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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 7, 2021 15:42:23 GMT -5
Anyone have any idea what it was? Some of those 1980’s WWF ones seem like they must have been at least as long as that GCW 24 Hour show. Check this one out: www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=177139Imagine sitting through 31 matches only for the night to end with a Billy Graham/Ivan Putski double count out! Oh well, at least you got to see Tiger Mask.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 16:06:49 GMT -5
I was at a WWF Superstars taping in 1993 that lasted about 6 hours.
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Post by Hypnosis on Mar 7, 2021 16:11:31 GMT -5
Well, it's on YouTube, but AEW Dark?
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 7, 2021 16:15:47 GMT -5
I was at a WWF Superstars taping in 1993 that lasted about 6 hours. I’ve never been able to really dissect it, but I wonder if some of those later filmed matches are shot really tightly so you can’t see the empty seats. Given the length of some of these tapings they have to assume that a lot of people are going to be gone before the end of the night. The matches used to conclude marathon tapings seem to alternate in philosophy. Some crowds get treats like Savage/Michaels or Savage/Flair in title matches. With other cards I guess they figured after so much audience burn out there is no way they can send the fans home happy. These cards end with things like Bret/Horowitz for the IC Title and Tatanka/Sonny Beach.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 16:21:09 GMT -5
I was at a WWF Superstars taping in 1993 that lasted about 6 hours. I’ve never been able to really dissect it, but I wonder if some of those later filmed matches are shot really tightly so you can’t see the empty seats. Given the length of some of these tapings they have to assume that a lot of people are going to be gone before the end of the night. The matches used to conclude marathon tapings seem to alternate in philosophy. Some crowds get treats like Savage/Michaels or Savage/Flair in title matches. With other cards I guess they figured after so much audience burn out there is no way they can send the fans home happy. These cards end with things like Bret/Horowitz for the IC Title and Tatanka/Sonny Beach. This one definitely didn't lose people as it went. There was a dark match at the end with the Mega Maniacs/Crush vs. Money Inc./Giant Gonzales, and Hogan never came to this area so that was a huge attraction.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 7, 2021 16:28:18 GMT -5
I’ve never been able to really dissect it, but I wonder if some of those later filmed matches are shot really tightly so you can’t see the empty seats. Given the length of some of these tapings they have to assume that a lot of people are going to be gone before the end of the night. The matches used to conclude marathon tapings seem to alternate in philosophy. Some crowds get treats like Savage/Michaels or Savage/Flair in title matches. With other cards I guess they figured after so much audience burn out there is no way they can send the fans home happy. These cards end with things like Bret/Horowitz for the IC Title and Tatanka/Sonny Beach. This one definitely didn't lose people as it went. There was a dark match at the end with the Mega Maniacs/Crush vs. Money Inc./Giant Gonzales, and Hogan never came to this area so that was a huge attraction. Did Hogan come out multiple times for this one? I was looking at one card earlier and Hogan wrestled three matches! I could just imagine the logistics of that. Bruce Prichard: Yup, we’re losing them again. Vince McMahon: Damn it! Send Terry out again! *Real American Hits* *Dead crowd comes back to life*
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Post by thegame415 on Mar 7, 2021 16:31:26 GMT -5
What about some of the WCW Worldwide tapings in the early/mid-90's?
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Post by cjh on Mar 7, 2021 16:36:54 GMT -5
What about some of the WCW Worldwide tapings in the early/mid-90's? Those were different because WCW would tape for a few hours, then they would bring a new audience into the soundstage.
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Post by evilone on Mar 7, 2021 16:43:02 GMT -5
I was at a WWF Superstars taping in 1993 that lasted about 6 hours. Sounds like you've been to Superstars 330 or 333 that featured interesting matches like The Undertaker vs Razor Ramon Boss Man vs Doing Money Inc vs The Bushwhackers Bret Hart as champ vs Bam Bam Tatanka defeating Shawn Michaels The Undertaker vs Papa Shango Bob Backlund vs Shawn Michaels The Undertaker vs Yokozuna Bret Hart vs Ric Flair Other long(er) tapings of Superstars would be 362 (1-2-3 defeating Shawn, Bam Bam vs Tatanka, Yokozuna pins Macho), 371 (Bret Hart vs Jerry Lawler, Yoko vs Undertaker) and one on Dec 1st (Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels, Razor vs IRS)
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 7, 2021 16:47:10 GMT -5
What about some of the WCW Worldwide tapings in the early/mid-90's? Not quite in the same category as that WWF card I posted, but here is one that has over 20 matches: www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=106693Along those same lines Herb Abrams UWF tapings sometimes ran that long.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 7, 2021 17:00:48 GMT -5
I was at a WWF Superstars taping in 1993 that lasted about 6 hours. Sounds like you've been to Superstars 330 or 333 that featured interesting matches like The Undertaker vs Razor Ramon Boss Man vs Doing Money Inc vs The Bushwhackers Bret Hart as champ vs Bam Bam Tatanka defeating Shawn Michaels The Undertaker vs Papa Shango Bob Backlund vs Shawn Michaels The Undertaker vs Yokozuna Bret Hart vs Ric Flair Other long(er) tapings of Superstars would be 362 (1-2-3 defeating Shawn, Bam Bam vs Tatanka, Yokozuna pins Macho), 371 (Bret Hart vs Jerry Lawler, Yoko vs Undertaker) and one on Dec 1st (Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels, Razor vs IRS) I’m looking up the cards and at least some of them have under 20 matches. If those cards went 6 hours, goodness knows how long some of those 30+ card matches was. True it’s a lot of squashes, but you know plenty of those other matches aren’t kept 10 minutes or less.
