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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 4, 2020 9:45:14 GMT -5
Finally got to watch Dynamite after missing it last night
I get what he wants to do but making everything dramatic is almost comical at this point.
JB was put over great tho but it felt more dramatic then it needed to be with the blood and then the little pyro after his 1st title defense
I'm interested to see how his other title defenses comes out because he damn sure can't do this to himself every 2 weeks and he's going to need some quick defenses to put over his dominance as well
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Post by autisticgeordie on Jun 4, 2020 9:53:17 GMT -5
I don't mind it, Cody is a very old school, almost southern style wrestler compared to people like The Bucks or Omega, not that either way is a bad thing, but considering his style of in-ring work isn't as flashy, I personally have no qualms with him being a bit over the top or dramatic in other areas.
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Post by markymark on Jun 4, 2020 10:00:09 GMT -5
Isnt this the 2nd time he blades? Fyter Fest and Full Gear dont count because those were accidents.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 4, 2020 10:09:08 GMT -5
I was fine with it for last night but the Marq Quen match should tone it down a bit. It should still be a good match but it shouldn't try to be a game changer for his career or anything. Just a solid showcase.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 4, 2020 10:12:33 GMT -5
No. He's my favorite wrestler today. This is what got him over. I know there's no crowds, but when there were, the crowds would chant "Cody Cody".
Without Cody, there is no AEW. Not only should he have complete creative freedom to do anything he wants, I think it would be foolish on anyone's part, like a Tony Khan, to tell him to "tone it down."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 10:31:28 GMT -5
Lol, Cody is like a modern Ric Flair. If he's wrestling someone that isn't a jobber, it's an epic bloody battle, even if he doesn't have any beef with the guy he's facing.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jun 4, 2020 10:34:17 GMT -5
Yeah, the blade job was really too much here. It didn't add anything that Cody was bloodied, and in fact it hurt suspension of disbelief because he has bled often enough in his matches that instead of "Jungle Boy took Cody to the limit," it became "Oh, there's Cody bleeding again."
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 4, 2020 10:37:04 GMT -5
No. He's my favorite wrestler today. This is what got him over. I know there's no crowds, but when there were, the crowds would chant "Cody Cody". Without Cody, there is no AEW. Not only should he have complete creative freedom to do anything he wants, I think it would be foolish on anyone's part, like a Tony Khan, to tell him to "tone it down." I mean I wouldn't say that You need a filter for everything you do to bounce it off people so it doesn't come across self serving but they have walked that fine line very well without going overboard |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 4, 2020 10:38:49 GMT -5
Isnt this the 2nd time he blades? Fyter Fest and Full Gear dont count because those were accidents. Hmm idk, I was just talking the dramatics he does in general not just bleeding |
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 4, 2020 10:40:48 GMT -5
... Not only should he have complete creative freedom to do anything he wants... There's a giant pile of dead promotions over in the corner that had that line of thinking with "their guy" |
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 4, 2020 10:45:18 GMT -5
... Not only should he have complete creative freedom to do anything he wants... There's a giant pile of dead promotions over in the corner that had that line of thinking with "their guy" AEW exists and is successful because of the creative freedom of the wrestlers. Companies didn't die because wrestlers were given too much freedom, they die because of financial mismanagement. |
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Post by CeilingFan on Jun 4, 2020 10:50:25 GMT -5
There's a giant pile of dead promotions over in the corner that had that line of thinking with "their guy" AEW exists and is successful because of the creative freedom of the wrestlers. Companies didn't die because wrestlers were given too much freedom, they die because of financial mismanagement. I respectfully disagree. One of the reasons WCW doesn't exist is because Hulk Hogan was given too much creative control. |
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Post by Cieto on Jun 4, 2020 10:57:52 GMT -5
Nah, It's his 'thing', part of his character. Sometimes it fits perfectly, other times we can take or leave it.
