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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 20, 2021 2:20:30 GMT -5
On the aspect of the actual tier? God help anyone who wasted 3 bucks on Nia Jax...
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Feb 20, 2021 3:03:06 GMT -5
They'd have to pay me to pick Natalya My thoughts exactly.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Feb 20, 2021 3:14:42 GMT -5
No it isn't. These "optics" only exist cause Nattie got hurt over it, dug her heels in, and a bunch of Twitter stans echo chambered her sentiments. This is same woman who was more than happy to do a farting gimmick designed to make her a joke, but is now playing humiliated that a nothing game put her on the lowest tier, even when she hasn't done anything of note in ages. Honestly, she's probably lucky they even cared to remember to include her to begin with. These games always have rankings, that's the point. If she was getting a solid push then she'd be worth more in the game. Seriously, if these wrestlers are that thin skinned that they're not $5 or whatever they think they deserve, they should be looking into why they're not getting those positions on the show than crying about a game on Twitter that no one would have given a second though about beforehand. It's straight up pathetic. No, you're missing the point. It's the company that employs her giving optics that her worth is substantially lower than her co-workers. It's a niche game and if it were some random person on Twitter upsetting her with it, then that could arguably be a case of thin-skin. This is her place of employment doing it on their social media. It's bad optics for any employer to attribute a public value to an employees performance whether it's a "game" or not. And it's not like she threw a tantrum. She, and Alexa (and Cesaro and Shelton and others IN the company) have expressed the same dissatisfaction with the company's choice to tweet that and leave it up. It's bad optics. www.thesmackdownhotel.com/news/wwe2k20/wwe-2k20-overall-ratings-full-list-of-superstars-ranked-by-best-overallAnother example of the company 'attributing public value to an employees performance' in a game. Should they all be rated the same?
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Post by pinja on Feb 20, 2021 3:17:28 GMT -5
With Natalya I think it's a matter of clashing perceptions. She seems to be backstage glue. Friendly with everyone, helps a ton of people. Her worth is also constantly questioned online. I totally understand her frustrations here, cause when you're so well respected by your peers, but seemingly not by the public - and public perception is what can easily define your self esteem in wrestling - things like this feel belittling.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Feb 20, 2021 3:34:18 GMT -5
I just don’t think this is the kind of thing you can do with wrestling, because the best talents are only the best because they’re written to be so, unlike real sports where it would be based on their legitimate skill and/or success at that given time. I asked this in the other thread, but what is the universally accepted method for ranking individual basketball or football players through history? If there was there'd be no point in doing this game for those sports, as there would be a clear answer. These are ratings based on the character as they're presented on screen in this (fictional) sport, not their actual worth as performers or human beings. If someone said Captain America would be worth more in a game like this than Falcon, I wouldn't expect to see Anthony Mackie diving into his notes app about it.
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Post by Bo Rida on Feb 20, 2021 3:44:39 GMT -5
Of course people are upset. She knows that if WWE hear she's worth an extra $1 they'll be after their cut.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Feb 20, 2021 4:25:27 GMT -5
Such a pathetic reaction
Wrestlers are bigger marks than the fans
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 20, 2021 5:24:07 GMT -5
This literally gets posted every so often about almost every sport in the world. Or "pick your ultimate band" or "superhero team" or loads of stuff.
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Post by Kyle Butler on Feb 20, 2021 7:23:01 GMT -5
They'd have to pay me to pick Natalya
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Post by Mid-Carder on Feb 20, 2021 7:30:25 GMT -5
I'd pick one Asuka and still win
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Feb 20, 2021 7:40:52 GMT -5
not sure where Bayley is getting her $15 bills from though
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 20, 2021 7:50:54 GMT -5
This is literally just a game assigned to every sport
Get your ego out your asses. They have one for a HOF where Jason Kidd is in the $1 tier and you don't see him crying up a storm
If there was a fantasy draft, would you get mad if you got picked last or not at all? If you really took this game that seriously then idk what to say cause it literally has no merit whatsoever
There is no optics. No bigger game in play. Just literally pick and compare. Even if Nattie was $3 or $5, she isn't getting picked so it really is a moot point. Digging that rabbit hole going get your feelings even more hurt sis
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 20, 2021 8:06:39 GMT -5
not sure where Bayley is getting her $15 bills from though Presumably from whoever kept printing all that JBL money.
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Post by ronin705 on Feb 20, 2021 8:59:04 GMT -5
Goddamn soft ass egos out there.. But i remember interviews of them bitching about their 2k ratings, so this type of vanity is obviously a "thing"
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Post by Citizen Snips on Feb 20, 2021 8:59:49 GMT -5
not sure where Bayley is getting her $15 bills from though Presumably from whoever kept printing all that JBL money. And the Theodore Long Dolla Dolla Bills.
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Post by PKO on Feb 20, 2021 10:38:30 GMT -5
To play Devils Advocate, this makes sense for the direction that Natalya has started to take her character in recent weeks. I’m sure her real life feelings have gone into it too, but I can appreciate it being from a character stand point.
I can’t believe how seriously some of the wrestlers have taken it though. Shelton in particular seems really mad about it. Like, I can understand being a little miffed about being told you’re worth a dollar, but it’s a silly little game! Some of them have treated it like it’s such a devastating insult. If I were any of those women I would be using it as an excuse to banter and show character.
Carmella particularly annoyed me because she played along with whoever runs the account for a while, and then trashed them at the end.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Feb 20, 2021 11:08:20 GMT -5
I don’t remember all this bitching the last few times when it was just the men or when they did the whole roster
This is at least the third iteration I’ve seen before
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 11:24:55 GMT -5
This shit is the exact type of shit that turns casual fans off to WWE. Their greedy and "NOTICE ME" fall all over themselves attitudes when someone even remotely famous says they're a fan of the show, to getting upset over something that is literally just a silly god damn game that all major sports go through and have been just fine in doing, including when they did it with the Males. Now because it's a tier for women they're being judged and humiliated and Nattie has to make a post where her friends have to give her positive reinforcement? For f***s sake I'm sorry but get over yourself. This just highlights some major insecurities on some modern wrestlers part, and how toxic some of them can really be on social media. Just the major disconnect involved with wrestling and the mainstream media even when they are on a network like FOX. Eh, dude, you've reported countless times about how people were trying to sabotage your show ranking polls and getting incredibly upset about it. That seems pretty insecure to me, no offense. Now, I could see them being upset about being ranked in a business that's almost 100 percent based on how they're perceived. It's all controlled by a dude who seemingly changes his mind about pushes based on silly things like haircuts and accents. Without a union, I would worry about getting released about the dumbest little thing and power rankings could screw with how a lunatic like Vince sees people.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 11:27:57 GMT -5
I get people saying so and so should be higher or lower. That’s the whole fun of these things to create debate and discussion.
The people who find the list’s existence in itself to be offensive though is honestly one of the most pathetic things I’ve seen from wrestlers.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 11:31:53 GMT -5
I feel like Natalya is always whining.
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