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Post by ANuclearError on Mar 7, 2021 17:05:31 GMT -5
Sounds like you've been to Superstars 330 or 333 that featured interesting matches like The Undertaker vs Razor Ramon Boss Man vs Doing Money Inc vs The Bushwhackers Bret Hart as champ vs Bam Bam Tatanka defeating Shawn Michaels The Undertaker vs Papa Shango Bob Backlund vs Shawn Michaels The Undertaker vs Yokozuna Bret Hart vs Ric Flair Other long(er) tapings of Superstars would be 362 (1-2-3 defeating Shawn, Bam Bam vs Tatanka, Yokozuna pins Macho), 371 (Bret Hart vs Jerry Lawler, Yoko vs Undertaker) and one on Dec 1st (Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels, Razor vs IRS) I’m looking up the cards and at least some of them have under 20 matches. If those cards went 6 hours, goodness knows how long some of those 30+ card matches was. True it’s a lot of squashes, but you know plenty of those other matches aren’t kept 10 minutes or less. Not just the length of matches to consider either. Also gotta take set-up, entrances, intermission and all that into account as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 17:26:37 GMT -5
The Superstars taping in August 91 had 33 matches www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&show=51389One of my favourite Observer stories is Dave going to a TV taping at the Cow Palace with Hogan/Bossman advertised and during Bossman's squash match the fans not knowing how the tapings operate were chanting "refund" because they thought the jobber was a replacement for Hulk.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 7, 2021 17:39:10 GMT -5
The Superstars taping in August 91 had 33 matches www.wrestlingdata.com/index.php?befehl=shows&show=51389One of my favourite Observer stories is Dave going to a TV taping at the Cow Palace with Hogan/Bossman advertised and during Bossman's squash match the fans not knowing how the tapings operate were chanting "refund" because they thought the jobber was a replacement for Hulk. A main event anywhere in the country.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 18:42:40 GMT -5
I was at a WWF Superstars taping in 1993 that lasted about 6 hours. Sounds like you've been to Superstars 330 or 333 that featured interesting matches like The Undertaker vs Razor Ramon Boss Man vs Doing Money Inc vs The Bushwhackers Bret Hart as champ vs Bam Bam Tatanka defeating Shawn Michaels The Undertaker vs Papa Shango Bob Backlund vs Shawn Michaels The Undertaker vs Yokozuna Bret Hart vs Ric Flair Other long(er) tapings of Superstars would be 362 (1-2-3 defeating Shawn, Bam Bam vs Tatanka, Yokozuna pins Macho), 371 (Bret Hart vs Jerry Lawler, Yoko vs Undertaker) and one on Dec 1st (Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels, Razor vs IRS) It was this one, and this doesn't seem to include any of the dark matches. The Macho Man vs. Lex Luger match from this taping is on the Randy Savage unreleased DVD. I have pictures from every match that night, but they're from the nosebleed seats. Taped 6/15/93; Huntington, WV; Civic Center 7/3/93 - featured the 1-2-3 Kid / Reno Riggins match which took place at the 6/21/93 Raw taping in Poughkeepsie, with Jim Ross providing commentary for the match; included Bonnie Blackstone conducting a podium interview with Bret Hart regarding Jerry Lawler and the upcoming Stars & Stripes Challenge to be held at the USS Intrepid; featured a Men on a Mission rap vignette promoting their debut the following week; included an 'Update' segment focusing on the Stars & Stripes Challenge; featured footage of the previous Monday's Raw of Vince McMahon interviewing Ted Dibiase & IRS, who made fun of Razor Ramon: Marty Jannetty pinned Tom Stone with the flying fistdrop at 2:58 Lex Luger pinned Rich Myers with the running forearm at 1:49 WWF Tag Team Champions Rick & Scott Steiner defeated Barry Horowitz & Brian Costello at 2:27 when Rick pinned Costello following the top rope bulldog double team Bam Bam Bigelow (w/ Luna Vachon) pinned Rudi Gonzalez with the diving headbutt at 2:46; during the bout, Jerry Lawler left the broadcast booth saying his crown was tarnished and he had to shine it up; he returned before the next match but missed the podium interview segment with Bret Hart Adam Bomb (w/ Johnny Polo) pinned Jay Sledge with the powerbomb at 2:54 Taped 6/15/93; Huntington, WV; Civic Center 7/10/93 - included footage of the Stars & Stripes Challenge, held July 4, with Lex Luger slamming WWF World Champion Yokozuna; featured the announcement Bret Hart would face Jerry Lawler at Summer Slam in the first match signed for the event: The Smoking Gunns defeated WT Jones & Rock Werner at 2:22 when Bart pinned Werner with the backdrop / piledriver combo Crush defeated Doink the Clown (Borne) via count-out at