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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Apr 13, 2020 20:59:06 GMT -5
Jim Hammond is a way better and more interesting Human Torch than Johnny Storm.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Apr 13, 2020 21:41:03 GMT -5
Marvel needs a Crisis-level event to reboot.
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Post by ERON on Apr 13, 2020 21:55:04 GMT -5
The X-Men have been shit since Chris Claremont left the first time. Every time a new writer comes on board, I give them a few issues to win me back to the franchise, but they never do.
Dan Slott's run on Spider-Man was the best run since before the Clone Saga. J. Michael Straczynski's Spidey run was overrated. Slott's Fantastic Four has been good so far, too.
Geoff Johns' Shazam series may be well-written, as his series usually are, but it's a horrible take on the character.
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Post by Scoops on Apr 13, 2020 23:09:53 GMT -5
Dick Grayson as a agent of spyral was better than Nightwing in every way.
In fact, Nightwing as a character is dull on the basis that all he can do is run in place as no other street level DC character can overtake Batman. As a secret agent Dick finally had a unique corner of the DCU to call his own.
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Post by badkarma on Apr 14, 2020 0:07:08 GMT -5
Revealing that the whole team could be brought back from death via clones, at the end of the first issue of Wildcats, killed that title for me. Regardless of how good the art was, or how cool the characters were, knowing that they could be brought back to life over, and over again, killed any sense of drama in the storytelling.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 14, 2020 1:51:19 GMT -5
I don't like Infinity Gauntlet. I think it has some of the worst and most cynical examples of comic book writing in it.
The way Starlin writes Thanos as this nigh unstoppable being whose only weakness is his own subconscious undermining his will to win feels like some bad fan-fiction-like quality writing. I can only take a story where every single hero gets their asses handed to them the same way so many times before the story begins feeling redundant. Then to top it all off, the story doesn't even really have an end, Gamora gets the gauntlet, loses it cause she's not nearly as cool and awesome as Thanos, and then the latter escape and goes to live on a farm in peace. Maybe if Thanos had the same nuances that he was given in the MCU it might work as an ending, but we're dealing with a selfish nihilist who cares for nothing but himself and Death.
Granted I haven't read the series leading into this story of the one that followed it. But either way I'm not motivated to in the slightest if this is meant to be as good at that arc gets.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Apr 14, 2020 2:11:38 GMT -5
Cyclops was the one of the most interesting X-men, up until late 90s at least.
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Post by thechase on Apr 14, 2020 2:52:34 GMT -5
The Spider-Man Newspaper Strip storylines from 2014 to 2019 were the best the character had been in ages, and not just on an ironic level.
Brian Micheal Bendis' Superman run isn't all that bad, and he's handling the identity reveal better than whatever the hell was in DCYou. In fact, nothing he's done at DC has been outright terrible.
Joshua Williamson is a terrible Flash writer
Superior Spider-Man was a worse storyline than One More Day (ironically, if you count all the stuff that happens with the concept afterwards, both actually have the same ending)
One More Day isn't actually a bad story in execution, the art's incredible, and while the ending is a downer, it's also a bit optimistic (Mary Jane tells Peter Mephisto can't keep them apart forever, and in 2018 she's finally proven right)
Sins Past is the greatest thing to ever happen to Gwen Stacy. It made her genuinely interesting.
Batman Beyond is a lousy future for Batman and should never be considered a canonical possibility.
Harley is better off as Joker's girlfriend
The Clone Saga has a lot more highs than lows, and leads to Spider-Girl, the most believable conclusion to the Spider-Man story Marvel ever put out.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Apr 14, 2020 4:36:33 GMT -5
Venom? Never got the hype. 😕
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 14, 2020 4:46:03 GMT -5
Dick Grayson as a agent of spyral was better than Nightwing in every way. In fact, Nightwing as a character is dull on the basis that all he can do is run in place as no other street level DC character can overtake Batman. As a secret agent Dick finally had a unique corner of the DCU to call his own. Hard disagree. Nightwing stands out plenty from Bruce in that he's much better in a team setting because he doesn't push other people away constantly. That, and him as a Spyral agent wasn't especially unique to me because it just felt like him doing what Roy Harper had already done previously, going from superhero to secret agent.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 14, 2020 4:50:38 GMT -5
Dick Grayson as a agent of spyral was better than Nightwing in every way. In fact, Nightwing as a character is dull on the basis that all he can do is run in place as no other street level DC character can overtake Batman. As a secret agent Dick finally had a unique corner of the DCU to call his own. Hard disagree. Nightwing stands out plenty from Bruce in that he's much better in a team setting because he doesn't push other people away constantly. That, and him as a Spyral agent wasn't especially unique to me because it just felt like him doing what Roy Harper had already done previously, going from superhero to secret agent. Yeah, Superhero Secret Agent isn't that unique... Nightwing being like Batman if he didn't have all of Batman's issues. Also strong disagree on a full on reboot of Marvel... full on reboots generally create more problems than they solve.
