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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 8:52:34 GMT -5
Hard to deny that that would be a great roster. With this roster, and them wanting some kind of way to differentiate between Raw and Smackdown, it's mind blowing that they don't just make one a men's show and one a women's show. It seems like it would solve most of their booking problems too, because then anyone can fight anyone, all titles could look important if unified, and there's tv time for all of it. Imma go do this in Universe mode on 2K19 now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 9:37:15 GMT -5
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Post by Dub H on Jul 22, 2020 9:39:13 GMT -5
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 22, 2020 9:40:07 GMT -5
Yes. Especially Nia. Because it isn't Nia's fault she got put out there with shitty training and a bad attitude. What is she going to do, say 'nah don't call me up yet I don't need my salary quadrupled and huge merch sales.' Big Show was a former world champion in the two biggest ever promotions in the West and still got sent back to OVW to sort his shit out. 'Better' doesn't just mean being pushed.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 22, 2020 9:49:41 GMT -5
Yes. Especially Nia. Because it isn't Nia's fault she got put out there with shitty training and a bad attitude. What is she going to do, say 'nah don't call me up yet I don't need my salary quadrupled and huge merch sales.' Big Show was a former world champion in the two biggest ever promotions in the West and still got sent back to OVW to sort his shit out. 'Better' doesn't just mean being pushed. She has been wrestling for what .6 years?Even if she was called up green that is no excuse to be as sloppy as she is.people with less training and less experience arent as sloppy
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Post by Bo Rida on Jul 22, 2020 10:00:03 GMT -5
If even half the stuff I hear about Dana Brooke is true it's her. I'm not saying she should be the new Charlotte, mind you. Just "better" than where she's at. What stuff? She always seemed a great person on breaking ground and was fun with Emma so she'd be my second choice. Don't think she's that great in the ring unless she's improved but no reason she shouldn't have something more interesting to do
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 11:13:00 GMT -5
Yes. Especially Nia. Because it isn't Nia's fault she got put out there with shitty training and a bad attitude. What is she going to do, say 'nah don't call me up yet I don't need my salary quadrupled and huge merch sales.' Big Show was a former world champion in the two biggest ever promotions in the West and still got sent back to OVW to sort his shit out. 'Better' doesn't just mean being pushed. They should maybe put Nia back in NXT for a bit, maybe even as champ, and teach her a few things. Then, when she comes back to the main roster, actually book her like a monster and hide her weaknesses. She's got potential, WWE just doesn't know how to properly book people. She should pretty much be a female Goldberg or something. Instead they want to put her in stories about her feelings getting hurt, and put her in 20 minute matches that expose her weaknesses.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Jul 22, 2020 11:26:58 GMT -5
Bianca...she’s sassy, a hell of an athlete, can go in big matches, and can cut a good promo.
Why isn’t she the top heel?
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Post by jivesoulbrah on Jul 22, 2020 11:56:26 GMT -5
Why is Charlotte even an option?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 22, 2020 12:34:07 GMT -5
Yes. Especially Nia. Because it isn't Nia's fault she got put out there with shitty training and a bad attitude. What is she going to do, say 'nah don't call me up yet I don't need my salary quadrupled and huge merch sales.' Big Show was a former world champion in the two biggest ever promotions in the West and still got sent back to OVW to sort his shit out. 'Better' doesn't just mean being pushed. She has been wrestling for what .6 years?Even if she was called up green that is no excuse to be as sloppy as she is.people with less training and less experience arent as sloppy Yes. She was called up too soon, has TV matches that aren't long and so have little chance of improving her fundamentals, has no other female monsters around to learn from, and is seemingly instructed to be reckless with others to make herself look stronger, and apparently not instructed to improve. Also 6 years is not actually that long to be wrestling at all. Again - send her to developmental. Or if this is as good as she is ever going to get, just release her. Either of those options is better than putting her our there to hurt people.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 22, 2020 14:17:28 GMT -5
I voted “other”: Stephanie McMahon
She basically invented women’s wrestling and people still shit on her.
For. Shame.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jul 22, 2020 19:53:21 GMT -5
I was so close to choosing Bianca. But Askua should not be doing that dumb dancing, and should be booked so much stronger. To me, its borderline racist how they make her act This. I much preffered serious killer Asuka in NXT. This whole "dancing crazy woman who shouts Japanese" is definitely a racial stereotype. I dunno, the dancing thing doesn't bug me b/c she's done it prior to WWE and it's kind of her thing as a lovable weirdo. What I find racist is that she carries Japanese Hand Fans for NO f***ING REASON. It added nothing to her character other than to look super racist b/c Vince is a f***ing moron who's 1950's stereotype train of thought is sorely offensive. Hell they had Kairi start carring a Wasaga around, and granted she made it work, and was a better fit for her Loki-esque hijinx than the Pirate thing, but if she was a white woman I doubt we'd see her carrying one at all. I don't see Charlotte walking around with Hand Fans. Or many fans on here for that matter.
