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Post by Perfect Timing on Apr 25, 2020 1:52:02 GMT -5
While WCW can claim fame to that botch, what WWE moment could equal such a disaster? something that was supposed to be a big deal, but turned into a joke. Asuka is exempt here.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Apr 25, 2020 2:03:40 GMT -5
The Gooker has gotta be up there.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Apr 25, 2020 2:04:16 GMT -5
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Apr 25, 2020 2:18:23 GMT -5
Hmmm, something that was a failure on all kind of levels and just kind of died a horrible death on TV....I would probably have to go with Fake Razor and Diesel. Talk about being dead from the moment they came out that first time.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Apr 25, 2020 4:44:05 GMT -5
The Brawl for All?
Nathan Jones?
Sin Cara?
Lars Sullivan?
Katie Vick?
Concrete Crypt?
The Higher Power?
What's the criteria for "a big deal?"
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 25, 2020 4:56:35 GMT -5
The Brawl for All? Nathan Jones? Sin Cara? Lars Sullivan? Katie Vick? Concrete Crypt? The Higher Power?
What's the criteria for "a big deal?"Not Lars Sullivan, I can tell you that. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 25, 2020 5:05:37 GMT -5
The Brawl for All? Nathan Jones? Sin Cara? Lars Sullivan? Katie Vick? Concrete Crypt? The Higher Power?
What's the criteria for "a big deal?"Not Lars Sullivan, I can tell you that. Not how he ended up, no, though the rumors they wanted him to have a match with Cena, or otherwise be a big player, before the information came out, imply he would have been a big deal. Then again, it got dashed before we really would have been sure. |
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Post by Perfect Timing on Apr 25, 2020 5:58:44 GMT -5
What's the criteria for "a big deal?"
Like Shockmaster, we were expecting something big.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2020 6:51:30 GMT -5
I think an argument could be made for Fake Kane. They spent months building it up as a huge thing only for the debut to be overshadowed by a stupid wig, they put him over the real Kane on PPV, then immediately afterward they realized, "Oh wait, this is awful," and awkwardly dropped it the next night with zero explanation as to who he was supposed to be exactly.
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Post by XIII on Apr 25, 2020 8:13:12 GMT -5
The invasion led by Shane and Stephanie.
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Apr 25, 2020 8:50:13 GMT -5
What's the criteria for "a big deal?" Like Shockmaster, we were expecting something big.
In hindsight, I don't understand why they went with "The Shockmaster" and then proceeded to set up a stage for him? Although, ironically, his debut was hilariously shocking, why have this grand entrance for a guy who was supposed to "shock" his opponents? I guess fireworks can be startling🤔 |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Apr 25, 2020 9:05:57 GMT -5
Outside of Titus how many of these are huge botches ?
Titus especially was just him coming down to the ring not being Introd as a main event player
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 25, 2020 11:49:19 GMT -5
Are we talking about the concept of The Shockmaster being a joke or the actual botch of him going through the wall?
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Apr 25, 2020 11:56:11 GMT -5
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Post by BRV on Apr 25, 2020 12:15:45 GMT -5
The invasion led by Shane and Stephanie. This has to be the answer. WWF has in its hands the single biggest angle in professional wrestling history, the one angle every wrestling fan has been dying to see since the formation of World Championship Wrestling. It should have been the greatest money-maker the company had ever seen, and they pissed it away in a matter of weeks. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2020 12:19:12 GMT -5
Tensai comes to mind but there wasn't really a single botch moment that ruined him, despite us all looking for one.
In terms of someone being given a bit of a spotlight and then the performer screwing up I'd say the Genesis of McGillicutty.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 25, 2020 12:19:43 GMT -5
I don't know, because it was his debut just before a major PPV main event. I can't remember a WWE debut botching as badly.
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Post by H-Virus on Apr 25, 2020 12:31:10 GMT -5
I'm gonna say probably nothing, though the Gobbledy Gooker comes closest.
The thing about the Shockmaster isn't just that he fell flat on his arse on his debut after being touted as this big game-changing surprise, it's that even if he HADN'T fallen flat on his arse he still would have been dead on arrival anyway. I mean, it was Fred Ottman wearing a glittery stormtrooper helmet with Ole Anderson speaking for him in his best Black Scorpion voice. Even if the debut had gone off without a hitch, people still wouldn't have been able to take him seriously.
But I can't think of anyone who completely shot themselves in the foot on their first appearance the way Ottman did. The Gooker did exactly what he was supposed to do, but what he was supposed to do was really stupid. Sin Cara botched quite a few times in his first match, but it wasn't enough to kill him off. Maybe someone like Braden 'Knock Knock' Walker could qualify, but then I doubt he was ever supposed to be a big deal in the first place.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Apr 25, 2020 12:48:50 GMT -5
I'm going with from that Jackie Gayda infamous mix tag match from 2002 comes to mind. Kayabe wise we expected something better since she was selected by Chris Nowinski, who seemed like WWE had high hopes for but she made the pair of them look like clowns. Like the Shockmaster found out, you never get a second chance to make a first impression.
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Post by ToyfareMark on Apr 25, 2020 14:38:12 GMT -5
The invasion led by Shane and Stephanie. This has to be the answer. WWF has in its hands the single biggest angle in professional wrestling history, the one angle every wrestling fan has been dying to see since the formation of World Championship Wrestling. It should have been the greatest money-maker the company had ever seen, and they pissed it away in a matter of weeks. Thus it can't be compared to the Shockmaster. I keep seeing people talking about stuff that went on for weeks or months. That's not a "moment", because they can't be condensed down to one single moment in time. So really, Titus worldslide is probably the closest since it was an unplanned moment that was bad, but also hilarious, and did no real long term damage. |
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