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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 12, 2021 5:23:28 GMT -5
Sunday February 21, 2021 WWE Thunderdome at Tropicana Field - St. Petersburg, FL SCHEDULED MATCHESELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH FOR THE WWE CHAMPIONSHIPDrew McIntyre (c) v AJ Styles v Jeff Hardy v Kofi Kingston v Randy Orton v Sheamus--- WWE UNIVERSAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCHRoman Reigns (c) v Winner of #1 Universal Contender Elimination Chamber Match --- #1 UNIVERSAL CONTENDER ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCHCesaro v Daniel Bryan v Jey Uso v Kevin Owens v King Corbin v Sami Zayn--- TRIPLE THREAT MATCH FOR THE WWE UNITED STATES CHAMPIONSHIPBobby Lashley (c) v Keith Lee v Riddle--- WWE WOMEN'S TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCHNia Jax and Shayna Baszler (c) v WWE SmackDown Women's Champion Sasha Banks and Bianca BelairAnnounced matches may change without notice
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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 12, 2021 11:07:30 GMT -5
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Post by mistery on Feb 12, 2021 15:10:39 GMT -5
Man, I cannot help but feel they are gonna put the RAW Women's Title on Lacey at Elimination Chamber, despite every single metric saying its a really bad idea.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 12, 2021 15:29:38 GMT -5
Man, I cannot help but feel they are gonna put the RAW Women's Title on Lacey at Elimination Chamber, despite every single metric saying its a really bad idea. To make the Charlotte-Lacey blowoff at Mania a title match I assume? I can see that.
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Post by mistery on Feb 12, 2021 15:35:37 GMT -5
Man, I cannot help but feel they are gonna put the RAW Women's Title on Lacey at Elimination Chamber, despite every single metric saying its a really bad idea. To make the Charlotte-Lacey blowoff at Mania a title match I assume? I can see that. Yup, and I cannot see that match going over well with a live audience, considering the last time they wrestled in front of an actual live audience, the crowd was chanting "you can't wrestle", "AEW", "CM Punk", and "Stop this match" during it. It will also just serve to piss fans off even more (and generate more ire towards both Charlotte and Lacey) considering Asuka will get shoved to the side and her ceiling will almost certainly be the pre-show battle royal where she's eliminated by Carmella or something. Despite the fact that she was a major player during the pandemic and helped keep the company afloat during the lowest points of the pandemic.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 12, 2021 21:14:38 GMT -5
Is there enough former Ric Flair wives to have a chamber match?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 13, 2021 11:25:22 GMT -5
This PPV sucks from a mental health standpoint. Last year, this was the last PPV before everything went to shit, and now a year later we're so far in the shit that Mania having a reduced crowd STILL seems like a terrible idea.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Feb 13, 2021 13:26:49 GMT -5
Is there enough former Ric Flair wives to have a chamber match? Well according to his wiki page there are 5. Add Lacey Evans to it and there you go
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Post by deviljatt86 on Feb 13, 2021 16:29:34 GMT -5
Although I love Elimination Chamber matches and both Chambers are filled with great wrestlers, from a story line point of view, the Smackdown one makes no sense, as why Adam Pearce is okay with making the winner fight on the same night, against a fresh Roman. That's something a GM that's in the pocket of Roman would do. Like I mentioned in another thread, Pearce should name a challenger to face Roman at Elimination Chamber in singles match, while the Elimination Chamber determines a challenger for the title at Fastlane. On the RAW side, having Drew defend the title in the Chamber makes sense, the chosen wrestlers don't make sense from a storyline perspective, expect AJ and Sheamus, and maybe Randy Orton, because he is RANDY ORTON, even though he has been beaten Drew many many times. You can also kind of play off on the fact that Randy is the only one, besides Roman, to beat Drew, since the Rumble 2020. But the annoying thing about Drew defending his title in the Elimination Chamber is the fact that Sheamus turned heel for nothing. Why not have Drew eliminate Sheamus in the Chamber, and that be the catalyst that pissed Sheamus off and causes Sheamus to betray Drew. Going into the Chamber, Drew and Sheamus act like they will stay as a team until they two are the final two and then fight amongst themselves, kind of how HHH and Batista planned in 2005. But on the day, Drew sees an opportunity and claymores Sheamus, eliminating him before the final two. Its a dick move, but since its every man for himself, its not a heel turn, but Sheamus can take it as a betrayal and be a heel but still have a valid point. However, the way WWE did it, Sheamus basically betrayed him for a title shot, which he would have gotten anyways.
