Wrapping up my watch of the MCU

[TWERKIN' MAGGLE]

Just some thoughts about Endgame and Far From Home...

Clint should have died, not Natasha. It's absurd how he was put on the chopping block in Ultron AND Endgame.

Kind of a bummer it seems like James Gunn has no interest in mixing Thor with the Guardians.

I realize I am very selfish, but I will always miss Steve Rogers.

Maria Hill quietly hating when Peter calls her ma'am is so damn funny.

Ned is a great character, he's integral to Peter in the MCU.

They really nailed the transition from Tony to Peter in the scene on the plane.

Jon Favreau is awesome in everything, in front of or behind the camera.

I really hope Disney and Sony work out a longer term deal to keep Spidey in the MCU.

The Spider-Man MCU stuff has been so tech based, it really will be cool if/when he has to deal with Eddie and the Symbiote stuff, however they do it.

I fear for Michelle Jones. Spider-Man has a knack for dating girls who catch bad cases of 'the deadness' and the fact that she's deliberately not named Mary Jane is a red flag.

Marisa Tomei will always be super gorgeous and super funny. Forever.

No f***ing way Mysterio is dead.

There's only one person who can play J. Jonah Jameson and his name is J.K. Simmons, bringing him back was the only way to keep JJJ.

I really enjoyed watching the MCU over again, can't wait for them to come back.

[King Boo]

FWIW, I think I read Hemsworth is supposed to be in Guardians 3? And the Guardians are showing up in Thor 4.

I will say that Natasha dying has more of an emotional punch than Clint, and this is from someone who likes Hawkeye. I'd rather have Natasha still around if I had to choose, but for maximum effect, I get it.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

May 24, 2020 16:07:27 GMT -5 King Boo said:

FWIW, I think I read Hemsworth is supposed to be in Guardians 3? And the Guardians are showing up in Thor 4.

I think it's supposed to be a "show up for the first few minutes only" kinda deal for Thor in Guardians 3. Thor 4 is anybody's guess.

[King Boo]

May 24, 2020 16:23:22 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

May 24, 2020 16:07:27 GMT -5 King Boo said:

FWIW, I think I read Hemsworth is supposed to be in Guardians 3? And the Guardians are showing up in Thor 4.

I think it's supposed to be a "show up for the first few minutes only" kinda deal for Thor in Guardians 3. Thor 4 is anybody's guess.

The Thor 4 thing I'm more certain on than the Guardians 3 thing. But honestly, with the way Thor 4 sounds, who even knows what'll be happening in that haha

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

May 24, 2020 16:24:31 GMT -5 King Boo said:

May 24, 2020 16:23:22 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

I think it's supposed to be a "show up for the first few minutes only" kinda deal for Thor in Guardians 3. Thor 4 is anybody's guess.

The Thor 4 thing I'm more certain on than the Guardians 3 thing. But honestly, with the way Thor 4 sounds, who even knows what'll be happening in that haha

Yeah, I'm almost positive at least some of the Guardians are confirmed for Thor 4, but probably only Taika and Feige know the extent of it.

[Deleted]

I don't know that I could ever actually do any straight watchthrough of all of these movies. To start with not seen the Ant-Man movies and Far From Home and don't intend to, and beyond that there are all kinds of these movies I really have no desire to ever watch again - right off the top of my head Thor 2 and 3 (former's a gigantic pile of bleh and latter I just find the tone and plot shifts obnoxious), Age of Ultron (I can't think of anything good to say about it), Winter Soldier (found it really boring), Homecoming (grated on me hard, felt like it was never going to end and Vulture's the only character I actually liked), and Doctor Strange (if I want to watch Iron Man I'll watch Iron Man).

I can see myself watching a lot of the movies again but I can't see a scenario where I'd be willing to sit through all of them.

[Rolent Tex]

One thing I’ll stand by to the very end is that Ant-Man is just as important to the MCU as Iron Man. They didn’t play it as much past Civil War, yet, but I love how the son and the protege of two major members of Shield that had a falling out came together to save the universe. Scott’s idea plus Hank’s Tech and Tony’s brains showed a glimpse of what Shield might have been capable of if Hank and Howard could have gotten along. Curious to see if Hank is given the privacy to continue his work at Stark Industries thanks to Pepper in AM3.

