jagilki
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Post by jagilki on Jul 21, 2020 23:28:57 GMT -5
Charlotte.
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Post by eJm on Jul 21, 2020 23:35:48 GMT -5
I think Bianca will get there. Remember her Rumble showing? To be fair, they did until April.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Jul 22, 2020 1:40:11 GMT -5
Obvious answer is Kairi
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Mozenrath
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 22, 2020 1:43:57 GMT -5
Agreed. Even the top ones are being misused, wrestling the same small handful of people over and over and over again. That's not doing anyone any favors.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 22, 2020 1:44:54 GMT -5
Yeah, pretty much most of the women deserve better then they get. Becky put the majority of them down during her super run... and no one was really built up to face her... Charlotte ended up on all 3 shows at the beginning of the year pretty much up until she left for surgery too... Sasha and Becky doing their schtick everywhere too which takes time out from any of the other women .
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Jonathan Michaels
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jul 22, 2020 2:12:36 GMT -5
I voted Sonya because they’ve practically forgotten her, but they could not have possibly dropped the ball any harder with Rhea Ripley.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 22, 2020 2:20:13 GMT -5
Sonya has improved and I think they could do more with her, but I would like to see her as a face. She's one of the biggest IRL babyfaces in the company IMO. Sonya does a lot of great things for activism and I loved the story Tegan told about how much she supported her when she was coming out. I originally voted for Kairi, but Sonya already does so much with the platform she has. Imagine how much more of it she could have if she had the same presence as a Charlotte or Becky Lynch.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jul 22, 2020 2:22:47 GMT -5
Shotzi Blackheart - She's still growing as a performer, but IMO she has that "it factor" we talk about. I enjoy her in ring style and she has an adorkable (I hate using that word, but it fits) likability that can appeal to men, women, and even kids. The only thing this woman deserves is a night in a jail cell after nearly murdering Robert Stone and running him over with a tank.
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Bo Rida
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 22, 2020 2:37:31 GMT -5
I went for Liv Morgan as she basically disappeared for a year for no good reason then lost everything that made her unique.
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adamclark52
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 22, 2020 2:42:43 GMT -5
Who in the f*** voted for Charlotte???
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 22, 2020 3:04:15 GMT -5
I was so close to choosing Bianca. But Askua should not be doing that dumb dancing, and should be booked so much stronger. To me, its borderline racist how they make her act Yes, WWE is totally the entity that's making Asuka dance. She would never have done this Japan. We can say WWE and wrestling in general is racist in a lot of ways, but Asuka's portrayal on WWE is not one of them. If anything, what we have on WWE TV right now is as close to the real person behind the makeup as we are going to get.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jul 22, 2020 3:12:52 GMT -5
Asuka. I know she's getting a push but there's no reason she shouldn't be the biggest star in the company.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 22, 2020 3:15:35 GMT -5
I was so close to choosing Bianca. But Askua should not be doing that dumb dancing, and should be booked so much stronger. To me, its borderline racist how they make her act Yes, WWE is totally the entity that's making Asuka dance. She would never have done this Japan. We can say WWE and wrestling in general is racist in a lot of ways, but Asuka's portrayal on WWE is not one of them. If anything, what we have on WWE TV right now is as close to the real person behind the makeup as we are going to get. Yeah, Asuka is pretty much doing what Asuka always did.
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Post by 4real on Jul 22, 2020 3:34:51 GMT -5
Ruby Riott should be one of the top faces. She can definitely be up to Nikki Cross level given the right push.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Jul 22, 2020 5:29:03 GMT -5
People act like having Asuka dance makes her any less of a monster in the ring. She's getting to show some personality in the ring, don't know why people have such a hard on for serious, stoic heels. God forbid people dare to have fun in wrestling, right?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 5:42:17 GMT -5
Voted Liv as there's absolutely no reason to at least try to build her as title challenger for two months to see how it all would look. Ala Becky. I could market the heck out of that leather and turn puns from millions into billions. Same thing with Billie Kay and Peyton Royce, they have the unique goofy factor. Sonya Deville could be the new lass kickin' pride fighter guru. I'd start with those and that's not just because I happen to like them. I like them for a reason! Non of them have got so far a fair shot at fair continuous push, even if they've been sometimes in television...
