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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 1:58:20 GMT -5
I don't think Drew's in much danger of being booed. I think the bigger concern is how basically after Lashley there is just nobody left who's a viable challenger for him unless you move Roman or Edge over.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 29, 2021 2:07:43 GMT -5
I don't think Drew's in much danger of being booed. I think the bigger concern is how basically after Lashley there is just nobody left who's a viable challenger for him unless you move Roman or Edge over. Yeah, they brought Priest up and he was a sure fire thing until they literally just stopped using him in the Bad Bunny Build and now he's just a cornerman so... his momentum's halted, and Keith Lee even before his absence from TV wasn't exactly being booked as a force either. The only other option I can imagine is if Kross or Cole end up on RAW after Mania to challenge the champion, in which case well... god help them. In Cole's case though I think he needs to see if he can make it on the main roster at this point and either swim or move on while he still has a prime left due to the options he'd have...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 3:37:42 GMT -5
And what's happening because of that? People are speculating he might get booed because he's been booked "TOO strong". WWE can just never seem to get the balance right. It's always "Strong babyface making the heels look ineffectual and useless" or "Strong heel making the babyfaces look ineffectual and useless". But I don't think you can have a hard alternating pattern of "Good guy stands tall, bad guy stands tall" week-to-week, people will pick up on that shit like they do every other trope. You have to create balance somehow without openly creating balance. The solution would be to not have the face and heel in a feud engaging in physical brawling every week, so there wouldn't have to be a "one guy stands tall over the other" situation every week. Remember when HHH and Austin couldn't lay their hands on each other in the weeks leading up to their 3 Stages of Hell match? I'm surprised they haven't done something like that since then (unless they did and I wasn't watching at the time)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2021 4:16:51 GMT -5
Fun thing to think about if Bryan DOES win: He would be the first guy in WWE (maybe the only one depending on how things go) to have won the World Heavyweight Championship, the WWE Championship and the Universal Championship. Same goes for if Edge wins.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 29, 2021 4:36:11 GMT -5
Honestly while he's the most likable of the three Bryan isn't a terribly good hero right now either. He'll get cheers because it's Bryan, but on SmackDown he basically just whined for awhile, kept going on and on about how he made Roman tap in a way that came off really egotistical, and then jumped Edge only to get his ass kicked. I'm glad I'm not the only who thought that the way Bryan got into this main event made him look like a total whiner. Unlike in the build up of WrestleMania XXX where the storyline was that management thoroughly denied him entry into any serious title opportunities and there was pent up demand to see Bryan in the position, Bryan was given the same opportunities that everyone else had and came up short every time. He was allowed in the Royal Rumble this time, and lost despite entering in the second half of the match while Edge outlasted the entire field and even a sneak attack from a rested up Orton. Bryan was put at a disadvantage at Elimination Chamber, but that would have happened to any of the six in the match. And while he did phantom tap Roman at Fastlane, is it really justification to insert him in the same match as the Royal Rumble winner? This sort of thing happens in every heel champion title defense and the world moves on. Hell, Kevin Owens was the rightful winner of the Last Man Standing match at the Royal Rumble (and you don't even need the handcuff botch to make that argument, but it gets into actual conspiracy territory if you do, which is the sort of thing this Daniel Bryan insertion really needs), but even he moved on after being screwed out of several title matches and isn't strongarming himself into opportunities that belong to someone else. It really comes off like they are playing off the WrestleMania XXX build, but without any of the undertones that made Daniel Bryan the sympathetic figure he was all those years ago. Also, no live crowds means that you don't get the feeling that the people are dying to see Daniel Bryan main event WrestleMania one more time. If they ran this exact angle in a no-pandemic timeline and people started booing Edge the same way they booed Batista for being a part-timer and chanting for Daniel Bryan every time Roman and Edge interact, it would be different. But we don't have that, so Bryan's claim to a title re-match just falls flat.
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Post by CMWaters on Mar 29, 2021 6:46:01 GMT -5
Fun thing to think about if Bryan DOES win: He would be the first guy in WWE (maybe the only one depending on how things go) to have won the World Heavyweight Championship, the WWE Championship and the Universal Championship. Same goes for if Edge wins. ...huh, how I didn't realize that I dunno.
