Urethra Franklin
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Aug 14, 2020 21:25:59 GMT -5
I don’t know what the hell we were supposed to make of that final segment, but Braun Strowman - your top babyface on SmackDown - was about to destroy a 5-foot-tall woman.
Just like what happened with Seth Rollins and The Miz, a feud with The Fiend has made another top babyface wholly unlikable and maybe irreparably damaged as a face.
Seemingly only Daniel Bryan has been able to escape a feud with The Fiend unscathed.
How are they so bad at this?
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Aug 14, 2020 21:28:49 GMT -5
The person at the top of WWE is a terrible human being and, like most terrible people, thinks everyone else is just as terrible.
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Post by Shark on Aug 14, 2020 21:31:51 GMT -5
The person at the top of WWE is a terrible human being and, like most terrible people, thinks everyone else is just as terrible. Sadly I've seen a lot of evidence that proves him right.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Aug 14, 2020 21:38:06 GMT -5
I don’t know what the hell we were supposed to make of that final segment, but Braun Strowman - your top babyface on SmackDown - was about to destroy a 5-foot-tall woman. Just like what happened with Seth Rollins and The Miz, a feud with The Fiend has made another top babyface wholly unlikable and maybe irreparably damaged as a face. Seemingly only Daniel Bryan has been able to escape a feud with The Fiend unscathed. How are they so bad at this? The Fiend needs to feud with a pure babyface who doesn’t scare easily. (And no, Goldberg doesn’t count) Either Big E or Keith Lee would work. Even Drew.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 14, 2020 21:40:38 GMT -5
Of course he does, he's practically the only interesting act left on the fulltime roster, so putting the Fiend alongside anybody else is just going to expose their mediocrity (and that's not a reflection on the performers, it's their stagnant presentation that keeps nearly everyone from breaking out).
I'd say turn the Fiend face and book him exactly the same, but with cocky asshole heels as the targets of his psychological and physical destruction, but they'd inevitably f*** it up and turn him into another wacky jokester reciting warmed-over Cena scripts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 21:42:54 GMT -5
In fairness, he changed Bryan too
He came back bald and clean shaven.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 21:46:20 GMT -5
I swear I think it is impossible to book a good Universal title feud. The laws of reality will not allow it.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Aug 14, 2020 21:57:17 GMT -5
He sent John Cena to Dimensional Limbo
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 14, 2020 22:15:47 GMT -5
At this point I dont know how Braun is the face or how you can get behind him at all, but also The Fiend's Alexa storyline feels really Joker/Harley Quinn which... also isn't good
It's basically a booking disaster where most are rooting for The Fiend or no one is sympathetic at all.
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Post by koreycaskets on Aug 14, 2020 22:49:53 GMT -5
Maby a false rumor but I heard this is Vince Russo's "freebie" he's talked about giving WWE, to see how his stuff would I'd go over. Current Fiend and Braun storyline.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 0:24:33 GMT -5
I’ve seen these threads before.
Seth has always been a crappy face and was being pushed like Superman beating Lesnar and Braun the months before he was put in a no win stituation vs the super hot Fiend in a hell in cell. The match was one of the worst booked things of all time. They pretty much had to give him the title and with Brock winning the title and switching shows it Seth was the odd man out, and by that point needed a heel turn to freshen him self up a bit. I’d say his crappy matches with Corbin did more damage than the Fiend.
The Miz is the worst face of all time. If it wasn’t the Fiend he would would turned anyway when Morrison came around. Miz can’t stay face longer than a year.
Braun is only champion because Roman didn’t want to work during Covid. Booking him vs the three faces of Wyatt from a booking decision made sense. The execution however is a mix bag. I’m interested enough to see how Summerslam will play out. So I would call it dead just yet.
If they booked Fiend vs. Hardy or Kofi pure babyface wrestlers like Bryan they would have been fine. I don’t see Cena being mentioned in this thread and he could show up tomorrow to comfort Orton and he wouldn’t miss a beat.
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Post by 4real on Aug 15, 2020 4:09:36 GMT -5
I’m assuming last night was a double turn. Not sure how you make The Fiend a face but we’ll see.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Aug 15, 2020 4:24:06 GMT -5
I swear I think it is impossible to book a good Universal title feud. The laws of reality will not allow it. You can change the color of the strap all you want, but at the end of the day...it's still the same cursed object it's always been.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Aug 15, 2020 4:55:34 GMT -5
I’m assuming last night was a double turn. Not sure how you make The Fiend a face but we’ll see. That's kind of the vibe I got. Continuing to book Braun as the babyface here would defy all logic, but then again, we know who writes this show.
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Post by 111111 on Aug 15, 2020 5:18:53 GMT -5
Maby a false rumor but I heard this is Vince Russo's "freebie" he's talked about giving WWE, to see how his stuff would I'd go over. Current Fiend and Braun storyline. Sounds like the sort of thing Vince Russo would put out there himself to get people talking about Vince Russo.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Aug 15, 2020 5:20:10 GMT -5
I’m assuming last night was a double turn. Not sure how you make The Fiend a face but we’ll see. That's kind of the vibe I got. Continuing to book Braun as the babyface here would defy all logic, but then again, we know who writes this show. That's what I am thinking we got a double turn.
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Post by msc on Aug 15, 2020 6:34:13 GMT -5
I never realised how much I wanted it till last night, but now I'm all for The Fiend feuding with... (spoilers for Smackdown below) {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}
AJ Styles, only he keeps getting his new nervous lackey in the way until the chap snaps and we get.... FIEND vs ABYSS!!!!
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Post by polarbearpete on Aug 15, 2020 7:50:04 GMT -5
Maby a false rumor but I heard this is Vince Russo's "freebie" he's talked about giving WWE, to see how his stuff would I'd go over. Current Fiend and Braun storyline. Where’s that rumor come from?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 8:23:05 GMT -5
Of course he does, he's practically the only interesting act left on the fulltime roster, so putting the Fiend alongside anybody else is just going to expose their mediocrity (and that's not a reflection on the performers, it's their stagnant presentation that keeps nearly everyone from breaking out). I'd say turn the Fiend face and book him exactly the same, but with cocky asshole heels as the targets of his psychological and physical destruction, but they'd inevitably f*** it up and turn him into another wacky jokester reciting warmed-over Cena scripts. This. Plus, as damaging as her title reigns on Raw were, people love Alexa. Braun would be getting the shit booed out of him right now, whether it'd be their intention or not.
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Post by toodarkmark on Aug 15, 2020 10:10:52 GMT -5
The promo reminded me of Mr. Burns laughing at Homer accepting stepping down as union boss and then Homer laughing until it made Mr. Burns stop laughing.
Also is Braun assaulting Alexa a babyface move officially?
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