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Post by booman on Jul 22, 2020 22:28:51 GMT -5
I was so close to choosing Bianca. But Askua should not be doing that dumb dancing, and should be booked so much stronger. To me, its borderline racist how they make her act Yes, WWE is totally the entity that's making Asuka dance. She would never have done this Japan. We can say WWE and wrestling in general is racist in a lot of ways, but Asuka's portrayal on WWE is not one of them. If anything, what we have on WWE TV right now is as close to the real person behind the makeup as we are going to get. Ok. I can see here that yes, she is dancing. However, the style of dance in WWE is very cringy to me.
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Post by MiLo Duck on Jul 23, 2020 3:06:25 GMT -5
Sonya Deville has a good promo, good matches, has a persona going that can do good as either face or heel. I knew as soon as she was paired with Rose she'd be Jannety'd.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 23, 2020 4:34:27 GMT -5
Yeah, Asuka is pretty much doing what Asuka always did. I'm reminded of a video on YouTube from about a year back which was entitled something like "Asuka doing Asuka things", and about half of it was actually pre-WWE stuff. She's always had an element of demented manic energy about her act.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jul 23, 2020 15:51:24 GMT -5
This. I much preffered serious killer Asuka in NXT. This whole "dancing crazy woman who shouts Japanese" is definitely a racial stereotype. I dunno, the dancing thing doesn't bug me b/c she's done it prior to WWE and it's kind of her thing as a lovable weirdo. What I find racist is that she carries Japanese Hand Fans for NO f***ING REASON. It added nothing to her character other than to look super racist b/c Vince is a f***ing moron who's 1950's stereotype train of thought is sorely offensive. Hell they had Kairi start carring a Wasaga around, and granted she made it work, and was a better fit for her Loki-esque hijinx than the Pirate thing, but if she was a white woman I doubt we'd see her carrying one at all. I don't see Charlotte walking around with Hand Fans. Or many fans on here for that matter. Closest was AJ Lee that one time
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 23, 2020 16:03:11 GMT -5
Closest was AJ Lee that one time And this was the moment I became an AJ Lee mark.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 16:10:59 GMT -5
Why is Charlotte even an option? This is going to sound strange, but I can kind of understand her being an option. It doesn't matter how good her matches are at this point, they've turned so many people off her with the way they've pushed her since her main roster debut that people don't even want to see her anymore.
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Post by ricreckless on Jul 23, 2020 16:21:23 GMT -5
It is gawd damn Kairi easily Should right now be the top babyface of the main roster womens divison and I have said it ever since her departure became pretty much certain that her leaving is about to create one giant f***ing hole in the womens division because while they need a whole bunch of other things fixed...the one thing they needed for certain right now is a top leading babyface woman....and there was not a single woman more suited for it than Kairi. Not to say other women cannot play babyface but Kairi shed light on how it SHOULD be played and none of the women currently on the main roster can play it to her level because Kairi is just genuinely loveable in such a way that you never want to see her hurt. I go back to this moment and this is what sealed it for me...no physical interaction between either woman yet Kairi's emotion made Shayna just sickeningly evil. I couldn't agree more. I fear our girl Io Shirai will suffer a similar fate once she gets to the main roster albeit as a heel getting over the top babyfaces. I really hope not as I am a huge Io mark. I am wearing an Io t-shirt as I type this and I never usually buy WWE merch. haha
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 16:35:55 GMT -5
It is gawd damn Kairi easily Should right now be the top babyface of the main roster womens divison and I have said it ever since her departure became pretty much certain that her leaving is about to create one giant f***ing hole in the womens division because while they need a whole bunch of other things fixed...the one thing they needed for certain right now is a top leading babyface woman....and there was not a single woman more suited for it than Kairi. Not to say other women cannot play babyface but Kairi shed light on how it SHOULD be played and none of the women currently on the main roster can play it to her level because Kairi is just genuinely loveable in such a way that you never want to see her hurt. I go back to this moment and this is what sealed it for me...no physical interaction between either woman yet Kairi's emotion made Shayna just sickeningly evil. I couldn't agree more. I fear our girl Io Shirai will suffer a similar fate once she gets to the main roster albeit as a heel getting over the top babyfaces. I really hope not as I am a huge Io mark. I am wearing an Io t-shirt as I type this and I never usually buy WWE merch. haha That is in the back of my mind with Io BUT also maybe this ends up being a blessing in disguise for Io because they have to know how close Io and Kairi are and if they want to make sure Io remains with the company when her contract comes up they will make sure not to make the same...complete misused mistake again and in turn both ladies remain in good standing with the company. And like said in another thread by mistery Io is much more career driven over Kairi...so if Io feels misused she would definetly jump ship to a rival company and immediately propel their womens division.
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