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Post by cjh on Nov 9, 2020 14:30:15 GMT -5
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Nov 9, 2020 14:42:56 GMT -5
Leave implies he wanted to go...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2020 14:44:36 GMT -5
I can honestly say I didn't know he was still with them.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 9, 2020 14:49:52 GMT -5
We should be coming up on another quarterly report blowing last year's numbers out of the water, shouldn't we?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 9, 2020 14:56:28 GMT -5
I honestly didn't know he was still there
Edge isn't going to like this
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Post by Legion on Nov 9, 2020 14:57:57 GMT -5
We should be coming up on another quarterly report blowing last year's numbers out of the water, shouldn't we? Came out on the 29th October: Revenue was $221.6 million, an increase of 19% or $35.3 million Operating income was $63.4 million, an increase of nearly 9x or $57.0 million Adjusted OIBDA1 was $84.3 million, an increase of more than 2x or $58.9 million WWE ThunderDome debuted at the Amway Center in Orlando, Florida. It provides an interactive virtual experience for WWE fans and recreates the in-arena atmosphere (WWE has not performed an event with ticketed fans since mid-March 2020) WWE Network average paid subscribers2 were 1.6 million, an increase of 6% Digital video views were 9.2 billion, an increase of 3%, and hours consumed were 342 million, an increase of 3%, across digital and social media platforms3 eCommerce revenue was $9.1 million, an increase of 60%, offsetting the loss of venue merchandise sales due to 74 fewer events in the quarter They appear to actually lose money or at least not make as much profit when they tour. Which begs the question why they bother, which in turn supports why live event related staff are the ones being let go. Back during the last call they queried if they would return to having as many live events even when the world get back to 'normal' so it may be those jobs just aren't there now, and wont be there in the future, so there isnt a need to keep people around. Sure, that sucks if you are the one cut, but businesses restructure all the time, and making a profit doesn't mean you keep people around if their jobs are surplus to requirements.
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Post by Fundertaker on Nov 9, 2020 14:58:55 GMT -5
No more Rated R Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooopataaaaaaaaaaar!
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 9, 2020 15:08:44 GMT -5
We should be coming up on another quarterly report blowing last year's numbers out of the water, shouldn't we? Came out on the 29th October: Revenue was $221.6 million, an increase of 19% or $35.3 million Operating income was $63.4 million, an increase of nearly 9x or $57.0 million Adjusted OIBDA1 was $84.3 million, an increase of more than 2x or $58.9 million WWE ThunderDome debuted at the Amway Center in Orlando, Florida. It provides an interactive virtual experience for WWE fans and recreates the in-arena atmosphere (WWE has not performed an event with ticketed fans since mid-March 2020) WWE Network average paid subscribers2 were 1.6 million, an increase of 6% Digital video views were 9.2 billion, an increase of 3%, and hours consumed were 342 million, an increase of 3%, across digital and social media platforms3 eCommerce revenue was $9.1 million, an increase of 60%, offsetting the loss of venue merchandise sales due to 74 fewer events in the quarter They appear to actually lose money or at least not make as much profit when they tour. Which begs the question why they bother, which in turn supports why live event related staff are the ones being let go. Back during the last call they queried if they would return to having as many live events even when the world get back to 'normal' so it may be those jobs just aren't there now, and wont be there in the future, so there isnt a need to keep people around. Sure, that sucks if you are the one cut, but businesses restructure all the time, and making a profit doesn't mean you keep people around if their jobs are surplus to requirements. Even if they reduce their live events they still need someone in charge of venue merchandise. Vince has actively paid people to sit at home and do nothing before. Vince has, even before these financial windfalls, actively extended the contracts of people who should have been allowed to leave and decided to not let them leave, and instead pay out their downside even longer to actively do nothing, provide no benefit to the company, and not return in the future to resume a role that just couldn't be filled at this moment. So trying to rationalize this with business sense is, just like it was in the last thread, really not something that tracks with WWE as a reasonable decision reasonable companies make in reasonable conditions. Vince picks and chooses when it's convenient to keep wasting money and when it's convenient to shore up any dime he can. That's ghoul shit.
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Post by Hypnosis on Nov 9, 2020 15:17:17 GMT -5
It's going to feel SOOOOOPER weird without him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2020 15:17:58 GMT -5
Damn. Chimmel was a trooper and a veteran. From what I've understood over the years, he was a behind the scenes everyman who did all sorts of things for them. A friend of Gino "Gorilla Monsoon" Marella's family This part. ......if you think the WWF of old is still there.... it is not. It is gone. Oh, this part speaks volumes to me.
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Post by fw91 on Nov 9, 2020 15:18:06 GMT -5
Never like to see like to see long time employees be let go. I was pretty upset they released Mike Chioda in April
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Post by XIII on Nov 9, 2020 15:21:11 GMT -5
Damn. Chimmel was a trooper and a veteran. From what I've understood over the years, he was a behind the scenes everyman who did all sorts of things for them. A friend of Gino "Gorilla Monsoon" Marella's family This part. ......if you think the WWF of old is still there.... it is not. It is gone. Oh, this part speaks volumes to me. Don’t worry, Road Dogg is the new James Dudley.
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Post by ThereIsNoAbsurdistOnlyZuul on Nov 9, 2020 15:27:00 GMT -5
We should be coming up on another quarterly report blowing last year's numbers out of the water, shouldn't we? Activision tactics, hm?
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Nov 9, 2020 15:35:38 GMT -5
Edge is going to tell them you book Chimmel for the nights I show up or I don't f***ing show up.
