Is there a staler character on TV right now than The Miz?

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He's been on primetime TV wrestling for 15 years straight and when he's not wrestling he has his own talk show segment. Hell, sometimes he does both on one show. He's been all over Raw, Smackdown, ECW, NXT (original version). He never gets injured. Never takes any significant time off. Even when he films those Marine movies he usually just skips house shows and still does TV. I think there was maybe one of them where he actually took a whole month off. All of these are reasons why he's so valuable to WWE but they're also reasons as to why he goes through these spells like the past year or so where he's just going through the motions and adding nothing to the product. Who could possibly care about The Miz or his MITB briefcase right now?

It would take a braver person than I to do it, but if you were to somehow calculate which person (excluding commentators) have been on TV for the most combined hours/days over the last 15-20 years I feel like he might be on top. All the other contenders (Undertaker, HHH, McMahons, Cena, Orton, Edge, Jericho, Mysterio) either eventually retired, started only appearing a few times a year, missed a ton of time due to injuries or took breaks from the company for other reasons. Ziggler and Kofi are the only ones I can think of who have been as omnipresent as Miz throughout all those years but they didn't have the lengthy talking segments most weeks like Miz does. In TV years he may as well be 100 years old.

He's only 40 and works a style that should let him go for a good while longer yet. I think he'd really benefit from a break though. If he was gone for a couple of years and made a surprise return in a Royal Rumble I think he'd get a huge pop when the sounds of "AWESOME" blared through the arena and it would probably set him up to get a decent push out of that newly found momentum and freshness.

[1 Free Moon-Down with Burger]

I really wish the dude would add.....anything to his act. It’s been exactly the same forever.

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He's always been a guy playing wrestler.

Everyone marked for his promo on Talking Smack, but I just found his cry face cringe worthy. In the end Brian was right about everything he said.

Miz probably thinks he should have been champion 10 times by now and starred in at least three major blockbusters.

He's the worst face ever and I would stop watching if he cashed in MITB.

I wish John Morrison was getting a decent run instead of being paired with the Miz. The guy has only been back a year but it feels like he never left and he's just as stale as the Miz.

[Starshine]

The thing I've learned about Miz in the past few years, is the guy heavily relies on other acts and props to keep himself relevant, and probably moreso than anyone else in the comepany. Just to elaborate, in the past 5 years he's had the long IC title reigns, Maryse, The B Team, Shane McMahon, John Morrison, The current MITB shit. If he hasn't got some sort of co-star or notable prop to bounce off of, he completely flounders on his own.

[Hypnosis]

Split up Miz and Morrison, and have Miz manage a younger heel from NXT.

Morrison gets a main event push on Raw.

[Shark]

I see you and I raise you


I've eaten 6 month old crackers that were less stale than Dolph Ziggler.

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Feb 12, 2021 16:29:20 GMT -5 Starshine said:

The thing I've learned about Miz in the past few years, is the guy heavily relies on other acts and props to keep himself relevant, and probably moreso than anyone else in the comepany. Just to elaborate, in the past 5 years he's had the long IC title reigns, Maryse, The B Team, Shane McMahon, John Morrison, The current MITB shit. If he hasn't got some sort of co-star or notable prop to bounce off of, he completely flounders on his own.

A big example of that being The Mizdow stuff. I don't know if it's good or bad, just saying.

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Feb 12, 2021 16:37:49 GMT -5 Shark said:

I see you and I raise you


I've eaten 6 month old crackers that were less stale than Dolph Ziggler.

Never thought I'd ever say this but Ziggler has been fresher than Miz these past few years. Since their amazing IC feud Ziggler went heel, turned into that whole "lemme mimmick everyone" character, fueded with Kofi over the world title with that "it shoulda been me" thing, teamed with McIntyre against the Sheild and is now teaming with Roode in this middle age heavy metal thing. He even had a Goldberg feud.

Miz been pretty much the same these past 5 years. Same cool fresh suit look but still on the same ol BS.

