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Post by Joe Neglia on May 26, 2020 11:29:35 GMT -5
I've removed some comments regarding a former worker's statements on the issue. We aren't giving that person a bit of attention on this. Do not bring it that up again, thanks - Madison
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Post by Cyno on May 26, 2020 13:41:41 GMT -5
That colorism/racism was a big part of it is something I have seen a lot of people miss. Hana was mixed race, and this fact was VERY much not lost on a lot of the people who went after her. Yeah, Japan still has a massive racism/xenophobia problem. Especially towards other Asian peoples. Hana being half-Indonesian certainly played into those monsters' motivations.
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Post by salz4life on May 26, 2020 13:48:42 GMT -5
Don’t watch Raw, but I’m hearing there was no mention of Hana on tonight’s show. I know Vince lives in his WWE/Titan bubble... but just this one time he could of done something noble and with class and have his program acknowledge this sad event, have the wrestling community come together and say “we are with you here”. But no, Hana never worked for Vince, so no mention. I know a lot of the talent on the WWE roster have expressed their thoughts over this on Twitter. I just think the most powerful man in this industry could of said something. I’m just a fool for believing that. Is it out of the realm of possibility that Vince wasn't aware? I don't get how that's possible, but who knows with Vince.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on May 26, 2020 14:38:11 GMT -5
I'm a strong believer in the potential and good of humanity but this situation has me feeling really down about it.
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Post by arrogantmodel on May 26, 2020 18:46:57 GMT -5
I'm a strong believer in the potential and good of humanity but this situation has me feeling really down about it. I get choked up watching youtube videos of people helping other people and animals. And I think that there are more good than bad people out there. Then this shit keeps happening. And we even see it from elected officials. It's just insane and absurd. The people who get off on trolling and harassing others deserve every bad thing that happens to them.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on May 26, 2020 19:36:32 GMT -5
Just awful. RIP.
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Post by Sparvid on May 27, 2020 6:25:15 GMT -5
Fuji Television announced that after previously already having suspended the next scheduled episodes of Terrace House, they are now cancelling at least this season, and will not air or record any more episodes.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on May 27, 2020 11:35:20 GMT -5
Just found out about this and my heart is broken. Hana was a bright shining star, really something special. I am at a loss for words. Like I said before, didn't know her, Googled her, and saw a single picture of her - pink hair tied in a neat ponytail wearing a business suit. The star quality was instant - I only got this sort of vibe off one picture from someone like Lady Gaga or Michael Jackson. So incredibly sad.
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Post by Malibu Albino on May 27, 2020 15:54:03 GMT -5
Disappointing to see the official Stardom statement on the issue, and how neither the company nor Hana's family will ever be publicly discussing how she died. Because that means there's zero chance they'll even try to come after the bullies legally over what happened. Eh, I’m not really gonna begrudge them for not wanting to get involved in a drawn out court case that will already have an extreme uphill battle since you’d be going after people whose identities are behind a screen. I can’t speak for the laws in Japan but it for sure would not go well in the US.
