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Post by The Rick Jericho on May 22, 2021 20:12:46 GMT -5
The consensus is yes, most people didn't enjoy this version of the nWo in WWE. Due to Hall fading away and the watered down version before Nash went down.
Could the nWo with Michaels, Nash, X-Pac, Big Show and Booker T have gone a little further if they let it go on longer? And have Goldust be the 1999 version of Wolfpac wannabe Disco Inferno for comedic humor?
Were you a fan in 2002?
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Post by johnnyk9 on May 22, 2021 20:17:15 GMT -5
I actually thought adding Shawn Michaels was a good idea they definitely needed that kind of leadership after Hogan was turned face. I was actually their that night in Philly when Nash tore his quad didn’t think that was going to be the end but it was
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on May 22, 2021 20:21:49 GMT -5
They were pretty much dead in the water after the reaction Hogan got at Mania 18. And even before that, they were having a hard time getting him over as a heel. But you just weren't going to get a WWF audience to boo him. Especially one that had grown up with Hulkamania and were now teens/young adults bitten by the nostalgia bug.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on May 22, 2021 20:25:29 GMT -5
I actually thought adding Shawn Michaels was a good idea they definitely needed that kind of leadership after Hogan was turned face. I was actually their that night in Philly when Nash tore his quad didn’t think that was going to be the end but it was You put Hunter in Nash's place and ride out HBK/HHH/X-Pac and Big Show. You can get some momentum from that. And if HHH was going to get his reign of terror, why not have the nWo protecting him too. By ending it too soon, I felt like they just left merchandise money on the table. There would be money in that in terms of merchandise being sold and adding to the nWo legacy. Plus, whoever is assigned the roll of going through each member of the nWo one by one, before dismantling the group, would also get a rub. Heck, Goldberg coming in and going through the nWo in 2003 would add some fuel to the HHH and Goldberg feud. With Goldberg having to go through the nWo yet again, to win the World title again. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2021 22:37:47 GMT -5
The actual visual of them in the WWE was cool, but the storyline sucked.
Also, after Hogan turned face I totally would have been down with The Kliq being the NWO. However much like every other NWO storyline ever attempted, their WWE run did in fact end with a wet fart.
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Post by sportatorium on May 22, 2021 23:32:39 GMT -5
Much like WCW, they didn’t stop when they should have. Hall & Nash could have beat down Hogan the night after Mania & called the NWO dead before starting on something else. Vince wanted to keep selling shirts, so they kept adding guys when it should have been long gone.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 23, 2021 7:26:51 GMT -5
I thought it had a lot of fun moments, and it definitely helped Booker T and Goldust endear themselves, but it was also really snakebitten. Injuries, Hall's substance abuse problems, not great timing with the draft where WWE put like all the main eventers on Smackdown for some reason... a mix of bad decisions and bad luck really hurt.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on May 23, 2021 8:54:11 GMT -5
It was a cool visual seeing Hogan, Hall and Nash in the nWo gear on WWE but it all felt so watered down right from the get go. Felt forced.
However, post WrestleMania was one of those things you could tell was a complete and utter train wreck but it was pretty fun while it was going on.
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Post by bob on May 23, 2021 9:02:13 GMT -5
They dead in the water at Wrestlemania 18 when the crowd refused to boo Hogan.
Shawn returning after that was nice, but overall it didn't really work even -- if the nWo's arrival led to one of the best matches in Wrestlemania history.
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Post by crowley1986 on May 23, 2021 9:09:14 GMT -5
If i was to book it again, At Survivor Series WWE wins over WCW, hold off bringing back the alliance members, NWO appears at NoWayOut and they bring the Alliance as members and re do the invasion properly
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Post by The Rick Jericho on May 23, 2021 11:50:16 GMT -5
If i was to book it again, At Survivor Series WWE wins over WCW, hold off bringing back the alliance members, NWO appears at NoWayOut and they bring the Alliance as members and re do the invasion properly Sting finally comes in as well. Warns the WWF about the nWo and we get the 1996 Bash at the Beach match all over again, but at Wrestlemania X-8. Hogan, Hall and Nash vs. Austin, Rock and Sting. The roof would blow off the Skydome! |
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Post by prettynami on May 23, 2021 12:58:29 GMT -5
I liked it, but I thought it could have been so much better. Like almost everything WCW in WWE they ended up coming off as sort of a joke. It probably didn't help that everything that could go wrong seemed to go wrong, so maybe they felt it was cursed.