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Post by dav on Apr 14, 2020 4:59:02 GMT -5
Cassandra Cain was the best Batgirl and introduced a lot of elements to the Batfamily that could have really done with being explored further before turning her Heel, which was one of the stupidest moves possible.
Azrael was another one who goes unmentioned, but I genuinely like the character and wish he got more spotlight that he does.
I'm going to echo the thoughts about Infinity Gauntlet as before, the idea that Thanos only lost because he self-sabotages just saps all drama away completely.
Grant Morrison's run on X-Men and Batman weren't very good. The fact he inflicted Damian onto the world didn't help matters.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Apr 14, 2020 5:02:16 GMT -5
Jim Lee is great on covers and posters,but he has no storytelling skills.
Batman Hush was total crap. Felt like something a bored 7th grader wrote in study hall. "I'll bring in every villian and make the lead villain someone from Bruce's past that has never been mentioned before!"
DC hasn't had much worth reading since Johns and Lee got power.
Gaiman's Sandman was good until he padded it out thanks to that great royalty deal he got from DC.
Uncanny X-men went to crap around issue 200 and has never recovered.
Grant Morrison is great on stuff he created or b or lower level heroes. But put him on say X-men,Batman or Superman and you get stuff that isn't worth reading.
Jamie Delano's run on Animal Man>Morrison's run on the same title.
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Post by thechase on Apr 14, 2020 6:42:38 GMT -5
Jim Lee is great on covers and posters,but he has no storytelling skills. Batman Hush was total crap. Felt like something a bored 7th grader wrote in study hall. "I'll bring in every villian and make the lead villain someone from Bruce's past that has never been mentioned before!" Very much all the yes. While Hush is a great Bruce and Selina story (right up until the ending, which is thankfully fixed by Dini's Heart of Hush) the Superman issues are great, and the final issue's scenes with The Riddler were interesting, most of it reads like one of those lousy direct-to-video cartoons... ...And then it actually became one.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 14, 2020 6:50:49 GMT -5
The Captain America Civil War film is way better than both the Civil War comic and the sequel comic. It’s far less convoluted and much easier to understand where Steve and Tony are coming from.
I’ve never liked Dark Knight Returns. I realize how influential it is, but it’s not my favorite Batman story and I don’t think it’s the best intro to him.
I think Tom Strong is Alan Moore’s best work. I actually kinda prefer it to Watchmen and Miracleman, good as those are.
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Post by thechase on Apr 14, 2020 6:55:12 GMT -5
The Captain America Civil War film is way better than both the Civil War comic and the sequel comic. That's an unpopular opinion? I thought it was consensus Civil War was probably the worst thing about the Quesada years at Marvel, with Civil War II the ultimate low for Bendis, Captain Marvel, and the company in the 2010s.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 14, 2020 7:01:36 GMT -5
Marvel needs a Crisis-level event to reboot. Correction: the X-Men do. On that subject, Marvels bitch-fit over Grant Morrison actually writing Magneto as a villain is a travesty. I never really bought into the "this mass murdering nutbag is totes a good guy" narrative. And pairing him off with Rogue (whose young enough to be his great granddaugther) is gross.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 14, 2020 7:03:43 GMT -5
Revealing that the whole team could be brought back from death via clones, at the end of the first issue of Wildcats, killed that title for me. Regardless of how good the art was, or how cool the characters were, knowing that they could be brought back to life over, and over again, killed any sense of drama in the storytelling. As far as I'm concerned there was no WILDc.a.t.s before Joe Casey wrote them. Super underrated run and completely unique take on the superhero concept.
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Post by mike1287 on Apr 14, 2020 7:06:52 GMT -5
Batman: The Long Halloween is a bad story with good art. Johnathan Hickman's Avengers run was terrible, and his FF was bad enough I dropped it a third of the way through. I un-ironically love Luke Cage's original costume, and think the character looks dull as dishwater without it. Matt Fraction's Hawkeye run wasn't interesting (though the David Aja art was great) Doing away with the Spider-marriage was the right move.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Apr 14, 2020 7:10:16 GMT -5
The Captain America Civil War film is way better than both the Civil War comic and the sequel comic. That's an unpopular opinion? I thought it was consensus Civil War was probably the worst thing about the Quesada years at Marvel, with Civil War II the ultimate low for Bendis, Captain Marvel, and the company in the 2010s. No, I’ve run into some folks who liked it. To each their own, but it always rubbed me the wrong way. I don’t know what the consensus is on Infinite Crisis either, but on one hand I love the Jimenez artwork and yet I think it’s not very accessible for newcomers unless they go back over a bunch of lore, and Johns makes it kinda too gorey for its own good IMO. The Loeb and McGuiness Batman/Superman books deserve more love. With Sonic comics, I think Ian Flynn and Ken Penders both have positives and negatives as writers. Flynn has a lean focus on action but can get a bit too involved with the fight scenes, and Ken did expand the lore of Knuckles in an ambitious way but his stories often get *too* adult and heavy-handed (the SatAM cartoon knew when to lighten up the mood).
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