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 27, 2020 18:38:07 GMT -5
Disappointing to see the official Stardom statement on the issue, and how neither the company nor Hana's family will ever be publicly discussing how she died. Because that means there's zero chance they'll even try to come after the bullies legally over what happened. Publicly discussing it will get them nowhere. We saw how fast "be nice" lasted on Twitter after she passed. I guarantee they're discussing it with politicians and lawmakers who are working on getting the legislation written and passed to end this stuff in Japan, and that's what matters at this moment.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on May 29, 2020 0:29:04 GMT -5
Disappointing to see the official Stardom statement on the issue, and how neither the company nor Hana's family will ever be publicly discussing how she died. Because that means there's zero chance they'll even try to come after the bullies legally over what happened. Publicly discussing it will get them nowhere. We saw how fast "be nice" lasted on Twitter after she passed. I guarantee they're discussing it with politicians and lawmakers who are working on getting the legislation written and passed to end this stuff in Japan, and that's what matters at this moment. I sincerely hope you're right and that's what is happening right now. And maybe in the coming months and years, we'll see the rest of the world start to follow their lead.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 29, 2020 9:17:43 GMT -5
Publicly discussing it will get them nowhere. We saw how fast "be nice" lasted on Twitter after she passed. I guarantee they're discussing it with politicians and lawmakers who are working on getting the legislation written and passed to end this stuff in Japan, and that's what matters at this moment. What I took from the statement is they plan to never even acknowledge how she died, which would indicate they're not discussing it with politicians, lawmakers, or anybody. They're ignoring the circumstances, because they'd rather just forget about it, instead of try to hold the people who did this to her accountable. I would've loved to see a statement that they're discussing ANYTHING with lawmakers to try to do something about what happened. That's not the statement we got. We got that they won't ever talk about how she died. Japan has major social stigmas around mental health and suicide, not talking out publicly about her circumstances is not the same thing as it would be in a western country where the tragedy would be pushed at and tried to be used as an example, because that's not how they're seeing it; to belabour the point and keep on about it is to keep dragging her name through the mud, in a way. To talk about her committing suicide is, in so many words, to say she was weak. That's a statement someone could make here and get f***ing blasted for (and did), but in Japan, that's the societal implication. It's one that should be moved away from because peoples' mental health can't improve in a society that demonizes admitting you need help, but what should be done and what is being done are two very different things. Anything being done to the people who did this would come from laws that don't exist, anyway, and a mother charging in headfirst into a legal battle with the people who drove their child to suicide is also a very western thing. For now, the 'best thing' to them is to honour her by not saying what happened to the press and making sure more talk of her suicide is all over the place. That's f***ed up, but you have to apply a certain filter to these sorts of things, the cultures are so different on matters like this that it's not really a 1:1 comparison at all.
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Post by Starshine on May 30, 2020 3:27:36 GMT -5
Very sad to hear the details about this.
It's important to always keep in mind that while being online too much can lead you to believe the majority of people out there are as bad as they act; you also have to keep in mind you're focusing on a vocal minority, and the vast majority of people aren't online, and aren't close to being as brazenly abrasive as these people tend to be. I don't think we'll ever put the genie back in the bottle of containing what social media has become, but keeping this in mind can at least help you get better perspective on what you're looking at. 9 times out of 10, social media is as much as a performance as anything else out there.
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Post by Steveweiser on May 30, 2020 3:39:59 GMT -5
Rossy Ogawa has tweeted that Hana's funeral has taken place. It was held privately at both STARDOM and the family's request.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 30, 2020 6:15:05 GMT -5
Just as an added kick to the gut, there are reports that Hana wanted out of Terrace House as early as December, but her agency wouldn't let her leave. She was working with an outside agency for non-wrestling gigs, so Stardom couldn't get involved despite being her primary employer. I think the same report is saying that aound March Hana was even looking to leave that agency so she could exit the show on her own accord, but she couldn't get out of her contract, or something along those lines.
The report should be in Tokyo Sports, so it's in Japanese and I haven't seen a direct translation yet, but that's the gist of what I'm taking from the interpretations I've seen.
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Post by James Fabiano on May 30, 2020 19:34:25 GMT -5
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 31, 2020 11:43:49 GMT -5
How tragic. That breaks my heart for her.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jun 3, 2020 3:46:48 GMT -5
Hana’s kitty got a new home.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Jun 3, 2020 3:59:48 GMT -5
Hana’s kitty got a new home. My god, the first pic of the cat is so sad. It looks heartbroken.
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Post by Fundertaker on Jun 12, 2020 16:23:42 GMT -5
I don't really want to reopen fresh wounds but since there's some people that replied here in this thread that have never heard of Hana Kimura (or knew her work that well, like myself, as I don't really follow the joshi scene and only get bits and pieces here and there), I thought it can do good to share this here.
A friend of mine made a sort of abridged retrospective on Hana's career (and a bit about her mother Kyoko as well), which I feel would be a nice introduction for those who want to know a little more. And for those who knew and followed her career, well, a reminder of the good that she left us with.
(for full disclosure, I sometimes appear in podcasts on this channel, but my only involvement in this video was revising the Portuguese script that served as base for this English version)
Hope you all enjoy it.
To the mods: if this is somehow violating any rules please do tell, so I can adjust the post accordingly.
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