(Also, If rumors are true and AM3 brings in the Fantastic Four, Scott may end up being more important than most of the OG Avengers.)

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

May 24, 2020 16:07:27 GMT -5 King Boo said:

FWIW, I think I read Hemsworth is supposed to be in Guardians 3? And the Guardians are showing up in Thor 4.

I will say that Natasha dying has more of an emotional punch than Clint, and this is from someone who likes Hawkeye. I'd rather have Natasha still around if I had to choose, but for maximum effect, I get it.

While they both hit me in the gut, Gamora's death got me even harder emotionally. And the stuff with Star-Lord throughout Infinity War didn't bother me as much as it did some people.

I'm excited for Sam and what Anthony Mackie can do in the Cap role, but Steve is still my favorite MCU hero.

Rocket and Black Panther are probably tied for second with me. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Rocket isn't killed off in Guardians 3 like so many news sites keep speculating. Not just because he's too adorable to get rid of, there's more that can be done with developing him IMO. And T'Challa is a perfect mix of compassion and being a bad-ass power fantasy.

I think the series for the most part does a good job depicting Tony as someone who genuinely wants to help people, but his ego and stubbornness wind up causing problems. He's a flawed hero, but not to where it's "please get off my screen". When he did his snap, I was fighting back tears I'll admit.

When they discuss the really good MCU villains, I get the praise for Loki, Killmonger and Thanos, but Hela from Ragnarok and Alexander Pierce from winter Soldier impressed me (but I'm a fan of both Cate Blanchett and Robert Redford anyway so there might be bias on my part.)

[King Boo]

May 24, 2020 17:11:14 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

May 24, 2020 16:07:27 GMT -5 King Boo said:

FWIW, I think I read Hemsworth is supposed to be in Guardians 3? And the Guardians are showing up in Thor 4.

I will say that Natasha dying has more of an emotional punch than Clint, and this is from someone who likes Hawkeye. I'd rather have Natasha still around if I had to choose, but for maximum effect, I get it.

While they both hit me in the gut, Gamora's death got me even harder emotionally. And the stuff with Star-Lord throughout Infinity War didn't bother me as much as it did some people.

I'm excited for Sam and what Anthony Mackie can do in the Cap role, but Steve is still my favorite MCU hero.

Rocket and Black Panther are probably tied for second with me. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Rocket isn't killed off in Guardians 3 like so many news sites keep speculating. Not just because he's too adorable to get rid of, there's more that can be done with developing him IMO. And T'Challa is a perfect mix of compassion and being a bad-ass power fantasy.

I think the series for the most part does a good job depicting Tony as someone who genuinely wants to help people, but his ego and stubbornness wind up causing problems. He's a flawed hero, but not to where it's "please get off my screen". When he did his snap, I was fighting back tears I'll admit.

When they discuss the really good MCU villains, I get the praise for Loki, Killmonger and Thanos, but Hela from Ragnarok and Alexander Pierce from winter Soldier impressed me (but I'm a fan of both Cate Blanchett and Robert Redford anyway so there might be bias on my part.)

I. Will. RAGE. I love that sweet rabbit so very much.

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

May 24, 2020 17:13:49 GMT -5 King Boo said:

May 24, 2020 17:11:14 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

While they both hit me in the gut, Gamora's death got me even harder emotionally. And the stuff with Star-Lord throughout Infinity War didn't bother me as much as it did some people.

I'm excited for Sam and what Anthony Mackie can do in the Cap role, but Steve is still my favorite MCU hero.

Rocket and Black Panther are probably tied for second with me. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Rocket isn't killed off in Guardians 3 like so many news sites keep speculating. Not just because he's too adorable to get rid of, there's more that can be done with developing him IMO. And T'Challa is a perfect mix of compassion and being a bad-ass power fantasy.

I think the series for the most part does a good job depicting Tony as someone who genuinely wants to help people, but his ego and stubbornness wind up causing problems. He's a flawed hero, but not to where it's "please get off my screen". When he did his snap, I was fighting back tears I'll admit.

