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Post by wildojinx on May 16, 2021 9:11:40 GMT -5
Austin turning heel in 2001. There was nowhere Austin could go as a face anymore, and the only person he could have feuded with was HHH, which means they would have had to drag out that feud even longer. At least heel Austin got to wrestle different guys and he also slightly changed his style.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2021 9:48:46 GMT -5
I loved Jinder Mahal's run with the title.
It could've been booked better but it felt fresh and being a big fan of his since his debut, seeing him come back from his release, make that transformation and look like a genuine star was a mark out moment for me.
I know a lot of people will groan at the thought of it... But I honestly hope he gets another run with the strap.
A feud with McIntyre could be real good if written right.
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Post by mc74 on May 16, 2021 9:58:21 GMT -5
Austin turning heel in 2001. There was nowhere Austin could go as a face anymore, and the only person he could have feuded with was HHH, which means they would have had to drag out that feud even longer. At least heel Austin got to wrestle different guys and he also slightly changed his style. Have to agree with Austin's heel turn in 2001. At that point, there was very little left to do with Austin as a face, so the heel turn helped freshen up things in that regard. It's just too bad much of it got overshadowed by the awful Invasion angle.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 16, 2021 10:33:57 GMT -5
Hunter being a long term champion from 02-05 was generally the right call and it made him losing mean a ton when he finally lost the belt. Now I wouldn't have always booked RAW the way they did with the long promo to start every show but he should've had the belt with people constantly chasing him until they found the right guy and they eventually did with Batista.
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Post by mc74 on May 16, 2021 10:45:25 GMT -5
Hunter being a long term champion from 02-05 was generally the right call and it made him losing mean a ton when he finally lost the belt. Now I wouldn't have always booked RAW the way they did with the long promo to start every show but he should've had the belt with people constantly chasing him until they found the right guy and they eventually did with Batista. Agreed. HHH at the time was the perennial heel within WWE, and having him hold the belt long-term made it all the more memorable when he was dethroned. Case in point, Wrestlemania XX and 21.
The one thing I strongly disagreed with however, is what happened to Orton at Unforgiven 2004. That shouldn't have happened, nor should have Evolution turned on him that early.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on May 16, 2021 11:19:10 GMT -5
Just no. With everything that was said towards Booker and the extremely negative connotations associated with the angle, Booker should’ve wiped the floor with Hunter, giving him his much needed comeuppance.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on May 16, 2021 11:45:51 GMT -5
Brock beating the streak was a fantastic idea and produced exactly the type of moment wrestling bookers should be dreaming of. It would have been hard for any other wrestler to live up to being the person that beat the streak. Every creative decision for that wrestler would have been picked apart by fans from that moment onward because they were the one that WWE chose to beat the streak, so they better have been worth it. Lesnar was the safest choice, and therefore probably the right one, even if someone else would have been elevated more. Bray Wyatt would have been a good passing of the torch from one horror character to another, but it would have made WWE's inevitable dropping of the ball with the Wyatt Family that much worse. I'm kind of okay with Mabel's 1995 push. Yeah, the results were awful, but they needed to build up a big monster heel to go up against Diesel, and I think it was worth taking a chance. I think the 1995 King of the Ring would have been better with saving Mabel vs Undertaker for the finals. The final should have been a main eventer putting over a midcarder. Having two midcarders at the end kind of sucked a lot of hype out of the tournament.
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Post by glorious83 on May 16, 2021 11:48:47 GMT -5
I loved Jinder Mahal's run with the title. It could've been booked better but it felt fresh and being a big fan of his since his debut, seeing him come back from his release, make that transformation and look like a genuine star was a mark out moment for me. I know a lot of people will groan at the thought of it... But I honestly hope he gets another run with the strap. A feud with McIntyre could be real good if written right. I agree you are one of the very few who liked this. I did not but then again I’m one of the few who enjoy Kross in NXT while it seems the majority of people don’t.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 16, 2021 12:23:27 GMT -5
In retrospect, Triple H was completely right not to put over RVD.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 16, 2021 12:28:35 GMT -5
The decision to not make CM Punk "the guy" He's so abrasive to be the face of the company, if there had to be one. CM Punk is one of my favorite wrestlers all time and I agree with him about a lot of the things he says that piss some people off. That said, Yeah, while Punk should have absolutely been A Guy in WWE, he never would have been able to handle being THE Guy.
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Post by fw91 on May 16, 2021 12:39:48 GMT -5
Not doing anything with Ricochet or The Revival.
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Post by fw91 on May 16, 2021 12:40:30 GMT -5
Making John Cena the guy.
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Post by anglarite on May 16, 2021 13:52:52 GMT -5
I liked Stardust.
