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Post by Chiral on Mar 1, 2021 23:06:05 GMT -5
Also I'm down for Miz being a transitional champion guy, he's perfect for sneak wins with the end goal of getting the belt to someone else.
ALSO ALSO there's some on here who can serve crow because I've seen predictions about Lashley's path since like last fall or maybe even earlier that were like SPOT ON.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 1, 2021 23:06:13 GMT -5
Good for him, he's overdue.
He and Drew should tear the house down at Mania.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 1, 2021 23:07:16 GMT -5
I'd have probably just saved it for Fastlane given not like anything of consequence will be done on that show anyway, but either way, pretty well overdue and Miz played his part well of making Lashley look absolutely unstoppable. Nah, they had to do it tonight after the stupid bait and switches they did If anything, the rematch's happening at Fastlane, where Bob retains then him vs. Drew at Mania.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 1, 2021 23:07:46 GMT -5
That's cool. But here's my issue, they build this guy up as a monster for about a year, he doesn't take pins, he looks like a beast, he beats the tar out of the babyface world champion... and then they book him to win the title as a de-facto babyface against the weak weasel heel? Why not have him body Drew and take his title in the Chamber, have him kill Miz when he cashes in to really put over how strong he is, and go from there? What's the point of Miz, whose current gimmick is that he sucks, and everyone knows he sucks, getting the belt as a go between, when the most direct route would be the most effective? Because now the story is he ducked Drew knowing he can't beat him Drew is the last person to legit beat Lashley a year ago and you have that story to go with now
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 1, 2021 23:08:30 GMT -5
Nah, they had to do it tonight after the stupid bait and switches they did If anything, the rematch's happening at Fastlane, where Bob retains then him vs. Drew at Mania. Yea, the rematch should be a more "legit" match but it will end in a Lashley squash and a set up to Drew vs Lashley at Mania
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Mar 1, 2021 23:08:41 GMT -5
That's cool. But here's my issue, they build this guy up as a monster for about a year, he doesn't take pins, he looks like a beast, he beats the tar out of the babyface world champion... and then they book him to win the title as a de-facto babyface against the weak weasel heel? Why not have him body Drew and take his title in the Chamber, have him kill Miz when he cashes in to really put over how strong he is, and go from there? What's the point of Miz, whose current gimmick is that he sucks, and everyone knows he sucks, getting the belt as a go between, when the most direct route would be the most effective? Because Vince McMahon is a f***ing idiot who needs to give up every last ounce of booking control and never touch a writing sheet ever again.
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Post by Starshine on Mar 1, 2021 23:08:46 GMT -5
That's cool. But here's my issue, they build this guy up as a monster for about a year, he doesn't take pins, he looks like a beast, he beats the tar out of the babyface world champion... and then they book him to win the title as a de-facto babyface against the weak weasel heel? Why not have him body Drew and take his title in the Chamber, have him kill Miz when he cashes in to really put over how strong he is, and go from there? What's the point of Miz, whose current gimmick is that he sucks, and everyone knows he sucks, getting the belt as a go between, when the most direct route would be the most effective? Because now the story is he ducked Drew knowing he can't beat him Drew is the last person to legit beat Lashley a year ago and you have that story to go with now But why wouldn't you want Lashley to look as strong as possible? That's where I'm lost in this whole thing, he's booked super strong with a dominant title run, and they give him the feel good win over the chickenshit heel? Why?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 1, 2021 23:09:08 GMT -5
When Bobby came back into the WWE, he had a terrible Babyface run, the run where he would just Moon the f***ing camera as his "Favorite Pose", a cuck angle with Lana and Rusev... his career was in a tailspin
MVP then proceeded to take him right to the f***in mountaintop where he belonged
Not only does Lashley deserve his name in the hat for one of the best career and run turnarounds I've ever seen going from THAT to Champion, but if MVP don't get Hall of Fame consideration for both his in ring career and now managerial highlights taking dudes to tag titles, the US Title, and now the WWE Title? Then that conversation needs to start right now.
Props to all involved, Hurt Business has been one of the best things in WWE the last year, and they deserve the spotlight at Mania too.
