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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 13, 2022 11:51:31 GMT -5
Ted Dibiase, the kayfebe richest man in the world, announces his plan to set up a super team to take over the WWF. Yet despite all his wealth the best people he could find were Bundy, 47 year old Volkoff and IRS. IRS was his friend. Nikolai he just wanted to humiliate ala Virgil. Bundy? You got me. (It was cool to 14 year old me that he was finally coming back...)
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Post by SirLucas on Jul 13, 2022 12:26:32 GMT -5
For years Edge and Christian were kayfabe brothers. Then all of a sudden, the commentators stopped referring to them as brothers with no explanations. And from that point on I want to say sometime after 2002, they were always referred to as lifelong childhood friends.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 13, 2022 17:49:27 GMT -5
For years Edge and Christian were kayfabe brothers. Then all of a sudden, the commentators stopped referring to them as brothers with no explanations. And from that point on I want to say sometime after 2002, they were always referred to as lifelong childhood friends. IIRC, they basically stopped when Edge was hurt and his autobiography came out.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 14, 2022 10:17:34 GMT -5
Wasn't there a RAW where The Shield took on the entire locker room as heel and were able to overpower them, but when they were face, they were booked as if they were at a disadvantage? I wasn't fully watching at the time, but I'm almost certain something like that happened. They lost that mean streak that allowed them to beat up everybody else? On a similar note about things that don't make sense,The Shield being able to take down everyone was a lot more believable than Freaking R-Truth and Miz having the entire roster shook That would have made sense if they followed up on the conspiracy hints they were dropping. Kevin Nash attacks Punk because somebody texted him, while John Laurinaitis is always on his phone. Somebody always letting Miz and Truth back into the building. Miz and Truth are able to get passed security every time to cause havoc. And all the heels were completely united fearing for their safety of Miz and Truth, as Mark Henry was on his Hall of Pain run and the Divas of Doom are beginning their run. They were hinting that somebody behind the scenes was controlling all of this. That John Laurinaitis was taking power away from Triple H, and screwing over guys like Punk and Cena. Of course that was all for nothing, and no follow up at all.
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Post by sungod2020 on Jul 14, 2022 16:46:45 GMT -5
Ted Dibiase, the kayfebe richest man in the world, announces his plan to set up a super team to take over the WWF. Yet despite all his wealth the best people he could find were Bundy, 47 year old Volkoff and IRS. IRS was his friend. Nikolai he just wanted to humiliate ala Virgil. Bundy? You got me. (It was cool to 14 year old me that he was finally coming back...) I don't know if that would be a plothole though, King Kong Bundy was a big name in the 1980s, though his stock did fall in the last two years he was with company. Just check out the difference between Wrestlemanias 2 and 3. Went from headlining against Hulk Hogan to wrestling in a comedy six man tag match with midgets. I think it was implied though that Ted Dibiase was frugal with his money, so that would make kayfabe sense to hire a past-his-prime King Kong Bundy. His stable should've won gold to legitimize them as a threat and (kayfabe) make them money. Here's a huge plothole. Randy "Macho Man" Savage uses his finisher on Hulk Hogan to revive him in a tag team match. Why is it when everybody else takes the elbow drop, their finished, but when it's Hulk Hogan, he pops back up?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 14, 2022 18:21:25 GMT -5
IRS was his friend. Nikolai he just wanted to humiliate ala Virgil. Bundy? You got me. (It was cool to 14 year old me that he was finally coming back...) I don't know if that would be a plothole though, King Kong Bundy was a big name in the 1980s, though his stock did fall in the last two years he was with company. Just check out the difference between Wrestlemanias 2 and 3. Went from headlining against Hulk Hogan to wrestling in a comedy six man tag match with midgets. I think it was implied though that Ted Dibiase was frugal with his money, so that would make kayfabe sense to hire a past-his-prime King Kong Bundy. His stable should've won gold to legitimize them as a threat and (kayfabe) make them money. Here's a huge plothole. Randy "Macho Man" Savage uses his finisher on Hulk Hogan to revive him in a tag team match. Why is it when everybody else takes the elbow drop, their finished, but when it's Hulk Hogan, he pops back up? I’m not sure if you’ve ever seen a Hulk Hogan match, but being hit with wrestlers big moves causes him to Hulk Up.