I have to parrot what a bunch of other people said. HHH should have joined, they should linked the backstage stuff with the story cause everyone knew he was buds with half the nWo.
I will say I rather enjoyed how it was introduced, that an unhinged Mr. McMahon brought them in to kill the product "like it did to WCW". I thought that was interesting, and was an actual coherent explanation of why they would be brought in. It also would have given an escape for the WWE guys when they eventually think "maybe that isn't a good idea".
And it also gives a way for the WCW guys and WWE guys to eventually unite, since the WCW guys can warn them or whatever.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2021 13:17:44 GMT -5
It was fine.
Hall and Nash’s star power had really fallen by that point. Compared to Austin, Taker, Rock. They just didn’t feel on the same level.
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Post by adamclark52 on May 23, 2021 17:32:08 GMT -5
It was cool enough at the time but when I watch it now it feels really wrong
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Post by fw91 on May 23, 2021 17:54:17 GMT -5
It was cool enough at the time but when I watch it now it feels really wrong Yeah, this feels pretty accurate. |
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Post by Cyno on May 23, 2021 18:00:48 GMT -5
The way they got brought back in was interesting. Like, the original storyline of the Outsiders and the first incarnation of the nWo was an implied WWF-backed invasion of WCW. That element quickly went by the wayside, but I like the idea coming full circle, with McMahon bringing back the nWo to invade and kill the now Ric Flair-owned WWE.
That said, nWo 2002 quickly went south. Poor execution, Hogan's reaction at Mania, and Scott Hall's demons coming back to haunt him saw to that. But I did like the idea of it being a reincarnation of the Kliq and having HBK join. It felt very appropriate.
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Post by sungod2020 on May 23, 2021 18:59:43 GMT -5
I liked it, but I thought it could have been so much better. Like almost everything WCW in WWE they ended up coming off as sort of a joke. It probably didn't help that everything that could go wrong seemed to go wrong, so maybe they felt it was cursed. I have to parrot what a bunch of other people said. HHH should have joined, they should linked the backstage stuff with the story cause everyone knew he was buds with half the nWo. I will say I rather enjoyed how it was introduced, that an unhinged Mr. McMahon brought them in to kill the product "like it did to WCW". I thought that was interesting, and was an actual coherent explanation of why they would be brought in. It also would have given an escape for the WWE guys when they eventually think "maybe that isn't a good idea".And it also gives a way for the WCW guys and WWE guys to eventually unite, since the WCW guys can warn them or whatever. I too liked the build and how Vince McMahon wanted to get back at Ric Flair for owning half of "his" creation. In fact, that storyline brought us a nice video package of the history of the WWF. The problem with the nWo in the F(as it was in WCW, minus the overdoing it and bad booking part) was, after they take over/kill the company, what happens next? Do they only wrestle each other? It's one of those things that is cool when you first think about, but when you get to their end goal, you kinda draw a blank. |
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Post by Instant Classic on May 23, 2021 22:15:06 GMT -5
Yes, Shawn would have been a good leader. HBK, Nash, Pac, Hall vs Triple H would have been cool.
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Post by Aceorton on May 23, 2021 22:20:35 GMT -5
The brand split right around the same time is what made it especially laughable for me. They lost Hogan. They lost Hall. Nash got hurt. Flair's suddenly the leader. And now you have a ragtag group of guys claiming to be the New World Order for one watered-down half of the company.
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on May 23, 2021 22:46:48 GMT -5
I did at first. I remember being super excited that Hogan, Hall and Nash were coming back to the WWF and of course since I was really a WCW fan still trying to hold on to my interest in wrestling at that point, I rooted hard for the NWO, and I was never the biggest Rock fan so I rooted for Hogan big time.
But I think I realize that I was more excited for Hogan coming back than just the NWO, because after Hogan turned face and went to Smackdown, I really didn’t care much about the NWO after that and they weren’t really that exciting after that and I rode the Hulkamania nostalgia tour for as long as it happened.
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