Overall I think it does more good than harm though.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 4, 2020 11:02:44 GMT -5
... Not only should he have complete creative freedom to do anything he wants... There's a giant pile of dead promotions over in the corner that had that line of thinking with "their guy" Yea, WCW with Hulk Hogan and his creative control Dixie had a few she gave the keys to Kurt Angle, Matt Hardy, Bully Ray, Hulk & Bisch |
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 4, 2020 11:16:45 GMT -5
AEW exists and is successful because of the creative freedom of the wrestlers. Companies didn't die because wrestlers were given too much freedom, they die because of financial mismanagement. I respectfully disagree. One of the reasons WCW doesn't exist is because Hulk Hogan was given too much creative control. That is revisionist history. Hulk Hogan having freedom to stop storylines hurt WCW a lot of times, but it didn't kill WCW. Vince Russo's horrid booking, corporate mismanagement, the Rock and Steve Austin emerging, and Time Warners sale to AOL killed WCW. Not Hulk Hogan refusing to job to someone, or put someone over, or playing politics. Also, Hulk Hogan is a horrendous human being. Comparing his "freedom" to Cody having the freedom to do what he wants almost hurts to read. Hulk's dad wasn't one of the best bookers of all time. Hulk didn't help create a successful company out of nothing. Hulk's dad isn't considered one of the most important people in wrestler's lives for the last 4 decades. Hulk is condidered a backstabbing liar racist by even his closest ex friends. So I'll say it again. Cody should have the creative freedom to do what he wants in AEW. As should all the wrestlers. If something isn't working, then you can help tweak it. But I love Cody, I love the Mid-Atlantic style, and I think a lot of people do as well, or entire sold out arenas wouldn't be chanting Cody's name. |
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 4, 2020 11:20:27 GMT -5
There's a giant pile of dead promotions over in the corner that had that line of thinking with "their guy" Yea, WCW with Hulk Hogan and his creative control Dixie had a few she gave the keys to Kurt Angle, Matt Hardy, Bully Ray, Hulk & Bisch How did giving creative control to Matt Hardy, Kurt Angle or Bully Ray close TNA? |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 4, 2020 11:25:22 GMT -5
Yea, WCW with Hulk Hogan and his creative control Dixie had a few she gave the keys to Kurt Angle, Matt Hardy, Bully Ray, Hulk & Bisch How did giving creative control to Matt Hardy, Kurt Angle or Bully Ray close TNA? I never said it closed TNA They didn't really bring in business tho and in the cases of Matt and Bully brought in their own people as well on Dixie dime. No one thing kills a business, it is a trickle down effect |
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Post by toodarkmark on Jun 4, 2020 11:36:08 GMT -5
How did giving creative control to Matt Hardy, Kurt Angle or Bully Ray close TNA? I never said it closed TNA They didn't really bring in business tho and in the cases of Matt and Bully brought in their own people as well on Dixie dime. No one thing kills a business, it is a trickle down effect I still am not sure how creative freedom killed TNA? Hogan and Bischoff are such a popular example, but they're garbage people. Bischoff was not even a wrestler. TNA died because Dixie mismanaged the company. AWA died because Verne mismanaged the company. ECW died because Paul E mismanaged the company. WCW died because corporate mismanaged the company. None of these companies died because their most talented performers were given freedom to get over and develop their characters. Isnt that something every veteran complains about? How wrestlers used to be allowed to get themselves over? The second a company does that, suddenly every creative wrestler becomes Hulk Hogan? That's everybody's go to? Wrestler creativity is the best thing about wrestling, and a huge reason I watch AEW. So I think Cody should have the freedom to do his Mid-Atlantic gimmick to the fullest, without the idea that somehow he is Hulk Hogan. As if Hogan would have put MJF over. |
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Post by warden on Jun 4, 2020 11:39:23 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. One of the reasons WCW doesn't exist is because Hulk Hogan was given too much creative control. That is revisionist history. Hulk Hogan having freedom to stop storylines hurt WCW a lot of times, but it didn't kill WCW. Vince Russo's horrid booking, corporate mismanagement, the Rock and Steve Austin emerging, and Time Warners sale to AOL killed WCW. Not Hulk Hogan refusing to job to someone, or put someone over, or playing politics. Also, Hulk Hogan is a horrendous human being. Comparing his "freedom" to Cody having the freedom to do what he wants almost hurts to read. Hulk's dad wasn't one of the best bookers of all time. Hulk didn't help create a successful company out of nothing. Hulk's dad isn't considered one of the most important people in wrestler's lives for the last 4 decades. Hulk is condidered a backstabbing liar racist by even his closest ex friends. So I'll say it again. Cody should have the creative freedom to do what he wants in AEW. As should all the wrestlers. If something isn't working, then you can help tweak it. But I love Cody, I love the Mid-Atlantic style, and I think a lot of people do as well, or entire sold out arenas wouldn't be chanting Cody's name. Hulk Hogan is considered as one of the greats of all time. No matter what you feel, that guy is super important to the history of wrestling. As for Cody. He doesn't need to blade for everyone. Unless he can't help it at this point. I would not be surprised if he just bleeds now by thinking hard lol. And unless he's slowly turning heel not sure what's with all the pyro. He should totally crush that private party guy next week though |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2020 11:53:59 GMT -5
Hopefully he doesn't end up like Flair where a strong wind makes him bleed from the forehead almost instantly.
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