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Post by SAJ Forth on May 16, 2021 13:55:56 GMT -5
My own one. I know a lot of people hate the Summerslam 2015 Taker/Brock finish. (Summary: Brock makes Taker tap to the kimura. Taker taps underneath Brock, the ref doesn't see it but the timekeeper does. Timekeeper rings the bell, referee is utterly confused as he didn't call for the bell and goes to argue with the timekeeper which allows Taker to punch Brock in the dick and then lock him in the Hell's Gate. Brock flips Taker off before ultimately passing out for the technical submission.) Most people's problem is why did the timekeeper ring the bell without the ref's call? I like it because it was so important that Taker tapped for the first time that the timekeeper completely forgot himself and marked out. I also like the idea (this was never stated, just what I'm inferring) that Taker was so much more savvy than Brock that he intentionally tapped in a place the ref wouldn't see, hoping that it would make Brock release the hold, but still keep the match intact. The fact the timekeeper reacted was just an added bonus for Taker and allowed the opening for the low blow. I always thought it wasn't bad. I would've preferred the WM & Summerslam finishes swapped. Lesnar with a major chip on his shoulder being denied the win sees him destroying everyone in order to prove he had it.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on May 16, 2021 14:08:58 GMT -5
I c It's common to express "controversial" opinions that run counter to WWE's creative decisions. Examples: "Chad Gable deserves a push," "The Attitude Era was overrated," and "The Iron Man Match at WrestleMania XII may be highly-regarded by both fans and the company, but to me it was a slog and what was up with that 0-0 tie at the end of the time limit?" But I'm here to ask about times when it's controversial to say that WWE got it right. Here's my example: The ending of the Summerslam 2010 main event. To me it seems like everybody complains that WWE got this one wrong and that Nexus should have won. But I disagree with that disagreement. To have a team with Cena, Edge, Jericho, Hall of Famer Bret Hart, and Daniel Bryan (the best member of the Nexus in the first place) lose to a team that included Michael Tarver, Darren Young, Justin Gabriel, Heath Slater, and David Otunga would have been ridiculous and it would have buried the members of Team WWE. And as for Wade Barrett, who probably would have benefited most from a Nexus victory, the guy was pushed way too fast anyway and didn't look credible in his title feuds because he wasn't ready, not because he didn't win the main event of Summerslam after less than three months on the main roster. I say it was the right decision to quell the Nexus at Summerslam 2010, what are some situations where you feel alone in saying WWE was right? I can agree with the decisions but how in the blue hell would the WWE team have been buried?
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on May 16, 2021 14:09:47 GMT -5
I like a lot of the ideas behind Rikishi being the man who ran over Austin. Rikishi had the physique to be a monster heel and it was clever to link it to the real world implications of Austin's absence (ie The Rock becoming a bigger and more successful star with Austin AWOL). The mistake was the change being too sudden (even though Kish was upper midcard he was still doing comedy spots which should've been fazed out before the turn) and not changing enough about him after the turn, he was still doing stinkfaces in his sumo thong when he was supposed to be a despised badass. He was booked like crap too. The Austin match at No Mercy was a squash and he was made to look like a fool in his failed run-in for the Angle/Rock title match. This was EXACTLY the one I was going to say. I don't want to put the problem at the feet of the Rock, because I don't know who was making what decisions. But after like the very first night, he really did not keep trying to actually do some acting and portray the ambivalence his character was supposed to have, and then when he fell back into his old character and did a mocking promo, that's what really killed Rikishi's heel character. Although yes absolutely Rikishi needed a new costume and he needed to dominate his opponents with new power moves, the other big problem is the storyline required Rocky to be a tweener and they were not going to commit to that. And I got another one: Hornswoggle as a McMahon. I loved loved LOVED the way they did the reveal, gradually whittling down the entire roster (although I really coulda lived without HHH being involved so much). But I especially liked the way it was this joke.... until Hornswoggle was like, "Um, yeah I'm a grown-up and I have a lot of power here and I'm going to use it." It's the closest I've been to interested in a McMahon storyline.... kinda ever. But again, they couldn't commit.
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Post by Mike Strike on May 16, 2021 14:12:28 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar was probably as good a choice as any to beat the Undertaker. If they had given it to an up & comer, that would put a lot of pressure on because ending the streak can only happen once. If the rookie never matured into a believable main eventer, or WWE got cold feet with them later on, the streak would've been ended for nothing.
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Post by Square on May 16, 2021 15:35:02 GMT -5
The most controversal one I got was that looking back I kinda really like the Kerwin White character and obviously it got dropped due to the passing of Eddie but I would have loved to see where Chavo could have gone with it
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Post by chazraps on May 16, 2021 15:36:11 GMT -5
You have to explain this one.
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Post by fw91 on May 16, 2021 16:11:18 GMT -5
You have to explain this one. Admittedly, I was very ignorant to the feud and don't remember a lot of the racial undertones of the story. If I did, I'd probably react differently. Anyway, even though this was a WHC match, imo it was treated as an Undercard feud and match on a stacked mania 19 card. At the time, I thought Booker was just an upper mid-carder and a filler challenger while the higher profiled talent were doing bigger things on the show. Booker really didn't have much momentum prior to winning the battle royal. I didn't expect him to win that match. Then again, I was so sure that Kevin Nash was winning that HIAC match a few months later, so what the hell do I know lol.
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