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Post by thechase on Mar 13, 2021 9:19:39 GMT -5
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Post by cosmo on Mar 13, 2021 9:46:23 GMT -5
I still think it's wild that a movie that made almost three billion dollars has somehow managed to have no cultural footprint at all since it was initially released. I don't think I've seen it play on TV in years, haven't heard anybody talk about it since it was in theaters. And if they do talk about it, it basically boils down to, "Man, Avatar was pretty to look at, but wasn't it awful other than that?"
But maybe China just really loves Sam Worthington? Could that where he's been since he fell off the face of the earth ten years ago?
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 13, 2021 9:50:46 GMT -5
I still think it's wild that a movie that made almost three billion dollars has somehow managed to have no cultural footprint at all since it was initially released. I don't think I've seen it play on TV in years, haven't heard anybody talk about it since it was in theaters. And if they do talk about it, it basically boils down to, "Man, Avatar was pretty to look at, but wasn't it awful other than that?"
But maybe China just really loves Sam Worthington? Could that where he's been since he fell off the face of the earth ten years ago?
It’s utterly perplexing how it left so little of a cultural footprint. For a window it was the most popular thing in the world, then it left theatres and nobody really gave a shit about it after that. At all. I hear more references to The Last Airbender then I do Avatar |
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Post by thechase on Mar 13, 2021 9:55:37 GMT -5
I still think it's wild that a movie that made almost three billion dollars has somehow managed to have no cultural footprint at all since it was initially released. I don't think I've seen it play on TV in years, haven't heard anybody talk about it since it was in theaters. And if they do talk about it, it basically boils down to, "Man, Avatar was pretty to look at, but wasn't it awful other than that?"
But maybe China just really loves Sam Worthington? Could that where he's been since he fell off the face of the earth ten years ago?
It’s utterly perplexing how it left so little of a cultural footprint. For a window it was the most popular thing in the world, then it left theatres and nobody really gave a shit about it after that. At all. I hear more references to The Last Airbender then I do Avatar Cameron's perfectionism put paid to the movie not capitalising on it's momentum, we should not have needed to wait a decade plus for fifty sequels. |
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 13, 2021 9:57:35 GMT -5
I still think it's wild that a movie that made almost three billion dollars has somehow managed to have no cultural footprint at all since it was initially released. I don't think I've seen it play on TV in years, haven't heard anybody talk about it since it was in theaters. And if they do talk about it, it basically boils down to, "Man, Avatar was pretty to look at, but wasn't it awful other than that?" But maybe China just really loves Sam Worthington? Could that where he's been since he fell off the face of the earth ten years ago?
All people know about it now is the Disney Animal Kingdom section that’s inexplicably themed to it. |
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Post by cosmo on Mar 13, 2021 10:05:49 GMT -5
I still think it's wild that a movie that made almost three billion dollars has somehow managed to have no cultural footprint at all since it was initially released. I don't think I've seen it play on TV in years, haven't heard anybody talk about it since it was in theaters. And if they do talk about it, it basically boils down to, "Man, Avatar was pretty to look at, but wasn't it awful other than that?" But maybe China just really loves Sam Worthington? Could that where he's been since he fell off the face of the earth ten years ago?
All people know about it now is the Disney Animal Kingdom section that’s inexplicably themed to it. I didn’t even know that! |
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 13, 2021 10:23:06 GMT -5
The funny thing about Avatar is that it actually makes other blockbusters strengths much more apparent given their enduring legacy.
The original Star Wars for example, was said by some critics at the time to be an ultimately empty popcorn flick, yet the charm and warmth in that film is well remembered by the audience, even after the series' hibernation period circa 1985-1991. The magic of Jurassic Park still holds for a lot of people, with a beloved status long after its remarkable special effects aren't as notable (even if they have aged well).
