Kyle O'Reilly Post-NXT Stretcher Debacle Thread

[Bang Bang Bart]

Feb 18, 2021 0:50:19 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Feb 18, 2021 0:46:18 GMT -5 mistery said:

Raj walked back his story, by the way. He's now claiming its a work as well.

And honestly, even if it is a work, it isn't exactly tasteless either, considering WWE themselves never pushed it as him suffering a seizure. Fans themselves did. Kyle himself just did a stretcher job.

Yes, they didn't start this. But they've had over two hours to come out and make a clear statement on this to both their talent (as some seem genuinely concerned) and to the fans (who rightly were fearful for his health) and just didn't. With something as serious as this, you need to be communicating openly and not just having Satin come out well after the fact correcting the record. 

Really, WWE's kind of at fault here for not releasing a kayfabe statement or something indicating that it's just a storyline.

[Sponsored by Groose Wipes]

I'm really hoping this is not a work because it's already hard enough to keep supporting WWE and as someone who grew up suffering with seizures, this might be my final straw.

I'll wait and see since the info still seems to be coming in.

[Gus Richlen Was Wrong]

Feb 18, 2021 0:56:47 GMT -5 Sponsored by Groose Wipes said:

I'm really hoping this is not a work because it's already hard enough to keep supporting WWE and as someone who grew up suffering with seizures, this might be my final straw.

I'll wait and see since the info still seems to be coming in.

It may be less a worked seizure and more a major communication f***up but it's still major egg on WWE's face.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Feb 18, 2021 0:59:52 GMT -5 Gus Richlen Was Wrong said:

Feb 18, 2021 0:56:47 GMT -5 Sponsored by Groose Wipes said:

I'm really hoping this is not a work because it's already hard enough to keep supporting WWE and as someone who grew up suffering with seizures, this might be my final straw.

I'll wait and see since the info still seems to be coming in.

It may be less a worked seizure and more a major communication f***up but it's still major egg on WWE's face.

The fact that it's currently 1am and WWE hasn't given any sort of kayfabe update on the situation is a massive screwup.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

What I'm baffled by is he was being looked at by Doctors after the show ended? Unless this is some Youtube post thing they wanna do, why even do the segment and worry everyone like that?

And if you are, again, not letting your workers know and not understanding fan optics of knowing Kyle has a medical history, is just even MORE baffling on their part.

I just don't get it, like the best news that comes out of this is Kyle is ok, that's very good news but like... what the hell even happened here??

[RKTaker]

Feb 18, 2021 1:02:48 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

What I'm baffled by is he was being looked at by Doctors after the show ended? Unless this is some Youtube post thing they wanna do why even do the segment and worry everyone like that?

And if you are, again, not letting your workers know and not understanding fan optics of knowing O'Reiley has a medical history, is just even MORE baffling on their part.

I just don't get it, like the best news that comes out of this is O'Reiley is ok, just for several other things to suddenly not be ok about what's going on. Only WWE...

could be for a video on next week's nxt too

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Feb 18, 2021 1:04:01 GMT -5 RKTaker said:

Feb 18, 2021 1:02:48 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

What I'm baffled by is he was being looked at by Doctors after the show ended? Unless this is some Youtube post thing they wanna do why even do the segment and worry everyone like that?

And if you are, again, not letting your workers know and not understanding fan optics of knowing O'Reiley has a medical history, is just even MORE baffling on their part.

I just don't get it, like the best news that comes out of this is O'Reiley is ok, just for several other things to suddenly not be ok about what's going on. Only WWE...

could be for a video on next week's nxt too

At the rate this is going it might not be, kind of a PR nightmare they stepped in.

[Shark]

So Kyle does a stretcher job and sells it really well and Finn and Hunter both play their parts as concerned about him, some random fan says he suffered a seizure and now this is WWE's fault? I mean, I'm all for blaming WWE for stuff when they deserve it, but it really doesn't seem like that's the case. It sounds like they did a good job of doing the angle.

[mistery]

Yeah, as far as I can tell, the only thing that WWE screwed up on was not releasing some sort of kayfabe explanation. Otherwise the seizure thing was fans trying to play doctor. Because I went back and watched the video after this news broke, and not once did anyone at ringside mention a seizure or anything. It looked like a standard stretcher job.

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Feb 18, 2021 0:54:21 GMT -5 Bang Bang Bart said:

Feb 18, 2021 0:50:19 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

Yes, they didn't start this. But they've had over two hours to come out and make a clear statement on this to both their talent (as some seem genuinely concerned) and to the fans (who rightly were fearful for his health) and just didn't. With something as serious as this, you need to be communicating openly and not just having Satin come out well after the fact correcting the record. 

Really, WWE's kind of at fault here for not releasing a kayfabe statement or something indicating that it's just a storyline.

"O'Reilly was sent to the local medical facility after the attack from Cole but any reports of seizures are completely false."

That's it. One sentence. Both IRL and kayfabe. Bada bing.

This f***ing company, I swear.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Feb 18, 2021 1:04:35 GMT -5 Shark said:

So Kyle does a stretcher job and sells it really well and Finn and Hunter both play their parts as concerned about him, some random fan says he suffered a seizure and now this is WWE's fault? I mean, I'm all for blaming WWE for stuff when they deserve it, but it really doesn't seem like that's the case. It sounds like they did a good job of doing the angle.

