So, No NXT In Survivor Series This Year?

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Kind of odd for them to announce these matches and have no NXT announcements

Only thing I can think of is they are waiting until after Halloween Havoc. If they aren't in that's a crock of shit and continues my year long annoyance of them giving NXT NO F***ING ADVERTISING TIME!!!!

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

If there's no NXT in Survivor Series this year I think that puts the fork in them as the "legitimate third brand" in WWE's eyes. They were put on cable and given a ton of push, crossover, and time, to try and take shine off AEW. That hasn't really worked, and the result seems to be WWE really starting to give less and less of a shit about NXT as a whole.

Surprisingly though, they're continuing to keep NXT on Wednesdays to screw with AEW, while at the same time, ignoring giving it advertisement or crossover appeal outside of the callips and call downs at this point? I don't understand the strategy nor the point if that's the case.

Maybe they'll announce themselves as part of Survivor Series again later, but it's not looking good.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Oct 27, 2020 3:47:18 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

If there's no NXT in Survivor Series this year I think that puts the fork in them as the "legitimate third brand" in WWE's eyes. They were put on cable and given a ton of push, crossover, and time, to try and take shine off AEW. That hasn't really worked, and the result seems to be WWE really starting to give less and less of a shit about NXT as a whole.

Surprisingly though, they're continuing to keep NXT on Wednesdays to screw with AEW, while at the same time, ignoring giving it advertisement or crossover appeal outside of the callips and call downs at this point? I don't understand the strategy nor the point if that's the case.

Maybe they'll announce themselves as part of Survivor Series again later, but it's not looking good.

Honestly, I don't give a f*** about AEW when it pertains to this convo. They are irrelevant

This is about NXT being the "third brand" because it don't matter what night they are on, if they get no advertisement it don't matter. 

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

I assumed they weren't involved due to COVID concerns and operating in different areas rather than giving up on them as third brand?

[eJm]

Oct 27, 2020 3:56:45 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

I assumed they weren't involved due to COVID concerns and operating in different areas rather than giving up on them as third brand?

I mean, it’s hard for me to be convinced that they actually have COVID concerns considering but it’s not something to entirely rule out, I guess.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Oct 27, 2020 3:52:02 GMT -5 Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) said:

Oct 27, 2020 3:47:18 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

If there's no NXT in Survivor Series this year I think that puts the fork in them as the "legitimate third brand" in WWE's eyes. They were put on cable and given a ton of push, crossover, and time, to try and take shine off AEW. That hasn't really worked, and the result seems to be WWE really starting to give less and less of a shit about NXT as a whole.

Surprisingly though, they're continuing to keep NXT on Wednesdays to screw with AEW, while at the same time, ignoring giving it advertisement or crossover appeal outside of the callips and call downs at this point? I don't understand the strategy nor the point if that's the case.

Maybe they'll announce themselves as part of Survivor Series again later, but it's not looking good.

Honestly, I don't give a f*** about AEW when it pertains to this convo. They are irrelevant

This is about NXT being the "third brand" because it don't matter what night they are on, if they get no advertisement it don't matter. 

AEW matters for a lot of shit that happens to NXT. AEW is the reason they were put on USA as "The third brand" to begin with, I'm not even comparing the shows when I mention them quality wise but what AEW does has effected what NXT has done over the past year. 

That's why it's weird to me that WWE isn't trying to push NXT hard with main roster crossover appeal and hasn't this past year since even before Mania but especially after so. The women's tag belts have stopped being defended there, outside of the Sasha match which drew huge, the WWE main roster wrestlers have stopped showing up there outside of moving up or wrestlers leaving for a career reset.

It's just weird because by all accounts WWE should care about NXT, especially if they aren't moving it to Tuesday's at the moment, so you would THINK they would WANT to try and make casuals look at the show more, but it feels like they don't give a shit right now. And if the entire point of making it a third brand was to make it competitive against another brand, they aren't exactly making people care? 

Doesn't help that when guys and girls get called up to NXT, the contrast to how they're booked and even presented is kind of dire, which feels like any viewers who watch wrestlers on the brands kinda feel like they're jipped when the wrestlers who are supposed to be on the "Legitimate third brand" have to get rebrands about them, gear and theme changes, etc. A lot of things have been odd about NXT's presentation within the last year I guess is what I'm trying to say. The show isn't bad by any means, but it feels like mixed signals are happening, especially now when NXT was such a big deal last year and this year... nothing. 