[Starshine]

Feb 12, 2021 16:39:08 GMT -5 @ambrosefan said:

Feb 12, 2021 16:29:20 GMT -5 Starshine said:

The thing I've learned about Miz in the past few years, is the guy heavily relies on other acts and props to keep himself relevant, and probably moreso than anyone else in the comepany. Just to elaborate, in the past 5 years he's had the long IC title reigns, Maryse, The B Team, Shane McMahon, John Morrison, The current MITB shit. If he hasn't got some sort of co-star or notable prop to bounce off of, he completely flounders on his own.

A big example of that being The Mizdow stuff. I don't know if it's good or bad, just saying.

Going back even further you can add Alex Riley, R-Truth, Big Show, and Daniel Bryan as well.

The amount of crutches the guy needs to make him appear like a star, leads me to believe he has no genuine star qualities of his own.

[Perd]

I generally like the guy. But, yeah, right now, when he comes out, toting that briefcase, I just tune out. JoMo occasionally says something slightly funny. But Miz is, yeah, stale is the perfect word for him.

[nickcave]

All I know is he should never ever ever be face

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Edge cutting his balls off promo wise was so welcomed. I don't care if it was meant to happen or not from a storyline perspective Miz needed to hear that shit for a long time now.

"You're content being "Awesome", I NEED to be champion" sums it up rather well. Dude just doesn't evolve or hasn't in a very long time.

[Susan "Poison" Candy]

Nia Jax

[HMARK Center]

You guys remember when it was 1992 and the WWF was all "Eh, the same people have been on our jobber squash-heavy TV shows and 4 PPVs for like...three or four years now. Time to shuffle the roster and call it a New Generation"?

Or when WWF said that WCW was filled with old guys who've been overexposed on TV, even though guys like Hogan, Savage, Flair, and Sting only started appearing in weekly major prime time segments and matches starting around 1995?

Because man, WWE has a whole lot of people in it who've basically been around and mostly been the same for, uh...wow, it's over a decade, isn't it?

[ThankGodForSidJustice]

It's pretty close tetween him and Orton. I just can't give a damn about what either one of them doing just due to them being around too freaking long. I would say Miz is worse since he never gets hurt meaning he's been on TV this whole time continuously without any breaks. Good for him for being that durable however it hasn't done him any favors as far as making him less stale.

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Ziggler, Orton, Undisputed Era, and Owens all come immediately to mind.

[fw91]

perhaps so, yet I'm still more interested with his tv segments than most of the other talent.

[Pushed to the Moon]

I used to like him a lot when he was the champ (although maybe it was just cos I hated Cena) but yeah. He needs to switch it up but I don't know how. He can't even do the cliche "serious guy in a suit" thing since he's always dressed pretty sharp already!

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Yeah, I like him but he's very boring right now. Sadly, he's not the first (and he likely won't be the last) guy I like to get stale.

I actually thought his face turn a couple years ago got off to an excellent start, but they f***ed it all up by making him Shane's bitch. I don't care how good you are on the mic, it's going to be hard to take you seriously when you lose to THAT guy a bunch of times.

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Feb 12, 2021 16:41:23 GMT -5 @kn said:

Feb 12, 2021 16:37:49 GMT -5 Shark said:

I see you and I raise you


I've eaten 6 month old crackers that were less stale than Dolph Ziggler.

Never thought I'd ever say this but Ziggler has been fresher than Miz these past few years. Since their amazing IC feud Ziggler went heel, turned into that whole "lemme mimmick everyone" character, fueded with Kofi over the world title with that "it shoulda been me" thing, teamed with McIntyre against the Sheild and is now teaming with Roode in this middle age heavy metal thing. He even had a Goldberg feud.

Miz been pretty much the same these past 5 years. Same cool fresh suit look but still on the same ol BS.

Dolph was also pretty good in that angle with Otis and Mandy. I wasn't thrilled when he was inserted into it, but he did put Otis over. Probably his best work in a while IMO.