the2ndevil
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Post by the2ndevil on Jun 19, 2020 19:05:07 GMT -5
Biggest shocker here is they didn't add "Bye, bitch" to the end of that.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2020 19:08:05 GMT -5
I could be completely wrong here, but I don't think this is necessarily an indication of definite guilt or admission. If I were to guess, I would say he's one of the people under police investigation and they've released him pending the results of that. We'll see. Idk about that As said already WWE does not release you just because of an allegation. A few stars of WWE have been accused of things like rape and generally the rule is to lie low until we figure it out. The only ones who actually got released based on recent memory is ones that didn't listen or actually did what they were accused of Enzo didn't want to listen and got released. He most likely would still been on the roster if he actually laid low. Rich Swann got cut fast when the allegations about the incident between him and his wife came out and there was truth to it. A few years ago Heath Slater was accused of rape and taken off TV until that whole thing was taken care of. He wasn't cut, they just waited to see how things would play out and once he was clear he was back on TV
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 19, 2020 19:12:41 GMT -5
I could be completely wrong here, but I don't think this is necessarily an indication of definite guilt or admission. If I were to guess, I would say he's one of the people under police investigation and they've released him pending the results of that. We'll see. Idk about that As said already WWE does not release you just because of an allegation. A few stars of WWE have been accused of things like rape and generally the rule is to lie low until we figure it out. The only ones who actually got released based on recent memory is ones that didn't listen or actually did what they were accused of Enzo didn't want to listen and got released. He most likely would still been on the roster if he actually laid low. Rich Swann got cut fast when the allegations about the incident between him and his wife came out and there was truth to it. A few years ago Heath Slater was accused of rape and taken off TV until that whole thing was taken care of. He wasn't cut, they just waited to see how things would play out and once he was clear he was back on TV Lawler was arrested for a domestic dispute a few years ago too and he was put on suspension... when charges were dropped (or his girlfriend was the one that got actually charged I forget which) he was reinstated. Thats the first I remember hearing about the WWE's corporate policy on these things.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jun 19, 2020 19:20:20 GMT -5
Idk about that As said already WWE does not release you just because of an allegation. A few stars of WWE have been accused of things like rape and generally the rule is to lie low until we figure it out. The only ones who actually got released based on recent memory is ones that didn't listen or actually did what they were accused of Enzo didn't want to listen and got released. He most likely would still been on the roster if he actually laid low. Rich Swann got cut fast when the allegations about the incident between him and his wife came out and there was truth to it. A few years ago Heath Slater was accused of rape and taken off TV until that whole thing was taken care of. He wasn't cut, they just waited to see how things would play out and once he was clear he was back on TV Yeah, as I say, I could be reading it completely wrong. If - and this is a big if - I were to speculate further I would say that it could depend on who's investigating the charges and where they're being investigated, IE if it's in the US or UK. Obviously something has taken place for it to get to this point, I just don't know what. It's all such a mess.
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Post by msc on Jun 19, 2020 19:20:30 GMT -5
Yeah, Gallagher getting cut that fast on past precedent isn't a good outlook for him, not that that matters of course if he is guilty.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jun 19, 2020 19:22:05 GMT -5
I could be completely wrong here, but I don't think this is necessarily an indication of definite guilt or admission. If I were to guess, I would say he's one of the people under police investigation and they've released him pending the results of that. We'll see. Idk about that As said already WWE does not release you just because of an allegation. A few stars of WWE have been accused of things like rape and generally the rule is to lie low until we figure it out. The only ones who actually got released based on recent memory is ones that didn't listen or actually did what they were accused of Enzo didn't want to listen and got released. He most likely would still been on the roster if he actually laid low. Rich Swann got cut fast when the allegations about the incident between him and his wife came out and there was truth to it. A few years ago Heath Slater was accused of rape and taken off TV until that whole thing was taken care of. He wasn't cut, they just waited to see how things would play out and once he was clear he was back on TV In the case of Enzo as well, he actually knew an investigation was coming, but didn't give WWE a proper heads up. In all honesty he might have gotten fired for something else stupid later cause he's kind of an idiot, but if had just told WWE what was going on they would have suspended him or just kept him off tv until it was revealed the allegations were false.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 19, 2020 19:23:19 GMT -5
Well.