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Post by adamclark52 on Feb 13, 2021 22:49:28 GMT -5
No Women’s Chamber!?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 2:35:09 GMT -5
It really says a lot about the current state of the women's divisions that having a match to determine who gets to lose to Roman in a pointless filler match is more important than giving one of thema spotlight.
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Post by mistery on Feb 14, 2021 9:24:02 GMT -5
It really says a lot about the current state of the women's divisions that having a match to determine who gets to lose to Roman in a pointless filler match is more important than giving one of thema spotlight. Hey now, they are almost certainly going to put the title on Lacey at this PPV, so they have an excuse to continue this incredibly awful Charlotte/Lacey feud, but now there is a title at stake!!! This time it will definitely get Charlotte over, yes sir! Nevermind the fact that this Charlotte/Lacey feud is absolutely horrendous, on top of Lacey being one of the worst all around performers in the company right now. The only woman I would say is worse than her is Nia. If they run the Charlotte/Lacey feud all the way to Wrestlemania, the audience is going to (rightfully) dump all over it (due to the feud being awful, and Asuka getting screwed over again), and it will easily be one of the worst matches of the show.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 14, 2021 9:52:32 GMT -5
It really says a lot about the current state of the women's divisions that having a match to determine who gets to lose to Roman in a pointless filler match is more important than giving one of thema spotlight. Hey now, they are almost certainly going to put the title on Lacey at this PPV, so they have an excuse to continue this incredibly awful Charlotte/Lacey feud, but now there is a title at stake!!! This time it will definitely get Charlotte over, yes sir! Nevermind the fact that this Charlotte/Lacey feud is absolutely horrendous, on top of Lacey being one of the worst all around performers in the company right now. The only woman I would say is worse than her is Nia. If they run the Charlotte/Lacey feud all the way to Wrestlemania, the audience is going to (rightfully) dump all over it (due to the feud being awful, and Asuka getting screwed over again), and it will easily be one of the worst matches of the show. I think the Charlotte - Lacey feud is interesting and entertaining so far. We can use some outrageous feuds from time to time instead of the usual boring tropes and Ric can still cut a hell of a promo for his age. Not sure it needs the title since there are two nights and they can easily fit it on the card as a non-title match too, but I wouldn’t be too upset.
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Post by mistery on Feb 14, 2021 12:11:52 GMT -5
Hey now, they are almost certainly going to put the title on Lacey at this PPV, so they have an excuse to continue this incredibly awful Charlotte/Lacey feud, but now there is a title at stake!!! This time it will definitely get Charlotte over, yes sir! Nevermind the fact that this Charlotte/Lacey feud is absolutely horrendous, on top of Lacey being one of the worst all around performers in the company right now. The only woman I would say is worse than her is Nia. If they run the Charlotte/Lacey feud all the way to Wrestlemania, the audience is going to (rightfully) dump all over it (due to the feud being awful, and Asuka getting screwed over again), and it will easily be one of the worst matches of the show. I think the Charlotte - Lacey feud is interesting and entertaining so far. We can use some outrageous feuds from time to time instead of the usual boring tropes and Ric can still cut a hell of a promo for his age. Not sure it needs the title since there are two nights and they can easily fit it on the card as a non-title match too, but I wouldn’t be too upset. There is pretty much zero chance it doesn't involve the title. Charlotte doesn't have non-title matches at Wrestlemania.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 14, 2021 13:14:19 GMT -5
I think the Charlotte - Lacey feud is interesting and entertaining so far. We can use some outrageous feuds from time to time instead of the usual boring tropes and Ric can still cut a hell of a promo for his age. Not sure it needs the title since there are two nights and they can easily fit it on the card as a non-title match too, but I wouldn’t be too upset. There is pretty much zero chance it doesn't involve the title. Charlotte doesn't have non-title matches at Wrestlemania. Well I mean when there’s one night of Mania, are any women’s matches usually non-title? With two nights, they could do it differently.