[Chiral]

I can definitely see them finding it too hard to book point totals for three brands instead of the usual two.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Oct 27, 2020 3:56:45 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

I assumed they weren't involved due to COVID concerns and operating in different areas rather than giving up on them as third brand?

Given how WWE has run things in the COVID era, that seems unlikely, however, with how they're getting cracked down on for just that, you can't exactly rule it out. 

If that were the case. It would be cool to explain that, but WWE thinks COVID is a bad word so I guess making NXT feel like an afterthought or never mentioning them at all is... better optics?

[eJm]

Oct 27, 2020 4:02:12 GMT -5 Chiral said:

I can definitely see them finding it too hard to book point totals for three brands instead of the usual two.

I mean, we found that out from last year when apparently they couldn’t just have a three way tie leading to the main event for some reason to make the main event mean something.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Oct 27, 2020 4:05:27 GMT -5 eJm said:

Oct 27, 2020 4:02:12 GMT -5 Chiral said:

I can definitely see them finding it too hard to book point totals for three brands instead of the usual two.

I mean, we found that out from last year when apparently they couldn’t just have a three way tie leading to the main event for some reason to make the main event mean something.

They can book Lana going through a table six straight weeks but they can't book a points system for one night. 

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Oct 27, 2020 4:05:27 GMT -5 eJm said:

Oct 27, 2020 4:02:12 GMT -5 Chiral said:

I can definitely see them finding it too hard to book point totals for three brands instead of the usual two.

I mean, we found that out from last year when apparently they couldn’t just have a three way tie leading to the main event for some reason to make the main event mean something.

We have also found out previously they don't even know how to have a clean sweep for Raw, because Smackdown won the pre show that time.

[eJm]

Oct 27, 2020 4:14:12 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

Oct 27, 2020 4:05:27 GMT -5 eJm said:

I mean, we found that out from last year when apparently they couldn’t just have a three way tie leading to the main event for some reason to make the main event mean something.

We have also found out previously they don't even know how to have a clean sweep for Raw, because Smackdown won the pre show that time.

It was the one time recently when I wasn’t sure The New Day hyping up that Smackdown won a match on TV was a work or a shoot.

[Moppy]

To them, NXT as a brand isn't on the same level as Raw and Smackdown. That couldn't be clearer, other than the month leading up to Survivor Series 2019 when NXT was suddenly superior and then nothing ever followed it up.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Oct 27, 2020 4:02:12 GMT -5 Chiral said:

I can definitely see them finding it too hard to book point totals for three brands instead of the usual two.

Even more so than the point totals, let's not forget how utterly clunky those three way Survivor Series tag matches were, and how they had to rush through eliminations because now they had an extra five to cycle through because of the addition of a third team. Remember WALTER last year?

Even building decent feuds for the undercard matches was clunky because everything had to be triple threats. Was there any real story development for AJ vs. Nakamura vs. Strong? Or New Day vs. Viking Raiders vs. Undisputed ERA? In comparison, we already have a nice build going for Street Profits vs. New Day based on New Day's parody of the Profits, which can breathe because they don't have to shoehorn Lorcan and Burch into the promo.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

WWE is still circumventing state travel laws so I don't buy any COVID-related justifications for this at all.

[XIII]

I’m not really sure why they don’t just stick to a traditional SS format. It allows for more character development, gets more people on the show, and helps to limit the non-stop parade of rematches. Of course then they’d have to write more stories and Vince and Brother Love butcher the bulk of the ones they’re already writing so that’s a problem. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Wieners=$$$]

At this year's Survivor Series, the role of NXT will be played by Retribution.

For some reason.

[King (Super) Dragunov]

They're going to deny us Asuka and (hopefully) Io in the same ring together because we can't have nice things.

[Bang Bang Bart]

My only real issue with the brand warfare stuff is the lack of any real stakes other than “bragging rights”.

[MrElijah]

Oct 27, 2020 4:19:22 GMT -5 eJm said:

Oct 27, 2020 4:14:12 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

We have also found out previously they don't even know how to have a clean sweep for Raw, because Smackdown won the pre show that time.

It was the one time recently when I wasn’t sure The New Day hyping up that Smackdown won a match on TV was a work or a shoot.

It's amazing how much New Day has kinda got their jabs in/not giving a shit about creative over the years.