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Aug 19, 2020 19:52:32 GMT -5
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Post by hulksmash87 on Aug 19, 2020 19:52:32 GMT -5
Why did they turn him on diesel in 95 and not his partner lex Luger? It didn’t really make sense. How would you have done this turn?
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Aug 19, 2020 19:57:56 GMT -5
Post by dav on Aug 19, 2020 19:57:56 GMT -5
They were setting up a feud with Lex, but the latter was already halfway out the door at that point, I believe.
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Aug 19, 2020 20:19:17 GMT -5
Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 19, 2020 20:19:17 GMT -5
IIRC, they were playing it up at the time like Bulldog and Lex might both be going heel and aligning with Mabel together. When Luger comes out to help Diesel at Summerslam '95, Vince on commentary is acting like he doesn't know whose side Lex is on.
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Aug 19, 2020 20:20:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 20:20:06 GMT -5
Man, The Allied Powers were the COOLEST team ever to seven year old me. I was crazy sad and confused when out of nowhere Lex was gone and Bulldog was a bad guy.
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Post by mrpeacock on Aug 19, 2020 20:36:13 GMT -5
Man, The Allied Powers were the COOLEST team ever to seven year old me. I was crazy sad and confused when out of nowhere Lex was gone and Bulldog was a bad guy. They had some killer music too
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 20:55:48 GMT -5
Man, The Allied Powers were the COOLEST team ever to seven year old me. I was crazy sad and confused when out of nowhere Lex was gone and Bulldog was a bad guy. They had some killer music too Luger's "Made In The U.S.A" theme was painfully slow, boring and generic.... but once they mashed-up it up with Bulldog's theme it just turned into pure awesomeness. I really wish The Allied Powers had a better run, because their theme is one of the all-time best
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Aug 20, 2020 7:18:38 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 7:18:38 GMT -5
"Smith didn't even do his major turn on Luger for fear it would hold Smith back as a potential top heel to turn on someone that the fans didn't care about."
The Observer that covered Luger's WCW move
They did do a turn on Luger at MSG 2 nights before the Diesel angle was taped and then at all the house shows after that as well but I think that was just to setup future house show matches with the two that obviously never happened.
They also had a Luger/Mabel match for Superstars with Davey doing a run in already taped that never aired.
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Aug 20, 2020 7:19:55 GMT -5
Post by auph10imitated on Aug 20, 2020 7:19:55 GMT -5
They really should have given Bulldog & Luger the tag titles, I also feel like a bigger deal should have been made of the Luger & Bulldog vs Owen & Yoko feud, in fact you cant even call it a feud can you really. But the parallels of Owen/Bulldog being family members of feuded in 1994 and Yoko/Luger having a big program in 93/94 should have made it a bigger deal than it was, and Luger & Bulldog was a top tier tag team that could have elevated the tag titles that had lost its shine in recent years. It may not have stopped Luger from jumping ship, as the money was with WCW but if the Tag Titles were on the Allied Powers in the summer of '95 they certainly would have paid better attention to Luger's contract status.
In fact, had Luger & Bulldog took the titles from Owen & Bulldog (non of whom were on the card) at Summerslam, they probably would have resigned Luger sooner and not gotten into that mess.
Then I would have made the main event of IYH a true Triple Header with Diesel & Shawn vs Owen & Yoko vs Bulldog & Luger in the first ever Triple Threat match. (which had recently been done that year by WCW & ECW)
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Aug 20, 2020 8:41:21 GMT -5
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Post by hulksmash87 on Aug 20, 2020 8:41:21 GMT -5
I would have had bulldog beat Luger at king of the ring, do a handshake after and have bulldog win the tournament. Then have him tell diesel he wants a title shot, slowly have davey turn on Luger and then get his shot at diesel at sunmerslam
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Aug 20, 2020 8:50:49 GMT -5
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Post by Milkman Norm on Aug 20, 2020 8:50:49 GMT -5
Why did they turn him on diesel in 95 and not his partner lex Luger? It didn’t really make sense. How would you have done this turn? Diesel was the champion and WWE was painfully short on main event heels by the summer of 95. Really they should have turned Razor after the HBK face turn to balance out the top talent. The whole thing was made moot a few months later anyway. But yeah, it was pretty lean in terms the players they had to use in which spots.
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Aug 20, 2020 18:46:46 GMT -5
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Aug 20, 2020 18:46:46 GMT -5
Why did they turn him on diesel in 95 and not his partner lex Luger? It didn’t really make sense. How would you have done this turn? Luger was off the show, probably signing his WCW contract....
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Aug 20, 2020 21:29:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 21:29:03 GMT -5
Even as a kid it was weird to see Lex going from having a title match at Mania X to having a throw a way tag match with Bulldog vs. the Blu Brothers the next year.
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Aug 21, 2020 1:47:40 GMT -5
Post by hassanchop on Aug 21, 2020 1:47:40 GMT -5
They really should have given Bulldog & Luger the tag titles, I also feel like a bigger deal should have been made of the Luger & Bulldog vs Owen & Yoko feud, in fact you cant even call it a feud can you really. But the parallels of Owen/Bulldog being family members of feuded in 1994 and Yoko/Luger having a big program in 93/94 should have made it a bigger deal than it was, and Luger & Bulldog was a top tier tag team that could have elevated the tag titles that had lost its shine in recent years. It may not have stopped Luger from jumping ship, as the money was with WCW but if the Tag Titles were on the Allied Powers in the summer of '95 they certainly would have paid better attention to Luger's contract status. In fact, had Luger & Bulldog took the titles from Owen & Bulldog (non of whom were on the card) at Summerslam, they probably would have resigned Luger sooner and not gotten into that mess. Then I would have made the main event of IYH a true Triple Header with Diesel & Shawn vs Owen & Yoko vs Bulldog & Luger in the first ever Triple Threat match. (which had recently been done that year by WCW & ECW) I heard that was the original plan but was changed to Smoking Gunns vs Blu Brothers to boost morale for the lower card. If Luger stayed in WWE, would Vader had stayed in WCW?
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Aug 21, 2020 6:23:23 GMT -5
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Post by auph10imitated on Aug 21, 2020 6:23:23 GMT -5
Turning Razor heel to balance the sides out post Wrestlemania makes sense. He was just cruising along, still popular but the JJ feud didn’t light the world on fire. I would have had Razor turn on the Kid post WM, then have them feud with Razor then being pushed as Diesels heel opponent at Summerslam and that way you can blow off Sid vs HBK. (Cage like they did on RAW)
Keep Bulldog babyface as tag champions with Luger and then in the fall if they still need to beef the heel side you can have either Luger or Bulldog go heel on each other.
Instead of messing around with crap like Mabel
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 9:46:10 GMT -5
Man, The Allied Powers were the COOLEST team ever to seven year old me. I was crazy sad and confused when out of nowhere Lex was gone and Bulldog was a bad guy. They had some killer music too One of the most impressive mash-up themes wrestling's ever done.
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