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Post by T-Bone on Feb 15, 2021 12:07:03 GMT -5
Why do we have to have the Chamber match this time of year? The two PPVs between the Rumble and Mania has very little stakes and serve to preserve the status quo.
Heck, the last time a defending champion lost in the Chamber was in 2017! 3 years and no meaningful status quo altering matches! What is the point??
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 15, 2021 12:29:39 GMT -5
Why do we have to have the Chamber match this time of year? The two PPVs between the Rumble and Mania has very little stakes and serve to preserve the status quo. Heck, the last time a defending champion lost in the Chamber was in 2017! 3 years and no meaningful status quo altering matches! What is the point?? Chamber has changed the stakes of Mania countless times. Why only look back the past few years when it’s been around over a decade? Things should not be status quo from January to April, that would be boring.
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Post by deviljatt86 on Feb 15, 2021 15:12:04 GMT -5
So, I was thinking about the title pictures and Edge's Rumble win heading into Wrestlemania, and I'm hoping that instead Roman defending it against Edge, have him defend it against Daniel Bryan. So, what I would do is, at Elimination Chamber have Lashley lose the US title to Keith Lee, and Drew retain. And then Lashley goes on to challenge Drew at Wrestlemania, and win the title, ending Drew's year of dominance, and continuing his own. He continues to hold the title for a long time. Then after fans are allowed to pack arenas again, have Lashley face off against Brock, hopefully Summerslam 2021, but next year's Wrestlemania works too, with the story being that Lashley beat the man who wiped the floor with Brock. On the Smackdown side, I would have Daniel win the Elimination Chamber, and give Roman a hell of a fight, with Roman eventually retaining. Then at Fastlane, get screwed out of a title shot, and have Roman defend against someone else. But at Wrestlemania, Roman has nowhere to run and Daniel beats him for the title. On the NXT side, I would have Edge pick to challenge Finn Balor at Wrestlemania. This helps make NXT the third brand, and the NXT title seem important, like they tried last year with Charlotte and Rhea. But this time, I would have Finn retain and go on to lose to Kyle O'Reily, who I would have face Adam Cole at Wrestlemania. I think a 1 on 1 feud works better for Cole and KOR, instead of a triple threat against Finn. These matches are better, because it helps establish NXT as being on the same level as Smackdown and RAW, gives Daniel Bryan a run with the top belt that he deserves, and all three matches will be must-sees in my opinion
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Post by T-Bone on Feb 15, 2021 15:39:05 GMT -5
Why do we have to have the Chamber match this time of year? The two PPVs between the Rumble and Mania has very little stakes and serve to preserve the status quo. Heck, the last time a defending champion lost in the Chamber was in 2017! 3 years and no meaningful status quo altering matches! What is the point?? Chamber has changed the stakes of Mania countless times. Why only look back the past few years when it’s been around over a decade? Things should not be status quo from January to April, that would be boring. Not countless. 3 times. 3 times in the history of this PPV out of 11 tries has the champion failed to defend their title. The Champion retains 72% of the time. It's a waste of time most years as it just serves to preserve the status quo.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 15, 2021 19:54:34 GMT -5
Chamber has changed the stakes of Mania countless times. Why only look back the past few years when it’s been around over a decade? Things should not be status quo from January to April, that would be boring. Not countless. 3 times. 3 times in the history of this PPV out of 11 tries has the champion failed to defend their title. The Champion retains 72% of the time. It's a waste of time most years as it just serves to preserve the status quo. It’s also been used as a Mania number 1 contender’s match. And the PPV was called No Way Out prior to 2010 and also had big implications with Chamber matches. 2008: both number 1 contenders for Mania determined 2009: both world titles changed hands in Chamber 2010: both world titles changes hands in Chamber 2011: number 1 contender for Mania world title determined in Chamber 2013: number 1 contender for Mania world title determined in Chamber 2015 : chamber matches were for tag and IC 2016: no Chamber PPV 2017: world title changed hands in Chamber 2018: number 1 contender for Mania world title determined in Chamber 2020: number 1 contender for women’s world title match determined in Chamber
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