Avatar however ultimately feels hollow. Its core themes are so basic and even to audiences sympathetic to them don't feel particularly striking because so many of its elements took a backseat to the effects and world design. In a lot of ways its far more enjoyable if the visuals are focused on because one can then ignore the bog standard nature of the narrative. There has been no fanfic explosion about its characters and other than kicking off another asinine 3D trend, few films or TV shows have felt inspired by what it did either due to budget needed or seeing other major films to emulate.
That latter point feels especially telling of its status. In a film industry rife with either parodies or cheap knockoffs of popular films, countless producers looked at Avatar and concluded it wasn't even worth ripping off.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Mar 13, 2021 10:59:41 GMT -5
I think the biggest irony of Avatar taking back the mantle of highest grossing film of all time is that it just reminds you how strange it is that they had it in the first place. When Endgame took the top spot, the writing was on the wall: global phenomenon, eleven years and 20+ movies worth of buildup, fan service pulling from 50+ years worth of comics history. Marvel's place in pop culture history has been unquestionable.
Avatar's entire legacy is that number one spot. Without them being the answer to that particular trivia question, I don't think they have a place in pop culture history, and you can tell by how little it did for anyone who starred in that movie.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 13, 2021 11:13:36 GMT -5
Avatar's entire legacy is that number one spot. Without them being the answer to that particular trivia question, I don't think they have a place in pop culture history, and you can tell by how little it did for anyone who starred in that movie. Sam Worthington's fall was hard. He went from the lead in the highest grossing movie of all time to supporting roles in low budget action movies within four years. Really you can only say Zoe Saldana has raised her profile since Avatar. |
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Mar 13, 2021 11:50:42 GMT -5
Isn't Avatar's legacy the fact that for more than 10 years people have consistently wondered how the movie was ever popular? Which invites curiosity and fascination to see what all the hub-bub was about.
For a movie that supposedly impacted pop culture so little, it is impressive that a decade later people still talk about it precisely in these terms like it's somehow a mystery. Will people look back at Avengers: Endgame at all in the same way as Avatar come 2030?
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Mar 13, 2021 13:18:14 GMT -5
Avatar's entire legacy is that number one spot. Without them being the answer to that particular trivia question, I don't think they have a place in pop culture history, and you can tell by how little it did for anyone who starred in that movie. Sam Worthington's fall was hard. He went from the lead in the highest grossing movie of all time to supporting roles in low budget action movies within four years. Really you can only say Zoe Saldana has raised her profile since Avatar. Incidentally, by trading in the blue skinned alien for a green-skinned alien (who, coincidentally, has a blue skinned alien sister). |
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Mar 13, 2021 13:32:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 13:59:19 GMT -5
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Mar 13, 2021 14:38:27 GMT -5
The real winner is Zoe Saldana.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 14:41:59 GMT -5
I saw the movie on TV a year or two later and absolutely hated it. Ended up fast-forwarding through most of the climax.
The lasting legacy of that movie to me is mostly just in having no sympathy whatsoever for the Na'vi. It's an understandable plight but they're such assholes that I find it impossible to actually care about their struggle.
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Post by Fade on Mar 13, 2021 15:05:30 GMT -5
Oh Avatar. The f***ing oddball film child that somehow could still keep coulding.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 13, 2021 15:12:31 GMT -5
Avatar is something that only has any impact experienced in the cinema, it's basically a theme park ride. You leave talking about how great a experience seeing it was, you don't care about the plot or the characters, you enjoy the visuals and that's what you remember, and unfortunately, that film that looked really neat doesn't impact you the way the culmination of a decade worth of storytelling and worldbuilding does.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 13, 2021 15:38:14 GMT -5
It's kind of amazing that the enduring legacy of the highest grossing film of all time is collective wonder at that fact.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 13, 2021 15:50:35 GMT -5
I'm fully convinced Cameron is laundering money to make the box office for Avatar beat everything else. I think I've literally met one person that liked it.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Mar 13, 2021 16:01:41 GMT -5
I enjoyed Avatar and the last half an hour is James Cameron at his finest.
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