They're at fault for not clearing the air regarding the situation, leading to a point where even some of Kyle's fellow wrestlers thought it was for real. Like, if they had done a kayfabe update like half-an-hour after NXT ended or something, we wouldn't have this confusion.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Feb 18, 2021 1:04:35 GMT -5 Shark said:

So Kyle does a stretcher job and sells it really well and Finn and Hunter both play their parts as concerned about him, some random fan says he suffered a seizure and now this is WWE's fault? I mean, I'm all for blaming WWE for stuff when they deserve it, but it really doesn't seem like that's the case. It sounds like they did a good job of doing the angle.

The issue is it looks like their own staff weren't clued in so they thought Kyle was legitimately hurt.

That's not good communication on their part if that was the case. There's nothing wrong with doing the angle, but like imagine being Kyle's friend and watching him get stretchered and you weren't told its a work...   

[Shark]

Feb 18, 2021 1:07:43 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Feb 18, 2021 1:04:35 GMT -5 Shark said:

So Kyle does a stretcher job and sells it really well and Finn and Hunter both play their parts as concerned about him, some random fan says he suffered a seizure and now this is WWE's fault? I mean, I'm all for blaming WWE for stuff when they deserve it, but it really doesn't seem like that's the case. It sounds like they did a good job of doing the angle.

The issue is it looks like their own staff weren't clued in so they thought Kyle was legitimately hurt.

That's not good communication on their part if that was the case. There's nothing wrong with doing the angle, but like imagine being Kyle's friend and watching him get stretchered and you weren't told its a work...   

I'm just done with all of this. Literally none of it is worth the head ache. Peace.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Feb 18, 2021 1:09:57 GMT -5 Shark said:

Feb 18, 2021 1:07:43 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

The issue is it looks like their own staff weren't clued in so they thought Kyle was legitimately hurt.

That's not good communication on their part if that was the case. There's nothing wrong with doing the angle, but like imagine being Kyle's friend and watching him get stretchered and you weren't told its a work...   

I'm just done with all of this. Literally none of it is worth the head ache. Peace.

I wasn't even trying to be hard to deal with here dude, but like that is the issue, and it's a major one. These guys go over scripts and booking the entire day, for hours, they know what's going on because they have to be in position for when they're next and ready. The only secrets they usually keep from talent are fun surprise debuts. How do you not tell people about a doctor/stretcher job to end the show if it's a work?? 

That's a major screwup on the heads of NXT's part, there is no tapdancing around that, if any other company did the same thing it'd be the same issue so I'm also not trying to be "ARGH WWE ARGH" here. It's one thing if it's fans misinterpreting, selling the gravity of an injury is what you want them to do. When the wrestlers themselves are misinterpreting, you did a shit job at your job...

Do the angle, fine, don't get your wrestlers worked up over something that could literally have been fixed with a single sentence of "Hey the medical stuff/stretch job for Kyle's a work tonight."

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Hell, I bet they did know a stretcher job was happening, but found out about the supposed seizure stuff the same way we did, through Twitter whisper games.

[Chiral]

I'm suddenly reminded of that 2004 Smackdown that had the weird ending where Eddie collapsed (in storyline) due to blood loss from the Judgment Day match I think. I remember just finding that one really uncomfortable as a kid, but I guess luckily Twitter/Twitter scuttlebutt wasn't around back then?

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Feb 18, 2021 1:21:04 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

Hell, I bet they did know a stretcher job was happening, but found out about the supposed seizure stuff the same way we did, through Twitter whisper games.

In that case them not asking staff or anyone else about info OR asking and getting no response to the point they have to post stuff like "I'm praying for you Kyle" isn't great either...

[Chris Legentil -- Mind Freak]

Feb 18, 2021 1:24:30 GMT -5 Chiral said:

I'm suddenly reminded of that 2004 Smackdown that had the weird ending where Eddie collapsed (in storyline) due to blood loss from the Judgment Day match I think. I remember just finding that one really uncomfortable as a kid, but I guess luckily Twitter/Twitter scuttlebutt wasn't around back then?

Remember when JBL went ooga booga at his grandma and she passed out cause he was so evil

[Mayonnaise]

Feb 18, 2021 1:04:35 GMT -5 Shark said:

So Kyle does a stretcher job and sells it really well and Finn and Hunter both play their parts as concerned about him, some random fan says he suffered a seizure and now this is WWE's fault? I mean, I'm all for blaming WWE for stuff when they deserve it, but it really doesn't seem like that's the case. It sounds like they did a good job of doing the angle.

Agreed. WWE ran an angle, it was a fan at ringside that jumped to conclusions and set this mess off, that is no fault of theirs. Hell, I'd wager the tweets from the wrestlers are part of it. I hate that we seem to be at the point that WWE has to kill an angle because one fan poisoned the whole thing. Could they stand to put out kayfabe statement to cover things, yeah, but I don't want to see them talk about her everything is fine and it was Kyle's idea so he could gain some sympathy or some such shit like happened elsewhere tonight.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Feb 18, 2021 1:24:30 GMT -5 Chiral said:

I'm suddenly reminded of that 2004 Smackdown that had the weird ending where Eddie collapsed (in storyline) due to blood loss from the Judgment Day match I think. I remember just finding that one really uncomfortable as a kid, but I guess luckily Twitter/Twitter scuttlebutt wasn't around back then?

How about a few years ago when HHH having a worked concussion during his Curtis Axel match?

That aged bad as it was happening...