or openly burned like the Library of Alexandria. Correct me if I’m wrong, but schematics fir creating electricity and crude steam engines were among the documents lost when the library was burned, right?
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Post by dav on Feb 9, 2020 6:52:32 GMT -5
I'll tread lightly... I don't think we'd have flying cars or teleportation by now, but I think if religion as a whole and the Catholic church in particular didn't stifle anything that didn't fit their dogma, we could be 25 - 100 years ahead of where we are now. The Catholic Church actually helped preserve knowledge and encouraged education when few other institutions were able to throughout a period in Western European history. Even then, science throughout the world was hardly stymied by them when the Byzantine Empire, states in the Middle East and China, among others, still developed scientific theories and discoveries.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Feb 9, 2020 8:41:43 GMT -5
Tough to say. Part of the issue is technology is no a straight line like people think it is. It's more of a wave of people discovery things at different times then it becoming lost due to no one being able to replicate... or it no longer being necessary... or openly burned like the Library of Alexandria. And then you have things like the Bronze Age Collapse that basically was a giant ass reset button for the entire Mediterranean region, which was before the collapse probably the most technologically advanced region in the world at the time, and it all just...stopped and vanished. People in the area even forgot how to write, because part of why this whole thing is still such a massive mystery to historians is because there is a vast gap in the written history records after the collapse before new written records were discovered.
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El Pollo Guerrera
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Feb 9, 2020 13:08:11 GMT -5
I really don't know the answer but I do know this... millions and millions of people carry with them in their hands a portable computer a hundred times more powerful than computers twenty years ago that have access to the knowledge of the world and they use them to argue whether or not a hot dog is a sandwich.
The science may be more advanced but the people? I'm gonna say not so much.
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Post by Gremlin on Feb 9, 2020 13:43:02 GMT -5
I'll tread lightly... I don't think we'd have flying cars or teleportation by now, but I think if religion as a whole and the Catholic church in particular didn't stifle anything that didn't fit their dogma, we could be 25 - 100 years ahead of where we are now. The Catholic Church actually helped preserve knowledge and encouraged education when few other institutions were able to throughout a period in Western European history. Even then, science throughout the world was hardly stymied by them when the Byzantine Empire, states in the Middle East and China, among others, still developed scientific theories and discoveries. They certainly did Galileo dirty.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 9, 2020 14:38:03 GMT -5
Pretty sure if you have a significant innovation you’re fin to be rich as hell, and copyright laws are way better now than they’ve ever been. If it doesn't challenge the people already making money. Think how much oil companies buried about climate science and fight against renewable energy. If it'd had more support and funding we'd probably be a lot further down the road.
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