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Post by sungod2020 on Jul 14, 2022 19:20:44 GMT -5
I don't know if that would be a plothole though, King Kong Bundy was a big name in the 1980s, though his stock did fall in the last two years he was with company. Just check out the difference between Wrestlemanias 2 and 3. Went from headlining against Hulk Hogan to wrestling in a comedy six man tag match with midgets. I think it was implied though that Ted Dibiase was frugal with his money, so that would make kayfabe sense to hire a past-his-prime King Kong Bundy. His stable should've won gold to legitimize them as a threat and (kayfabe) make them money. Here's a huge plothole. Randy "Macho Man" Savage uses his finisher on Hulk Hogan to revive him in a tag team match. Why is it when everybody else takes the elbow drop, their finished, but when it's Hulk Hogan, he pops back up? I’m not sure if you’ve ever seen a Hulk Hogan match, but being hit with wrestlers big moves causes him to Hulk Up. So if that's the case, why did any of them use their finishing moves on him if they've seen what he does from his previous matches? In Macho's case, he did it with the intent to revive him. Did he use the mistake he made in their matches to his advantage? If none of his opponents finishers can stop him, what would?
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Post by CMWaters on Jul 14, 2022 19:25:14 GMT -5
I’m not sure if you’ve ever seen a Hulk Hogan match, but being hit with wrestlers big moves causes him to Hulk Up. So if that's the case, why did any of them use their finishing moves on him if they've seen what he does from his previous matches? In Macho's case, he did it with the intent to revive him. Did he use the mistake he made in their matches to his advantage? If none of his opponents finishers can stop him, what would? Using the finisher on Hogan is a gamble. You may get lucky and get him injured enough to not do anything (most of the times this came from a sneak attack outside of a match format). However, using the finisher does run the risk of a once per match power of Hulking Up. If you can survive that though, then you have a better chance of winning with your finisher (see Warrior at Mania 6 and Rock at Mania 18). As Hogan had not used his Hulk Up yet, Savage took advantage of heel distracted by invoking a Hulk Up when he had a chance.
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Post by chrom on Jul 14, 2022 19:27:21 GMT -5
Ted Dibiase, the kayfebe richest man in the world, announces his plan to set up a super team to take over the WWF. Yet despite all his wealth the best people he could find were Bundy, 47 year old Volkoff and IRS. IRS was his friend. Nikolai he just wanted to humiliate ala Virgil. Bundy? You got me. (It was cool to 14 year old me that he was finally coming back...) Apparently the original plan for Bundy was for him to win The 95 Royal Rumble and challenge Diesel.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jul 14, 2022 19:27:38 GMT -5
2002 - HBK superkicks Brock.
2012 - Brock breaks HBK's arm. Doesn't remember this kick.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jul 16, 2022 12:53:07 GMT -5
Bobby Eaton holds on to Sting so Larry Zbyszko can hit him with a steel object. Sting gets out of the way so Larry strikes Bobby instead, giving Sting the opportunity to make Eaton submit.
Bobby Eaton caused The Dangerous Alliance the loss because he could not keep a hold of Sting for 5 seconds, yet everyone turns on Zbyszko for some reason. The poor guy was counting on Eaton, the loss was not his damn fault.
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Post by sungod2020 on Jul 19, 2022 12:49:40 GMT -5
When Spike Dudley turned heel and became Light Heavyweight Champion, his brothers Devon and Bubba Ray became his lackeys, but when he was a face, they were bullying him around. How did they all of a sudden become sub-servant to him? Did he have a secret on them that he blackmailed them with?