When they discuss the really good MCU villains, I get the praise for Loki, Killmonger and Thanos, but Hela from Ragnarok and Alexander Pierce from winter Soldier impressed me (but I'm a fan of both Cate Blanchett and Robert Redford anyway so there might be bias on my part.)

I. Will. RAGE. I love that sweet rabbit so very much.

If the unthinkable occurs, we're sharing pitchforks and torches.

[Deleted]

I did a rewatch right when Far From Home became available for home viewing. Some movies are better than others, but I think all of them are at least average. And it is amazing the way they tie together when you watch them in order. You would think that all of this was meticulously planned from the start. It's a thing of beauty.

And then after that I watched all the Marvel Netflix shows in order and that was great too.

Then I watched Runaways and Cloak & Dagger and that was great too.

Gonna watch Agents Of Shield all the way through when it finishes, and maybe Agent Carter first as a prequel.

But under no circumstances whatsoever, am I ever going to attempt to watch Inhumans again.

[King Boo]

May 24, 2020 17:15:17 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

May 24, 2020 17:13:49 GMT -5 King Boo said:

I. Will. RAGE. I love that sweet rabbit so very much.

If the unthinkable occurs, we're sharing pitchforks and torches.

Maybe it sounds weird, but Rocket is essentially who got me into the MCU. The Guardians movies on the whole did it, but Rocket is my favorite part of the MCU, let alone those flicks, so you can really pinpoint it to him. I'd be gutted if they did The Unthinkable (which is how I shall now refer to it going forward).

[Malibu Stacy]

Didn't see Endgame, but I thought Far From Home was fantastic. Paid extra to see it in Imax, worth every penny. My interest in the MCU proper at the time was fairly burnt out at this point, so I appreciated how FFH was done in such a way that you could take from it what you wanted. By that, I mean the Memorial in the beginning and the Tony stuff was done in a way that, at least from what I've read online, people looking for it could appreciate the emotional impact in the wake of Endgame, but it wasn't intrusive in the slightest to me and was worked well into the story. And I can't stress enough how in awe I am of Michelle's turn-around from being easily the worst part of Homecoming to the adorably awesome character she was here!

Nothing about nothing, but I personally would have preferred Bucky as Capt. I get all the reaons why people are happy with Falcon, Bucky=Cap is just the story I'd rather see first.

As much as I enjoyed the first GotG, I'm not sure how much to look forward to 3. Drax and Mantis interacting was the only saving grace of 2 for me, and I REALLY can't stand the Starlord/Gamora romance.

I love Paul Rudd as Ant-Man (his introduction to Steve in Civil War is the only fond memory I have of that movie) but skipped Ant-Man and the Wasp. I might check out the 3rd one out of curiosity if it does somehow involve Fantastic Four.

[Ultimo Gallos]

I get the feeling that I am one of the few that didn't like either GotG movies.

[EP 54 is banned from Collision]

I honestly think that out of all the sub-series I like Ant-Man's the most: Paul Rudd is awesome, I think the supporting cast is really good. I like the way they are smaller in scale and are basically heist movies.

[King Boo]

May 24, 2020 17:50:57 GMT -5 Malibu Stacy said:

Nothing about nothing, but I personally would have preferred Bucky as Capt. I get all the reaons why people are happy with Falcon, Bucky=Cap is just the story I'd rather see first.

Bucky's one of my absolute favorites in the MCU, and I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't bummed he didn't wind up being Cap. Nothing against Sam; I like the guy and Anthony Mackie is wonderful in general. But the history is richer between Steve and Bucky, and Bucky's worked hard to not be what Hydra made him. It would have been a nice story, and I'm a little worried he's just gonna play second fiddle to Sam now, when I think he's beyond due having his moment in the sun.

Plus every Cap movie has these *nudge nudge* HERE'S BUCKY USING THE SHIELD *nudge* moments that just bug me now when I see them.

I admit to my Bucky Love, but I've heard a lot of people feel how we do, so I know it's not just me and my biases.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

May 24, 2020 20:38:23 GMT -5 King Boo said:

May 24, 2020 17:50:57 GMT -5 Malibu Stacy said:

Nothing about nothing, but I personally would have preferred Bucky as Capt. I get all the reaons why people are happy with Falcon, Bucky=Cap is just the story I'd rather see first.

