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Post by Spider2024 on Jan 30, 2021 20:16:51 GMT -5
In the Star Wars canon timeline, that is.
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Post by Hurbster on Jan 30, 2021 20:24:22 GMT -5
Isn't the High Republic setting a few hundred years BBY?
And bits of SWTOR/KOTOR are canon, like Revan and the Mandalore Wars.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 30, 2021 21:34:46 GMT -5
The history of the Darksaber is both canon and definitely occurs well before Ep 1. Darth Bane is canon as well. You also get to see the after effects of an ancient battle on Malachor, which makes that battle canon.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 30, 2021 21:56:53 GMT -5
As for actual media, the High Republic Stuff coming out takes place a couple hundred years before Episode I. There's also a story in a collection of short stories called Dark Legends that has Sith Lords named Darth Noctyss and Darth Sanguis, but it's unknown where on the timeline they'd be besides "before Darth Plaugeis."
Other earlier events mentioned precede the prequels by several thousand years, but I don't think there's any actual media about them besides mentions in the movies, shows like Clone Wars and Rebels, or canon supplementary material from the movies. Like the Sith palace on Exogol is ancient and a feature on the planet is named after Naga Sadow from the Tales of the Jedi comics. Sadow in Legends was Dark Lord of the Sith 5000 years before the movies.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Jan 31, 2021 0:12:28 GMT -5
KOTOR is a few thousand years prior to episode 1. Even though all the technology in it is exactly the same
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 31, 2021 1:13:20 GMT -5
KOTOR is a few thousand years prior to episode 1. Even though all the technology in it is exactly the same KOTOR itself is not canon. |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Feb 1, 2021 1:35:48 GMT -5
KOTOR is a few thousand years prior to episode 1. Even though all the technology in it is exactly the same KOTOR itself is not canon. Yes, it may be important to point out when Disney bought Star Wars it basically forced everything not established in the films as "legends". So stuff not confirmed to be true until Disney establishes it in their universe. So bits and pieces are being plucked from the books and comics for Disney like Thrawn. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 1, 2021 2:52:35 GMT -5
KOTOR itself is not canon. Yes, it may be important to point out when Disney bought Star Wars it basically forced everything not established in the films as "legends". So stuff not confirmed to be true until Disney establishes it in their universe. So bits and pieces are being plucked from the books and comics for Disney like Thrawn. It's also not the first time it's happened. George threw out a bunch of stuff when he made Episode 1 and moved it into the non-canon bin when he setup the old more complicated "Canon Tier"... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 3:30:55 GMT -5
I feel like when it comes to stuff like this you're probably best off just treating everything not actually in the core material as non-canon and to be prepared to write off any parts of earlier stuff as such as well if something later reworks or contradicts it severely enough.
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Post by adamclark52 on Feb 1, 2021 4:36:21 GMT -5
The High Republic is set a few hundred years before the movies
But it’s turned Kathleen Kennedy’s narrative up to “15”
They’re trying to villianize Yoda for not allowing Jedi to love who they want.
Yoda
In a bad light
f*** off
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Post by thechase on Feb 1, 2021 7:05:44 GMT -5
KOTOR is a few thousand years prior to episode 1. Even though all the technology in it is exactly the same KOTOR itself is not canon. Will that also be printed on a t-shirt the same as "Last Jedi isn't canon" was?  |
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Feb 1, 2021 9:05:55 GMT -5
That durn Kathleen Kennedy, she the Debbil!
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 1, 2021 11:47:10 GMT -5
The High Republic is set a few hundred years before the movies But it’s turned Kathleen Kennedy’s narrative up to “15” They’re trying to villianize Yoda for not allowing Jedi to love who they want. Yoda In a bad light f*** off This isn't a new thing, it's establishing the seeds of what led to the ultimate end of the Jedi Order in the prequels. Yoda came to realise all too late he'd led the Jedi into being too arrogant and dogmatic, allowing the Sith to rise up right under their noses. Yoda's entire thing pre-OT was he was an out-of-touch old fart who Palpatine was able to play like a fiddle, so it makes sense to incorporate aspects of that into his High Republic character. |
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Post by Cyno on Feb 1, 2021 14:02:28 GMT -5
I love it when Star Wars "fans" get angry about something that's been a thing for literal decades like it's some fresh new outrage.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 1, 2021 14:37:55 GMT -5
I love it when Star Wars "fans" get angry about something that's been a thing for literal decades like it's some fresh new outrage. Anakin and Padmé married in secret because of that particular rule, and Yoda opposed Anakin's training from the start because his bond with his mother was too strong. Even the first KoTOR has a character who had essentially severed ties with the Jedi Order over not being allowed to love who he wanted to love. Yoda might have been a bit less set in his ways in his youth, but we've never seen him depicted as a young Jedi. The High Republic might be set 200 years before the prequels, but he's still what amounts to an old man in his species. |
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Post by Cyno on Feb 1, 2021 14:45:07 GMT -5
I love it when Star Wars "fans" get angry about something that's been a thing for literal decades like it's some fresh new outrage. Anakin and Padmé married in secret because of that particular rule, and Yoda opposed Anakin's training from the start because his bond with his mother was too strong. Even the first KoTOR has a character who had essentially severed ties with the Jedi Order over not being allowed to love who he wanted to love. Yoda might have been a bit less set in his ways in his youth, but we've never seen him depicted as a young Jedi. The High Republic might be set 200 years before the prequels, but he's still what amounts to an old man in his species. Yeah, instead of 900 years old, he's 700 years old give or take a few. It's not like he's some fresh-faced Jedi Knight. He's younger, but he's been one of the most senior members of the Jedi Order for centuries during the High Republic timeframe.
He was even hesitant to teach Luke until Obi-Wan's Force Ghost pushed him to do it. It's funny because Obi-Wan was always thought of as a traditionalist, but between Clone Wars and Episode III, I think he had more of Qui-Gon's rebellious streak develop in him. IIRC, he envisioned a future Jedi Order where he and Jedi Master Anakin could reform things for the better and get in touch more with the greater galaxy.
The state of the Jedi Order matched that of the old Republic: a slow decline of its own making. All it took was for one Sith Lord playing the long game to unravel both.
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Post by adamclark52 on Feb 1, 2021 14:57:34 GMT -5
Those quotation marks around the word fans really got me thinking about myself and my fandom. I guess it’s time to move on to something else as I’ve been wasting my time.
Is Star Trek accepting resumes?
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Post by Cyno on Feb 1, 2021 15:06:29 GMT -5
Those quotation marks around the word fans really got me thinking about myself and my fandom. I guess it’s time to move on to something else as I’ve been wasting my time. Is Star Trek accepting resumes? You seem to hate commentary on social justice in your fiction so I don't think Star Trek would work out for you. It's been doing that since 1966. |
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Post by adamclark52 on Feb 1, 2021 15:09:39 GMT -5
Those quotation marks around the word fans really got me thinking about myself and my fandom. I guess it’s time to move on to something else as I’ve been wasting my time. Is Star Trek accepting resumes? You seem to hate commentary on social justice in your fiction so I don't think Star Trek would work out for you. It's been doing that since 1966. Guess I’d better apply to Vikings or something then |
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