That is not a fella with a look that is easy to go incognito with.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jun 19, 2020 19:24:30 GMT -5
He must've admitted it to the office to be released that quickly.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2020 19:24:57 GMT -5
Idk about that As said already WWE does not release you just because of an allegation. A few stars of WWE have been accused of things like rape and generally the rule is to lie low until we figure it out. The only ones who actually got released based on recent memory is ones that didn't listen or actually did what they were accused of Enzo didn't want to listen and got released. He most likely would still been on the roster if he actually laid low. Rich Swann got cut fast when the allegations about the incident between him and his wife came out and there was truth to it. A few years ago Heath Slater was accused of rape and taken off TV until that whole thing was taken care of. He wasn't cut, they just waited to see how things would play out and once he was clear he was back on TV In the case of Enzo as well, he actually knew an investigation was coming, but didn't give WWE a proper heads up. In all honesty he might have gotten fired for something else stupid later cause he's kind of an idiot, but if had just told WWE what was going on they would have suspended him or just kept him off tv until it was revealed the allegations were false. Right. He straight up did not tell the WWE this was coming down which was another strike on him He probably would done something else stupid most likely but yeah based upon that one allegation and out of Enzo own mouth they told him to relax and he didn't. He wanted to still be doing extra shit and WWE just washed their hands with him
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Post by Moppy on Jun 19, 2020 19:26:06 GMT -5
As others have said
It's extremely telling that he's been cut so fast.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2020 19:28:53 GMT -5
Idk about that As said already WWE does not release you just because of an allegation. A few stars of WWE have been accused of things like rape and generally the rule is to lie low until we figure it out. The only ones who actually got released based on recent memory is ones that didn't listen or actually did what they were accused of Enzo didn't want to listen and got released. He most likely would still been on the roster if he actually laid low. Rich Swann got cut fast when the allegations about the incident between him and his wife came out and there was truth to it. A few years ago Heath Slater was accused of rape and taken off TV until that whole thing was taken care of. He wasn't cut, they just waited to see how things would play out and once he was clear he was back on TV Yeah, as I say, I could be reading it completely wrong. If - and this is a big if - I were to speculate further I would say that it could depend on who's investigating the charges and where they're being investigated, IE if it's in the US or UK. Obviously something has taken place for it to get to this point, I just don't know what. It's all such a mess. I guess so but as said those investigations dealing with the cops really doesn't mean they are going to cut you just because Enzo had a police investigation as well. Generally all this stuff goes through the courts and WWE will let that play out but for Jack to be cut so fast only leads to the idea something was off and their is a truth in one of those allegations or he could asked for his release as well but the fact they said they came to terms with his release and no future endeavors message does not paint a pretty light for him
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jun 19, 2020 19:38:56 GMT -5
I guess so but as said those investigations dealing with the cops really doesn't mean they are going to cut you just because Enzo had a police investigation as well. Generally all this stuff goes through the courts and WWE will let that play out but for Jack to be cut so fast only leads to the idea something was off and their is a truth in one of those allegations or he could asked for his release as well but the fact they said they came to terms with his release and no future endeavors message does not paint a pretty light for him No, I get you. There is something different here compared to the other times allegations have been made. I think I wondered a bit because this is new territory, this is an overseas talent who may or may not be being investigated by police in another country. But you and the other posts are absolutely right, all the other times talent were facing criminal charges they weren't released.
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Post by ayumidah on Jun 19, 2020 19:40:34 GMT -5
I could be completely wrong here, but I don't think this is necessarily an indication of definite guilt or admission. If I were to guess, I would say he's one of the people under police investigation and they've released him pending the results of that. We'll see. A few years ago Heath Slater was accused of rape and taken off TV until that whole thing was taken care of. He wasn't cut, they just waited to see how things would play out and once he was clear he was back on TV Mostly. It was assault he was accused of because the woman claimed he was trying to take her back to his hotel room, she refused and he attacked her. It went to court and ultimately thrown out due to statutes of limitations running out.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Jun 19, 2020 19:53:43 GMT -5
I don't know, I can't help but feel he got the thin end of the wedge here. If he's guilty then good riddance, but it seems unlikely to me that the WWE carried out any kind of investigation so quickly.