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Post by Chiral on Mar 1, 2021 23:09:22 GMT -5
Also also ALSO I gotta give a shoutout to WWE for finally having a twisty build to a Mania world title match for the first time in like a decade.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 1, 2021 23:10:03 GMT -5
I give Raw a lot of shit for being shit, but this? It's not one of those times. It's a well-deserved title win for Lasher.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 1, 2021 23:10:30 GMT -5
That's cool. But here's my issue, they build this guy up as a monster for about a year, he doesn't take pins, he looks like a beast, he beats the tar out of the babyface world champion... and then they book him to win the title as a de-facto babyface against the weak weasel heel? Why not have him body Drew and take his title in the Chamber, have him kill Miz when he cashes in to really put over how strong he is, and go from there? What's the point of Miz, whose current gimmick is that he sucks, and everyone knows he sucks, getting the belt as a go between, when the most direct route would be the most effective? Because Vince McMahon is a f***ing idiot who needs to give up every last ounce of booking control and never touch a writing sheet ever again. Or Lashley ducked Drew because Drew was the last person to pin Bobby over a year ago, so he helped Miz beat Drew and got an easy path to his own glory I say *F*** Vince and his booking" as much as the next guy but in context, everything about this makes total sense especially now that we got the right result. It's the perfect storyline to take to Mania, even if I really wish they hadn't thrown Sheamus under the bus in the process.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 23:10:32 GMT -5
And so begins Miz's freefall into losing everything.
Lose WWE title Next lose and get embaressed by Bad Bunny at Mania Morrison then will ditch him for his wife (gawd willing please)
Miz gonna teaming with Dolph by years end poor guy.
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Post by berlynwright on Mar 1, 2021 23:10:42 GMT -5
That's cool. But here's my issue, they build this guy up as a monster for about a year, he doesn't take pins, he looks like a beast, he beats the tar out of the babyface world champion... and then they book him to win the title as a de-facto babyface against the weak weasel heel? Why not have him body Drew and take his title in the Chamber, have him kill Miz when he cashes in to really put over how strong he is, and go from there? What's the point of Miz, whose current gimmick is that he sucks, and everyone knows he sucks, getting the belt as a go between, when the most direct route would be the most effective? They booked themselves to the corner with the MITB and they won't have McIntyre to lose clean. Heel vs Heel is possible in front of no audience and we all knew Mix was going to lose anyway and he was just a go between. Maybe they wanted to give the big mania moment for McIntyre
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Post by Rican on Mar 1, 2021 23:11:14 GMT -5
If you had told me 5 years ago the WWE Championship match at Wrestlemania was gonna be Lashley vs. Drew McIntyre AND people were gonna be super pumped about it (myself included) I would have been so confused haha. Congrats to Lashley, extremely well deserved.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 1, 2021 23:11:23 GMT -5
They gave us a show-long story to get us to care about Lashley beating Miz. It was such simple booking and it worked.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 1, 2021 23:11:45 GMT -5
Because now the story is he ducked Drew knowing he can't beat him Drew is the last person to legit beat Lashley a year ago and you have that story to go with now But why wouldn't you want Lashley to look as strong as possible? That's where I'm lost in this whole thing, he's booked super strong with a dominant title run, and they give him the feel good win over the chickenshit heel? Why? Because Miz is the lowest of the low At the end of the day, this is everyone rallying against the person who wouldn't be a "legit champion". Lashley only helped Miz because he knew he can beat the dog piss out of him and get a title shot immediately as opposed to "waiting his turn" In terms of a "prison system" Lashley is an asshole who probably murdered someone while Miz is that guy and everyone hates that guy
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Post by Starshine on Mar 1, 2021 23:11:58 GMT -5
That's cool. But here's my issue, they build this guy up as a monster for about a year, he doesn't take pins, he looks like a beast, he beats the tar out of the babyface world champion... and then they book him to win the title as a de-facto babyface against the weak weasel heel? Why not have him body Drew and take his title in the Chamber, have him kill Miz when he cashes in to really put over how strong he is, and go from there? What's the point of Miz, whose current gimmick is that he sucks, and everyone knows he sucks, getting the belt as a go between, when the most direct route would be the most effective? They booked themselves to the corner with the MITB and they won't have McIntyre to lose clean. Heel vs Heel is possible in front of no audience and we all knew Mix was going to lose anyway and he was just a go between. Maybe they wanted to give the big mania moment for McIntyre I guess. But they also didn't have to give Miz the belt. Lashley could have just been in the chamber and won it there.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Mar 1, 2021 23:12:10 GMT -5
Haven't been watching the product.
What would you recommend me watch from the last year of lashleys career to see his best work
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Post by MrElijah on Mar 1, 2021 23:12:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 23:12:20 GMT -5
If you had told me 5 years ago the WWE Championship match at Wrestlemania was gonna be Lashley vs. Drew McIntyre AND people were gonna be super pumped about it (myself included) I would have been so confused haha. Congrats to Lashley, extremely well deserved. Shit, I would've told you you were crazy if you told me this at the start of 2020.
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