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Post by nisidhe on Mar 29, 2021 7:26:30 GMT -5
Why did they waste a Rumble win and winner from no.1 spot if they don't trust Edge? I would have preferred Edge/Reigns which is big enough on it's own to main event. tbh, i'm bored of Bryan weaseling into title matches during rumble-mania season and it's not the first time either and this looks like a rehash of WM XXX all over again. Give him a rumble win and get it over with. Simple. Edge is nearing 50 and has had neck surgery; it would be a bad look if Wrestlemania ended with Edge going out on a striker board, or worse. Vince doesn't want to take that chance without a way out that he can call an audible to do. In Daniel Bryan they have a somewhat younger, wily veteran with enough actual wrestling background that he can protect himself...to an extent. Right now he's the only real bonafide babyface-ish character on Smackdown in the position to challenge credibly for the Universal title. He's their McGuffin - either he's pushed out HBK-style so Edge gets the pin on Roman or he's the one who takes it all. It will all depend on how the match goes. Let's be honest, though: none of them are 100% and things for any of them can change in a heartbeat. With a three-way, you've got all sorts of ways to save the match if you have to.
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Post by polarbearpete on Mar 29, 2021 9:08:12 GMT -5
Why did they waste a Rumble win and winner from no.1 spot if they don't trust Edge? I would have preferred Edge/Reigns which is big enough on it's own to main event. tbh, i'm bored of Bryan weaseling into title matches during rumble-mania season and it's not the first time either and this looks like a rehash of WM XXX all over again. Give him a rumble win and get it over with. Simple. Edge is nearing 50 and has had neck surgery; it would be a bad look if Wrestlemania ended with Edge going out on a striker board, or worse. Vince doesn't want to take that chance without a way out that he can call an audible to do. In Daniel Bryan they have a somewhat younger, wily veteran with enough actual wrestling background that he can protect himself...to an extent. Right now he's the only real bonafide babyface-ish character on Smackdown in the position to challenge credibly for the Universal title. He's their McGuffin - either he's pushed out HBK-style so Edge gets the pin on Roman or he's the one who takes it all. It will all depend on how the match goes. Let's be honest, though: none of them are 100% and things for any of them can change in a heartbeat. With a three-way, you've got all sorts of ways to save the match if you have to. You think they’re going out there to call the finish of the main event of WrestleMania on the fly?
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Post by nisidhe on Mar 29, 2021 10:47:08 GMT -5
Simple. Edge is nearing 50 and has had neck surgery; it would be a bad look if Wrestlemania ended with Edge going out on a striker board, or worse. Vince doesn't want to take that chance without a way out that he can call an audible to do. In Daniel Bryan they have a somewhat younger, wily veteran with enough actual wrestling background that he can protect himself...to an extent. Right now he's the only real bonafide babyface-ish character on Smackdown in the position to challenge credibly for the Universal title. He's their McGuffin - either he's pushed out HBK-style so Edge gets the pin on Roman or he's the one who takes it all. It will all depend on how the match goes. Let's be honest, though: none of them are 100% and things for any of them can change in a heartbeat. With a three-way, you've got all sorts of ways to save the match if you have to. You think they’re going out there to call the finish of the main event of WrestleMania on the fly? Given the way the booking's been lately, I wouldn't be surprised, to be honest.
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Mar 29, 2021 11:15:22 GMT -5
Honestly while he's the most likable of the three Bryan isn't a terribly good hero right now either. He'll get cheers because it's Bryan, but on SmackDown he basically just whined for awhile, kept going on and on about how he made Roman tap in a way that came off really egotistical, and then jumped Edge only to get his ass kicked. I'm glad I'm not the only who thought that the way Bryan got into this main event made him look like a total whiner. Unlike in the build up of WrestleMania XXX where the storyline was that management thoroughly denied him entry into any serious title opportunities and there was pent up demand to see Bryan in the position, Bryan was given the same opportunities that everyone else had and came up short every time. He was allowed in the Royal Rumble this time, and lost despite entering in the second half of the match while Edge outlasted the entire field and even a sneak attack from a rested up Orton. Bryan was put at a disadvantage at Elimination Chamber, but that would have happened to any of the six in the match. And while he did phantom tap Roman at Fastlane, is it really justification to insert him in the same match as the Royal Rumble winner? This sort of thing happens in every heel champion title defense and the world moves on. Hell, Kevin Owens was the rightful winner of the Last Man Standing match at the Royal Rumble (and you don't even need the handcuff botch to make that argument, but it gets into actual conspiracy territory if you do, which is the sort of thing this Daniel Bryan insertion really needs), but even he moved on after being screwed out of several title matches and isn't strongarming himself into opportunities that belong to someone else. It really comes off like they are playing off the WrestleMania XXX build, but without any of the undertones that made Daniel Bryan the sympathetic figure he was all those years ago. Also, no live crowds means that you don't get the feeling that the people are dying to see Daniel Bryan main event WrestleMania one more time. If they ran this exact angle in a no-pandemic timeline and people started booing Edge the same way they booed Batista for being a part-timer and chanting for Daniel Bryan every time Roman and Edge interact, it would be different. But we don't have that, so Bryan's claim to a title re-match just falls flat. You're not wrong & I say this as a hardcore Daniel Bryan fan
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