To be honest I had assumed he does that anyway, I didn't know Chimmel still worked there.
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Post by Legion on Nov 9, 2020 15:51:06 GMT -5
Came out on the 29th October: Revenue was $221.6 million, an increase of 19% or $35.3 million Operating income was $63.4 million, an increase of nearly 9x or $57.0 million Adjusted OIBDA1 was $84.3 million, an increase of more than 2x or $58.9 million WWE ThunderDome debuted at the Amway Center in Orlando, Florida. It provides an interactive virtual experience for WWE fans and recreates the in-arena atmosphere (WWE has not performed an event with ticketed fans since mid-March 2020) WWE Network average paid subscribers2 were 1.6 million, an increase of 6% Digital video views were 9.2 billion, an increase of 3%, and hours consumed were 342 million, an increase of 3%, across digital and social media platforms3 eCommerce revenue was $9.1 million, an increase of 60%, offsetting the loss of venue merchandise sales due to 74 fewer events in the quarter They appear to actually lose money or at least not make as much profit when they tour. Which begs the question why they bother, which in turn supports why live event related staff are the ones being let go. Back during the last call they queried if they would return to having as many live events even when the world get back to 'normal' so it may be those jobs just aren't there now, and wont be there in the future, so there isnt a need to keep people around. Sure, that sucks if you are the one cut, but businesses restructure all the time, and making a profit doesn't mean you keep people around if their jobs are surplus to requirements. Even if they reduce their live events they still need someone in charge of venue merchandise. Vince has actively paid people to sit at home and do nothing before. Vince has, even before these financial windfalls, actively extended the contracts of people who should have been allowed to leave and decided to not let them leave, and instead pay out their downside even longer to actively do nothing, provide no benefit to the company, and not return in the future to resume a role that just couldn't be filled at this moment. So trying to rationalize this with business sense is, just like it was in the last thread, really not something that tracks with WWE as a reasonable decision reasonable companies make in reasonable conditions. Vince picks and chooses when it's convenient to keep wasting money and when it's convenient to shore up any dime he can. That's ghoul shit. Talent, who could go off and make money for competition is not the same as back office staff no one has ever heard of. That is how Vince would justify your example. Chimel and the merchandise manager are unlikely to go and make AEW, Impact/TNA or the NWA or whoever money. From the point of view of trying to stifle competition, there is the chance he makes more money from the share of people willing to spend money on the product than potentially lose some of that money from people being interested in someone he's paying to sit at home just because he can't or wont figure out how to use them.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 9, 2020 16:12:47 GMT -5
Even if they reduce their live events they still need someone in charge of venue merchandise. Vince has actively paid people to sit at home and do nothing before. Vince has, even before these financial windfalls, actively extended the contracts of people who should have been allowed to leave and decided to not let them leave, and instead pay out their downside even longer to actively do nothing, provide no benefit to the company, and not return in the future to resume a role that just couldn't be filled at this moment. So trying to rationalize this with business sense is, just like it was in the last thread, really not something that tracks with WWE as a reasonable decision reasonable companies make in reasonable conditions. Vince picks and chooses when it's convenient to keep wasting money and when it's convenient to shore up any dime he can. That's ghoul shit. Talent, who could go off and make money for competition is not the same as back office staff no one has ever heard of. That is how Vince would justify your example. Chimel and the merchandise manager are unlikely to go and make AEW, Impact/TNA or the NWA or whoever money. From the point of view of trying to stifle competition, there is the chance he makes more money from the share of people willing to spend money on the product than potentially lose some of that money from people being interested in someone he's paying to sit at home just because he can't or wont figure out how to use them. You're right. That is how Vince McMahon would justify why he can manage to be a ghoul by forcing people to stay in a job, and be a ghoul by cutting other people from a job. I didn't need to understand his reasoning for it, I know his reasonings for it. My post is a condemnation of the demented double standard that it enables.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Nov 9, 2020 16:16:33 GMT -5
Even if they reduce their live events they still need someone in charge of venue merchandise. Vince has actively paid people to sit at home and do nothing before. Vince has, even before these financial windfalls, actively extended the contracts of people who should have been allowed to leave and decided to not let them leave, and instead pay out their downside even longer to actively do nothing, provide no benefit to the company, and not return in the future to resume a role that just couldn't be filled at this moment. So trying to rationalize this with business sense is, just like it was in the last thread, really not something that tracks with WWE as a reasonable decision reasonable companies make in reasonable conditions. Vince picks and chooses when it's convenient to keep wasting money and when it's convenient to shore up any dime he can. That's ghoul shit. Talent, who could go off and make money for competition is not the same as back office staff no one has ever heard of. That is how Vince would justify your example. Chimel and the merchandise manager are unlikely to go and make AEW, Impact/TNA or the NWA or whoever money. From the point of view of trying to stifle competition, there is the chance he makes more money from the share of people willing to spend money on the product than potentially lose some of that money from people being interested in someone he's paying to sit at home just because he can't or wont figure out how to use them. But these are things that wouldn't stand if WWE was truly a public company, and not a McMahon Family trust that the public can buy into.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 9, 2020 16:26:02 GMT -5
Tony only being 53 blows my freakin' mind
He's been around so long I was expecting him to be between 60-70
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Post by Cyno on Nov 9, 2020 16:28:00 GMT -5
Thread title is deceptive. It implies Tony Chimel left WWE voluntarily. He was let go.
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Post by agent817 on Nov 9, 2020 16:31:25 GMT -5
No more "Jeeeehhhh-Aaaahnnnn Ceeeeenaaaa!"?
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