Bucky's one of my absolute favorites in the MCU, and I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't bummed he didn't wind up being Cap. Nothing against Sam; I like the guy and Anthony Mackie is wonderful in general. But the history is richer between Steve and Bucky, and Bucky's worked hard to not be what Hydra made him. It would have been a nice story, and I'm a little worried he's just gonna play second fiddle to Sam now, when I think he's beyond due having his moment in the sun.
Plus every Cap movie has these *nudge nudge* HERE'S BUCKY USING THE SHIELD *nudge* moments that just bug me now when I see them.

I admit to my Bucky Love, but I've heard a lot of people feel how we do, so I know it's not just me and my biases.

On the one hand it does bug me that they went with Sam, given Bucky's long history with Steve, but on the other, even in Civil War they were heading towards him wanting to just find peace and be done with fighting so it makes sense narratively that he wouldn't be volunteering to take on the mantle when Steve told him about his plan.

[King Boo]

May 24, 2020 21:45:24 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

May 24, 2020 20:38:23 GMT -5 King Boo said:

Bucky's one of my absolute favorites in the MCU, and I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't bummed he didn't wind up being Cap. Nothing against Sam; I like the guy and Anthony Mackie is wonderful in general. But the history is richer between Steve and Bucky, and Bucky's worked hard to not be what Hydra made him. It would have been a nice story, and I'm a little worried he's just gonna play second fiddle to Sam now, when I think he's beyond due having his moment in the sun.
Plus every Cap movie has these *nudge nudge* HERE'S BUCKY USING THE SHIELD *nudge* moments that just bug me now when I see them.

I admit to my Bucky Love, but I've heard a lot of people feel how we do, so I know it's not just me and my biases.

On the one hand it does bug me that they went with Sam, given Bucky's long history with Steve, but on the other, even in Civil War they were heading towards him wanting to just find peace and be done with fighting so it makes sense narratively that he wouldn't be volunteering to take on the mantle when Steve told him about his plan.

The thing that's stupid about that, if you want to call it that, is if they knew they were going to continue to use the character then there was really no point in anything they did regarding him not wanting to fight. He's obviously back to doing that in the show. So it's like they went from foreshadowing it, to saying he didn't want to fight so, presumably, Sam could take the mantle, to... him fighting anyway. So it sort of winds up feeling like the character got screwed, you know?

And even in Civil War they foreshadowed it with the shield. Like, which is it, guys?

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

May 24, 2020 22:07:25 GMT -5 King Boo said:

May 24, 2020 21:45:24 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

On the one hand it does bug me that they went with Sam, given Bucky's long history with Steve, but on the other, even in Civil War they were heading towards him wanting to just find peace and be done with fighting so it makes sense narratively that he wouldn't be volunteering to take on the mantle when Steve told him about his plan.

The thing that's stupid about that, if you want to call it that, is if they knew they were going to continue to use the character then there was really no point in anything they did regarding him not wanting to fight. He's obviously back to doing that in the show. So it's like they went from foreshadowing it, to saying he didn't want to fight so, presumably, Sam could take the mantle, to... him fighting anyway. So it sort of winds up feeling like the character got screwed, you know?

I get the feeling he's fated to be the slightly damaged reluctant hero who always wants to get away from the fight, but can't turn his back when the fight keeps coming to him. First it was Zemo, then Thanos, and presumably now Zemo will be back for more.

[King Boo]

May 24, 2020 22:38:04 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

May 24, 2020 22:07:25 GMT -5 King Boo said:

The thing that's stupid about that, if you want to call it that, is if they knew they were going to continue to use the character then there was really no point in anything they did regarding him not wanting to fight. He's obviously back to doing that in the show. So it's like they went from foreshadowing it, to saying he didn't want to fight so, presumably, Sam could take the mantle, to... him fighting anyway. So it sort of winds up feeling like the character got screwed, you know?

I get the feeling he's fated to be the slightly damaged reluctant hero who always wants to get away from the fight, but can't turn his back when the fight keeps coming to him. First it was Zemo, then Thanos, and presumably now Zemo will be back for more.

I can roll with that as long as he's not the sidekick. I'm open to whatever, just as long as it doesn't make the character exist on the periphery. They could do so much more than that.