Smacks a bit of the WWE canning a guy they didn't care for, so as to be seen to be doing something.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 19, 2020 20:18:08 GMT -5
Idk about that As said already WWE does not release you just because of an allegation. A few stars of WWE have been accused of things like rape and generally the rule is to lie low until we figure it out. The only ones who actually got released based on recent memory is ones that didn't listen or actually did what they were accused of Enzo didn't want to listen and got released. He most likely would still been on the roster if he actually laid low. Rich Swann got cut fast when the allegations about the incident between him and his wife came out and there was truth to it. A few years ago Heath Slater was accused of rape and taken off TV until that whole thing was taken care of. He wasn't cut, they just waited to see how things would play out and once he was clear he was back on TV In the case of Enzo as well, he actually knew an investigation was coming, but didn't give WWE a proper heads up. In all honesty he might have gotten fired for something else stupid later cause he's kind of an idiot, but if had just told WWE what was going on they would have suspended him or just kept him off tv until it was revealed the allegations were false. I think they were just looking for a reason to fire Enzo because pretty much everyone hated him and he was obnoxious. That said if he kept his head down instead of acting like a baby he'd probably have lasted a little longer. The fact that Enzo only got suspended (At first) but now Jack Gallagher was flat out fired speaks volumes about what a happening here.
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Post by XIII on Jun 19, 2020 20:21:41 GMT -5
Just waiting for “WWE has come to terms with the release of NXT:UK” at this point
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Post by Shark on Jun 19, 2020 20:21:50 GMT -5
I don't know, I can't help but feel he got the thin end of the wedge here. If he's guilty then good riddance, but it seems unlikely to me that the WWE carried out any kind of investigation so quickly. Smacks a bit of the WWE canning a guy they didn't care for, so as to be seen to be doing something. Devlin, Banks, Coffey, and Wolfgang, and Ligero were all accused too and they weren't released. I can't imagine they cared for Gallagher that much more than the others. Actually, given he was just in the cruiserweight tournament and still featured a lot on 205Live, they likely cared for him a fair bit. Given they do usually stick by their talent at times like this, there was likely something there.
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Post by eJm on Jun 19, 2020 20:25:35 GMT -5
]Lawler was arrested for a domestic dispute a few years ago too and he was put on suspension... when charges were dropped (or his girlfriend was the one that got actually charged I forget which) he was reinstated. They were both charged. The trouble was that police could not make heads or tails of either alibi (location was similar but what was being used, who had it, how it all started etc) so all charges were dropped. Also, this needs to be said again concerning Enzo and it’s something that sticks in my craw because of how widespread it was; Police could not prove that Enzo did or did not do the crime so the trial was ruled inconclusive. There’s a massive difference between that and not guilty.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Jun 19, 2020 20:27:36 GMT -5
I don't know, I can't help but feel he got the thin end of the wedge here. If he's guilty then good riddance, but it seems unlikely to me that the WWE carried out any kind of investigation so quickly. Smacks a bit of the WWE canning a guy they didn't care for, so as to be seen to be doing something. Devlin, Banks, Coffey, and Wolfgang, and Ligero were all accused too and they weren't released. I can't imagine they cared for Gallagher that much more than the others. Actually, given he was just in the cruiserweight tournament and still featured a lot on 205Live, they likely cared for him a fair bit. Given they do usually stick by their talent at times like this, there was likely something there. That's fair. I'm sure in this case more will come to light over the next couple of days.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2020 20:35:02 GMT -5
]Lawler was arrested for a domestic dispute a few years ago too and he was put on suspension... when charges were dropped (or his girlfriend was the one that got actually charged I forget which) he was reinstated. They were both charged. The trouble was that police could not make heads or tails of either alibi (location was similar but what was being used, who had it, how it all started etc) so all charges were dropped. Also, this needs to be said again concerning Enzo and it’s something that sticks in my craw because of how widespread it was; Police could not prove that Enzo did or did not do the crime so the trial was ruled inconclusive. There’s a massive difference between that and not guilty. Yea, but Enzo would kept his job based upon that technicality
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