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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 17, 2020 20:17:15 GMT -5
I didn't think it was possible to intentionally f*** yourself over this bad
You're trying to talk around it and then basically being an ass about it. You do realize this will f*** your career and personal life right?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jun 17, 2020 20:24:51 GMT -5
I’m shocked. SHOCKED.
Well. Not that shocked since this always f***ing happens
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jun 17, 2020 20:50:54 GMT -5
I feel like his boast about being really good at Twitter may not have been accurate.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 17, 2020 21:12:23 GMT -5
Starr was always trying to hail himself as a king of the indies and even was trying to pull for a union in wrestling, so it kinda sucks when someone who is trying to advocate for people turns out to be a complete and total scumbag
But with how Starr has always carried himself, I wish I could say I was surprised but I'm not really that he'd be involved in shit like this... have a feeling he's gonna be blackballed from wrestling just about.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 17, 2020 21:25:26 GMT -5
I've always heard rumors about Starr being a douche when he was starting out in CZW but I never thought he'd be a cowardly woman abuser. I was a fan of his until this moment, his apology was so bad that it destroyed any good will he had left
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 17, 2020 21:27:28 GMT -5
Starr was always trying to hail himself as a king of the indies and even was trying to pull for a union in wrestling, so it kinda sucks when someone who is trying to advocate for people turns out to be a complete and total scumbag But with how Starr has always carried himself, I wish I could say I was surprised but I'm not really that he'd be involved in shit like this... have a feeling he's gonna be blackballed from wrestling just about. He only needed to give his enemies one excuse to not f*** with him and this is a big excuse to not do so
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 17, 2020 22:12:11 GMT -5
Starr was always trying to hail himself as a king of the indies and even was trying to pull for a union in wrestling, so it kinda sucks when someone who is trying to advocate for people turns out to be a complete and total scumbag But with how Starr has always carried himself, I wish I could say I was surprised but I'm not really that he'd be involved in shit like this... have a feeling he's gonna be blackballed from wrestling just about. Yeah i don't want to say i saw this coming as Starr has been there to support women who dealt with abuse on the indies but something about how he carried himself and spoke it felt like something was off... whether it was his talk of unionizing wrestling or other views he always talked like he wanted to be a martyr for people to see as an example for change. Even reading his apology it feels Ike he is almost expecting to be a symbol of change and come out better for it.
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Post by Display Name on Jun 18, 2020 0:58:21 GMT -5
"Organizer with a messiah complex ends up being abusive douche" is all too common. Absolutely. I’ve been expecting some dirt on him to come out for awhile. I’m not shocked at all.
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Post by honsou on Jun 18, 2020 2:05:47 GMT -5
I didn't think it was even theoretically possible to be worse at twitter than Sunny but here we are because good lord has he handled this in every wrong way imaginable.
He admits that the events occurred...kinda, then tries to minimize the events, then puts out an even more dumbfounding apology via a promoted tweet and now seems to be trying to act like a martyr...or something. If there were any justice in the world his wrestling career would be completely over and I would never have to worry about seeing him again. But people gave Teddy Hart another chance so who the hell knows
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Post by Secret Clown on Jun 18, 2020 2:12:25 GMT -5
Unrelated to this but in Wrestling games I always created a wrestler called David Star. I didn't realise there was an actual wrestler with this name.
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Post by Viking Hall on Jun 18, 2020 3:05:02 GMT -5
I normally hate these Trials by Social Media because I think it sets a dangerous precedent where anyone can say anything about anyone without a shred of evidence and ruin their lives.
He's just made this very much not that case at all though. He's up to his neck in it.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 18, 2020 4:24:33 GMT -5
I normally hate these Trials by Social Media because I think it sets a dangerous precedent where anyone can say anything about anyone without a shred of evidence and ruin their lives. He's just made this very much not that case at all though. He's up to his neck in it. Yeah I was gonna give him the benefit of the doubt, but he put up the most tone deaf apology of all time and basically self incriminated himself EDIT: I saw say this gem on twitter from him. (Warning Lanuage) (((David Starr)))Rose @theproductds · 13h Replying to @theproductds and @slaymysterio I hope that you've found peace with this as I found mine over the past several weeks. I've let go of my anger. I'm looking inward and taking responsibility for things I've done wrong. I'm gonna move forward and be better. That's all I can do.
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Post by Square on Jun 18, 2020 6:07:41 GMT -5
Multiple companies now have disowned him/stripped him of their titles. The biggest being OTT.
Guess he's not your favourite wrestlers favourite wrestler nor really good at twitter anymore. He's just a dick.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2020 7:48:06 GMT -5
I was a big fan of Starr's but holy shit. That apology was basically 'I'm sorry you feel I raped you', which is just awful.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 18, 2020 7:50:35 GMT -5
Multiple companies now have disowned him/stripped him of their titles. The biggest being OTT. Guess he's not your favourite wrestlers favourite wrestler nor really good at twitter anymore. He's just a dick. Looks like the Starr vs. Jon Moxley match originally set for ScrapperMania won’t be happening ever... though that’s small potatoes compared to the news that Starr is a trashbag.
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Post by Honeybear Lyder on Jun 18, 2020 8:36:57 GMT -5
Breaking news, David Starr is an asshole. Also, man has landed on the moon.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jun 18, 2020 9:31:28 GMT -5
This was really the typical bad celebrity apology.
The issue with most apologies of this kind is that rather than focus on the wrongdoing committed by the celebrity (minor though he may be) and the damage it caused, the focus was on the lack of intent to do harm.
It's distressingly common that people go on the "I'm sorry but I didn't mean to" path with apologies. I mean yeah it's nice to know you didn't mean to do what you did wrong.
Especially the detail of his "I didn't know" excuse. This really shows he doesn't get it. If your partner comes to you about something, and your response is to dismiss it with "I didn't know" yes, that is absolutely invalidating their feelings.
If he'd gone the route of "I didn't understand at the time that my actions were wrong, but I now realize what I did" that's one thing. But rather than just admit his behavior was fully wrong, he goes on to try to absolve himself somewhat.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jun 18, 2020 9:43:37 GMT -5
So as someone who should have loved Starr for every possible reason, I always felt that there was something off about him. Not to this extent because this is close to worst case scenario stuff, but something that would expose him as a fraud. I've ran in similar circles, and this type of guy is all too common and ends up making movements about themselves.
f*** Max Barsky.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Jun 18, 2020 9:58:45 GMT -5
Starr works in the UK a lot, so I guess he's part of BritWres? What the f*** is it with BritWres that has lead to all of this? As a Brit myself, I never heard anything about the seedier aspects when people like Will Ospreay were getting booked in PWG and PROGRESS was really establishing itself as a top indy promotion, same with OTT (I know they're Irish, but a lot of BritWres workers worked there.) and it just seems like things have been going wrong all at once?
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Jun 18, 2020 10:03:26 GMT -5
David Starr is like the James Deen of wrestling. Performer in a historically shady industry shining a light on himself as this super-woke beacon of light, when in reality he's a scumbag.
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