around 11:30 when Doink sustained a backdrop on the floor, allowing Crush to slide back inside the ring before the 10-count; prior to the bout, Doink appeared on the big screen with the screen splitting until 16 Doinks were shown; after the match, a second Doink (Keirn) attacked Crush from behind with wooden sticks as officials kept the first Doink from going back in the ring; moments later, Crush was double-teamed WWF IC Champion Shawn Michaels (w/ Diesel) pinned Kevin Kruger with a superkick and piledriver at 3:08 Men on a Mission (w/ Oscar) defeated Mitch Bishop & Chad Miller at 2:45 when Mabel pinned Bishop following a front suplex / legdrop off the middle turnbuckle combo (MOM's debut on Superstars) Taped 6/15/93; Huntington, WV; Civic Center 7/17/93 - included an 'Update' segment announcing Lex Luger's "Call to Action" campaign where Luger would be travelling around the country on the Lex Express bus petitioning for a title shot against WWF World Champion Yokozuna; featured the announcement the Undertaker would face Giant Gonzalez in a Rest in Peace match at Summer Slam and that nobody except the Undertaker knew the rules of the match: Tatanka pinned Brian Costello at 2:42 with the Samoan Drop Adam Bomb (w/ Johnny Polo) pinned Rich Myers at 2:42 with the powerbomb WWF Tag Team Champions Rick & Scott Steiner defeated Ted Dibiase & IRS via reverse decision; Dibiase originally pinned Scott at around 15:30 after IRS hit him with his steel briefcase and then put Dibiase on top for the pin; moments later, another referee came out and told the original referee what happened and the decision was reversed; after the bout, Bonnie Blackstone interviewed Dibiase & IRS in the ring, where they said they were robbed out of winning back their titles and challenged the Steiners to a rematch the following week; the Steiners accepted the challenge at the end of the show Mr. Hughes (w/ Harvey Wippleman) pinned Sonny Rogers at 1:45 with the sidewalk slam; prior to the bout, a black wreath was brought to ringside, which Hughes destroyed after the match
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 18:45:51 GMT -5
That taping also had a match where Jim Duggan teamed with Kamala and they teased a Duggan heel turn when he was upset at Kamala for losing the match. I believe it was against the Headshrinkers. A friend once found me a video of that match that aired in overseas markets, so I assume there were others for international markets not listed here.
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Post by Triangle Lancer on Mar 8, 2021 3:16:35 GMT -5
I’m looking up the cards and at least some of them have under 20 matches. If those cards went 6 hours, goodness knows how long some of those 30+ card matches was. True it’s a lot of squashes, but you know plenty of those other matches aren’t kept 10 minutes or less. Not just the length of matches to consider either. Also gotta take set-up, entrances, intermission and all that into account as well. That's what a friend told me about a 1995 taping at his high school. Think he was there from 7pm-12am. They taped all the tv shows, plus others- like mentioned, mainly for international markets. A lot of the down time was getting the lighting and logos correct for the next guy, pyro set up for Razor, Diesel, etc. Lot of throwing merch to the crowd, too. Dude got one of those giant foam Smoking Gunns hats.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 8, 2021 8:09:31 GMT -5
Global had to fill enough to have daily shows on ESPN, yes? I'd imagine those tapings were stuffed.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 8, 2021 11:44:51 GMT -5
Didn't TNA book like 3 or 4 months of footage over a weekend once?
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 8, 2021 12:27:39 GMT -5
Global had to fill enough to have daily shows on ESPN, yes? I'd imagine those tapings were stuffed. I haven’t looked up all the results but from what I could find on Cagematch they always kept it to under 20 matches. Here is their first taping: www.cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=949118 matches there. Sometimes the tapings had much fewer matches especially as it for later into Global’s run. That’s just from what I could find on Cagematch though and Cagematch does miss stuff. Didn't TNA book like 3 or 4 months of footage over a weekend once? I could see some of those having over 20 matches. I remember back when they happened those live reports seemed to go on forever. Unfortunately from what I could find Cagematch just lists when the cards actually aired rather than the full tapings. It should be possible to find though if anyone wants to try. I believe the biggest tapings were the 2016 ones in Bethlehem, PA and Orlando.
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