Vince McMahon Doubts Possible Mania Match

[Susan "Poison" Candy]

As previously noted, Vince McMahon has backed away from at least two of Paul Heyman-backed wrestlers – Ricochet and Cedric Alexander.

Now it looks like McMahon is uncertain about the push to turn Shayna Baszler into one of the top heels on the Raw brand.

In the latest Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Dave Meltzer noted that there is uncertainty on McMahon’s feelings about Shayna Baszler, specifically the match she had with Kairi Sane on this week’s episode of Monday Night Raw. Meltzer noted that McMahon felt that the Baszler vs. Sane match did not get the desired reaction and he felt that Baszler was not coming off like a WrestleMania headliner. Baszler is one of the people who is getting a push because of Paul Heyman, as he sees her as someone who can be a monster heel.

Baszler will be in the Women’s Elimination Chamber match on Sunday that will determine the number 1 contender for Becky Lynch’s Raw Women’s Championship at WrestleMania. Baszler vs. Lynch is the scheduled match but if McMahon changes his mind and Baszler does not win on Sunday, then it would be the second time he has changed his mind on her.

Meltzer said that Baszler was the original pick to win the Women’s Royal Rumble match only for McMahon to change it to Charlotte Flair just one week before the show. If you look at who is in the match, Baszler is the most credible woman involved.

Source: Wrestlingnews.co

Can we please get rid of Vince like right now. I don't know how credible this is but it's just time to take the guy out back and Old Yeller his ass.

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I don't know why Paul Heyman is shocked that Vince is yet again meddling intensely with his creative control. It happened years ago, when he was running Smackdown, the new ECW, and it's happening now with "Creative control" of RAW. You'd think he'd know better because it doesn't matter what he thinks or who he says could work, Vince always has the final say and if he doesn't like you, well, you see the results of it.

Dude's a lunatic who doesn't give a shit who he burns in the process to get to his own gain and it's why we have disgruntled employees wanting out and a blossoming alternative scene. And will only continue to.

[A Platypus Rave]

this reads like pure speculation/ let's say vince doesn't like popular wrestlers for clicks story to me.

But I'm not familiar enough with Wrestlingnews.co or any news sites really to know if they are on the "we make bullshit up for clicks" people we banned.

[Dave the Dave]

If Heyman likes you, it’s gonna be an uphill battle with Vince. That’s how it’s always been

[Mister Pigwell]

Comes off real smarkbaity there.

[A Platypus Rave]

Mar 6, 2020 0:42:32 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

Comes off real smarkbaity there.

Yeah, it's got everything.

Vince is the reason for X

these people that are popular or semi-popular? Yeah Vince doesn't like them

Paul Heyman is totally behind these guys that people like...

with possibly a little truth with the Kairi vs. Baszler match getting "boring" chants.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

I'd be really curious who the hell Becky would face if he pulled Shayna from the match.

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It’s fine to change your mind, it’s your company.

But can you do it in a way that doesn’t make them look like a complete jobber?

Adam Page was considered to be the first AEW champion. Then they decided they should probably stick to the plan and go with Jericho. Sure Hangman had some growing pains over the past few months but now he’s one of the hottest acts in the company.

Ricochet? Having the biggest match of your career followed by losing clean to the guy that dropped KENTA on his head. That’s just awful.

[mistery]

I mean people are getting mad about the rumor, but I can understand where Vince is coming from this time.

Shayna's style was never going to get over with the main roster. She's basically a slower, older, and significantly less exciting version of Asuka. The writing was on the wall at Survivor Series when the audience chanted THIS IS BORING at her during that match as well. This match at Wrestlemania is almost certainly Heyman pushing hard for it. Hell, even on the latest RAW during her in ring debut, she got the same chants. Kairi actually got the audience somewhat invested several times, so you can't fault her outside of also being a heel.

Shayna was struggling in NXT as well during her second reign, so her chances of doing well on the main roster with her catch wrestling style was slim to none. I just don't see her ever becoming a big star in WWE, and her style doesn't lend itself well to being one either. I feel like if she loses at Wrestlemania, her ceiling is going to be midcard heel at best.

[theironyuppie]

Not sure if the story is true, but Shayna got put in a tough spot with a heel/heel match, it being 12 min so she couldn’t look dominant, a smark crowd, and working opposite Becky who’s not taking her seriously and doing a fake-stan gimmick.

[Perd]

Vince: “More like Shay-nah!”

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I agree with Vince. Shayna ain’t it.

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I mean, I doubt this match. This looks like an utter disaster of a feud if they actually try to keep at it given Baszler a lot of the time was boring even in NXT and both of her main roster matches have absolutely sucked, plus they already basically shot her monster credibility by having Becky completely shrug her off immediately.

[Dub H]

Mar 6, 2020 0:45:57 GMT -5 A Platypus Rave said:

Mar 6, 2020 0:42:32 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

Comes off real smarkbaity there.

Yeah, it's got everything.

Vince is the reason for X

these people that are popular or semi-popular? Yeah Vince doesn't like them

Paul Heyman is totally behind these guys that people like...

with possibly a little truth with the Kairi vs. Baszler match getting "boring" chants.

To be fair it has been said Heyman is behind (Ricochete,Alistar Black and Cedric) since he started to took over.Nothing new there

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The weird ass biting angle didn’t really do this storyline any favors. Like where do you even go from there?

[The Trashman]

They should have done Rhea vs Becky and Charlotte vs Shayna. It would even be Queen vs Queen.

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I will say Shayna's style is gonna be a love it or hate it sorta deal, it's very methodical and slower paced which not every WWE fan is gonna like, thing is, when you have a guy who isn't watching the product as much as he should especially the NXT callups it's really not good when people are high on someone to push and then the guy in charge is just like "Nah I don't like them" so it feels like months and sometimes years of building someone up just for Vince to knock the tower over.

Even if this particular instance about Shayna isn't true or turns out to be clickbait, that mentality by Vince is absolutely true and we've seen it time and again, and one has to wonder how many more times people are gonna be forced to see it and how many more careers will be thrown into a woodchipper.

[Super Duper Dragunov]

I love Shayna, and I've never minded her ring style, but she ain't clicking.

I think they should scale her back in-ring and transition her to a manager. My favorite parts of her Takeover matches were the promo videos. She always had really good promos with great one-liners in there. Just have her be someone's voice/muscle that can back it up in the ring if they need to, but isn't the main focus.

Like, have her lose to Becky at WM. and then go "find someone" that can beat Becky's ass and take the belt. Build it to Summerslam.

OR since Vince is in charge, run through the entire angle the first 20 minutes the Raw after WM.

[Ryushinku]

I believe it, while at the same time believe Heyman or someone close to him would put these rumours out for best spin and leverage. Wrestling politics, man.

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Liv Mania, problem solved. \o/