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Post by ppl591 on Jul 19, 2022 15:59:33 GMT -5
[quote source="/post/16686281/thread" Here's a huge plothole. Randy "Macho Man" Savage uses his finisher on Hulk Hogan to revive him in a tag team match. Why is it when everybody else takes the elbow drop, their finished, but when it's Hulk Hogan, he pops back up? As a kid I thought Macho just knew a way to lay the elbow differently as a revival tool. I know in reality it makes no sense but I like to pretend thats the kayfabe explanation
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Post by sungod2020 on Jul 19, 2022 16:15:27 GMT -5
So if that's the case, why did any of them use their finishing moves on him if they've seen what he does from his previous matches? In Macho's case, he did it with the intent to revive him. Did he use the mistake he made in their matches to his advantage? If none of his opponents finishers can stop him, what would? Using the finisher on Hogan is a gamble. You may get lucky and get him injured enough to not do anything (most of the times this came from a sneak attack outside of a match format). However, using the finisher does run the risk of a once per match power of Hulking Up. If you can survive that though, then you have a better chance of winning with your finisher (see Warrior at Mania 6 and Rock at Mania 18). As Hogan had not used his Hulk Up yet, Savage took advantage of heel distracted by invoking a Hulk Up when he had a chance. Then explain how after the match, when Vader vaderbombs him, he got right up?
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Post by CMWaters on Jul 19, 2022 16:19:36 GMT -5
Using the finisher on Hogan is a gamble. You may get lucky and get him injured enough to not do anything (most of the times this came from a sneak attack outside of a match format). However, using the finisher does run the risk of a once per match power of Hulking Up. If you can survive that though, then you have a better chance of winning with your finisher (see Warrior at Mania 6 and Rock at Mania 18). As Hogan had not used his Hulk Up yet, Savage took advantage of heel distracted by invoking a Hulk Up when he had a chance. Then explain how after the match, when Vader vaderbombs him, he got right up? The bell ringing acts as a reset button, since it was AFTER the match. So it works like this: -Match goes on, Hogan has stored Hulk Up -Savage uses elbow finisher to premature activate Hulk Up -Match ends with whatever result. The bell triggers the Hulk Up Reset -Vader uses Vaderbomb, activating another Hulk Up.
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Post by sungod2020 on Jul 21, 2022 13:03:32 GMT -5
Weren't there times when Vince McMahon was the all mighty and powerful CEO who couldn't be stopped, while other times the Board of Directors could overturn his decisions?
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jul 21, 2022 13:10:21 GMT -5
[quote source="/post/16686281/thread" Here's a huge plothole. Randy "Macho Man" Savage uses his finisher on Hulk Hogan to revive him in a tag team match. Why is it when everybody else takes the elbow drop, their finished, but when it's Hulk Hogan, he pops back up? As a kid I thought Macho just knew a way to lay the elbow differently as a revival tool. I know in reality it makes no sense but I like to pretend thats the kayfabe explanation Yeah little kid me just saw it as him knowing how to diffibulate a man with his elbow. And dammit that's cool as shit.
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Post by ppl591 on Jul 21, 2022 13:18:24 GMT -5
As a kid I thought Macho just knew a way to lay the elbow differently as a revival tool. I know in reality it makes no sense but I like to pretend thats the kayfabe explanation Yeah little kid me just saw it as him knowing how to diffibulate a man with his elbow. And dammit that's cool as shit. I couldn't have believed another wrestler being able to do that. But Macho man? No doubt in my mind he would've developed that ability.
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Post by bob on Jul 21, 2022 17:34:54 GMT -5
GTV was just dropped after like a year of being a big storyline
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 21, 2022 17:56:33 GMT -5
IRS was his friend. Nikolai he just wanted to humiliate ala Virgil. Bundy? You got me. (It was cool to 14 year old me that he was finally coming back...) Apparently the original plan for Bundy was for him to win The 95 Royal Rumble and challenge Diesel. Gross
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