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jul 22, 2020 6:42:46 GMT -5
Voted Liv as there's absolutely no reason to at least try to build her as title challenger for two months to see how it all would look. Ala Becky. I could market the heck out of that leather and turn puns from millions into billions. Same thing with Billie Kay and Peyton Royce, they have the unique goofy factor. Sonya Deville could be the new lass kickin' pride fighter guru. I'd start with those and that's not just because I happen to like them. I like them for a reason! Non of them have got so far a fair shot at fair continuous push, even if they've been sometimes in television... But herein lies a conundrum. You have named FOUR people you want to see pushed as top stars, right? That's not a problem. Hell, all of them in different branches of the division and/or on different shows. But, who do you feed them? WWE don't use straight-up enhancement talents, so it'll be a lot of those other under-utilised talents that deserve better, that'll be counting the lights for them. Take Sonya Deville, for example. She's a rising SmackDown heel, so she will need a babyface to beat... Like for example, I don't know, NAOMI!!! You see the issue here? The division is made up of a core group of talents that have been rocket-pushed to the high pedestals (Lynch, Flair, Bayley and Banks, to a lesser extent Asuka and Bliss) and everyone else is either these hard-done-by outcasts (most of those that are left)... or talents that most here wouldn't even want to see on TV AT ALL, let alone even as enhancement talent (Jax, Tamina and, for sheer staleness more than severe lack of ability, Natalya). *sigh* It's just a pile-up of shit that's been building for years where it's like... I have no solution that will make EVERYONE happy, and it breaks my goddamn heart. WWE can't write good non-title storylines, so the only way someone is seen as worth a shit at any specific time is by being one of the few people that get to hold the gold, and even THEN it's a crapshoot. Because WWE are so heavy on the dirty finish, so anyone that loses clean is seen as a loser pile of shit, in spite of the fact that one only effectively gets over by WINNING clean, so if nobody wins clean, nobody gets over, right? I WANT everyone to be successful, you guys... How?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 6:56:58 GMT -5
Voted Liv as there's absolutely no reason to at least try to build her as title challenger for two months to see how it all would look. Ala Becky. I could market the heck out of that leather and turn puns from millions into billions. Same thing with Billie Kay and Peyton Royce, they have the unique goofy factor. Sonya Deville could be the new lass kickin' pride fighter guru. I'd start with those and that's not just because I happen to like them. I like them for a reason! Non of them have got so far a fair shot at fair continuous push, even if they've been sometimes in television... But herein lies a conundrum. You have named FOUR people you want to see pushed as top stars, right? That's not a problem. Hell, all of them in different branches of the division and/or on different shows. But, who do you feed them? WWE don't use straight-up enhancement talents, so it'll be a lot of those other under-utilised talents that deserve better, that'll be counting the lights for them. Take Sonya Deville, for example. She's a rising SmackDown heel, so she will need a babyface to beat... Like for example, I don't know, NAOMI!!! You see the issue here? The division is made up of a core group of talents that have been rocket-pushed to the high pedestals (Lynch, Flair, Bayley and Banks, to a lesser extent Asuka and Bliss) and everyone else is either these hard-done-by outcasts (most of those that are left)... or talents that most here wouldn't even want to see on TV AT ALL, let alone even as enhancement talent (Jax, Tamina and, for sheer staleness more than severe lack of ability, Natalya). *sigh* It's just a pile-up of shit that's been building for years where it's like... I have no solution that will make EVERYONE happy, and it breaks my goddamn heart. WWE can't write good non-title storylines, so the only way someone is seen as worth a shit at any specific time is by being one of the few people that get to hold the gold, and even THEN it's a crapshoot. Because WWE are so heavy on the dirty finish, so anyone that loses clean is seen as a loser pile of shit, in spite of the fact that one only effectively gets over by WINNING clean, so if nobody wins clean, nobody gets over, right? I WANT everyone to be successful, you guys... How? That's all WWE's fault of not choosing to combine the women division into one master ball and actually thinking of worthwhile stories in the undercards which doesn't involve sex. Pretty much all women are one big main event program away from the top spot, that's how badly everyone are booked. If this was done with the smallest effort, all of those gals plus horsewomen AND Bianca Belair plus Toni Storm for example could easily be on the top of their game. Give everything just the solid 6 months to come in place, but that's just apparently way too hard... Kind of disappointed as I seriously believe women could main event PPV's bi monthly without all of them seeming like jobbers. I think you should never take Asuka from the top spot, she can get a star match out of pretty much everyone. Add in Alexa Bliss, Nikki Cross, Io Shirai, hopefully healed Ember Moon, new signings, etc. / When the whole division is in good health, everyone will look great.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 22, 2020 8:15:44 GMT -5
If even half the stuff I hear about Dana Brooke is true it's her.
I'm not saying she should be the new Charlotte, mind you. Just "better" than where she's at.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 22, 2020 8:16:15 GMT -5
Voted Liv as there's absolutely no reason to at least try to build her as title challenger for two months to see how it all would look. Ala Becky. I could market the heck out of that leather and turn puns from millions into billions. Same thing with Billie Kay and Peyton Royce, they have the unique goofy factor. Sonya Deville could be the new lass kickin' pride fighter guru. I'd start with those and that's not just because I happen to like them. I like them for a reason! Non of them have got so far a fair shot at fair continuous push, even if they've been sometimes in television... But herein lies a conundrum. You have named FOUR people you want to see pushed as top stars, right? That's not a problem. Hell, all of them in different branches of the division and/or on different shows. But, who do you feed them? WWE don't use straight-up enhancement talents, so it'll be a lot of those other under-utilised talents that deserve better, that'll be counting the lights for them. Take Sonya Deville, for example. She's a rising SmackDown heel, so she will need a babyface to beat... Like for example, I don't know, NAOMI!!! You see the issue here? The division is made up of a core group of talents that have been rocket-pushed to the high pedestals (Lynch, Flair, Bayley and Banks, to a lesser extent Asuka and Bliss) and everyone else is either these hard-done-by outcasts (most of those that are left)... or talents that most here wouldn't even want to see on TV AT ALL, let alone even as enhancement talent (Jax, Tamina and, for sheer staleness more than severe lack of ability, Natalya). *sigh* It's just a pile-up of shit that's been building for years where it's like... I have no solution that will make EVERYONE happy, and it breaks my goddamn heart. WWE can't write good non-title storylines, so the only way someone is seen as worth a shit at any specific time is by being one of the few people that get to hold the gold, and even THEN it's a crapshoot. Because WWE are so heavy on the dirty finish, so anyone that loses clean is seen as a loser pile of shit, in spite of the fact that one only effectively gets over by WINNING clean, so if nobody wins clean, nobody gets over, right? I WANT everyone to be successful, you guys... How? You can’t. There’s your solution. Once a promoter realizes that, they can structure their show a lot easier.
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