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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Jun 14, 2021 0:04:00 GMT -5
She really needs to be showing off her butt like Lashley used to do.
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Post by pinja on Jun 14, 2021 0:05:29 GMT -5
Under that lighting her back muscles are like her personality: I'm sure it's there - just not very visibly.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 14, 2021 6:29:39 GMT -5
Like it's so weird with her in that she's a 6 foot tall woman who towers over everyone and even seems fairly decent in the ring. Yet she's just so uninteresting and has no star aura to her what so ever. She's really an anomaly in that I can't really think of anyone else like that in all my years that I've been watching.
I don't think her push should come to surprise. It's no different like it's always been with the men. If your that big and are at least decent in the ring your probably going to get a very fair shake and plenty of opportunities. Honestly though it's really not looking like she's the answer. Looking at their roster I don't really know who is. Most of the women in NXT are good wrestlers but there's really no one that really screams long term champ who you can build a division around either.
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Post by Spider2024 on Jun 14, 2021 6:33:09 GMT -5
Brauns such a dipshit. He thinks he's better than the "marks"
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 14, 2021 6:37:18 GMT -5
I don't really mind that she beat Io, since Io needed to lose the title but no one was really going to be a perfect choice since she's just kind on a different level than everyone and the reign had gone on so long. So, I think anyone was going to be step down, it kind of had to be.
Raquel, though, just isn't that over and doesn't have a lot to her. If they don't stretch the reign out that much longer, it'd be the biggest favor they could do for her.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 14, 2021 6:41:18 GMT -5
I don't really mind that she beat Io, since Io needed to lose the title but no one was really going to be a perfect choice since she's just kind on a different level than everyone and the reign had gone on so long. So, I think anyone was going to be step down, it kind of had to be. Raquel, though, just isn't that over and doesn't have a lot to her. If they don't stretch the reign out that much longer, it'd be the biggest favor they could do for her. Have Shotzi beat her for a surprise title win, and then have Franky take the title from Shotzi. This allows Raquel to grow and gain momentum without the title albatross around her.
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Post by XIII on Jun 14, 2021 6:49:28 GMT -5
I’m sure that it’s probably the lighting but everything just looks flat there. Don’t see much definition. 🤷🏻♂️
We need to get SummerSlam 88 announcer Superstar Billy Graham to investigate
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Post by eJm on Jun 14, 2021 6:51:16 GMT -5
Her lack of character or development has stagnated to an agonizing level. Being an improved wrestler isn’t good enough. Yeah, they really need to do more with her than Flex Latina. Quick question; Why isn't she called Flex Latina? That sounds badass as hell.
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Post by mistery on Jun 14, 2021 8:05:07 GMT -5
So after sleeping on this, here are the actual notable problems with Raquel and her title reign:
- As a character, she's completely bland. Every little bit of her is just so lifeless and corporate from her looks, to her entrance attire, to even her music.
- A friend pretty much called her the women's version of Karrion Kross, with his logic being that Dakota is the vastly superior of the two.
- Braun being an idiot and lashing out at fans for criticizing her and not liking her reign doesn't do her any favors.
- Her liking the tweets from him specifically targeting her coworkers leads me to believe that she isn't incredibly well liked behind the scenes by them.
- WWE constantly trying to spin her as a huge dominating force and a badass ends up backfiring massively like last night where she couldn't win without Dakota constantly interfering.
- Her actual wrestling would be okay on the main roster, but in NXT her style is "generic big woman #27".
- Her matches are laid out in a very weird format in that she gets her ass beat for like 95% of the match but then wins out of nowhere basically. It makes her look even worse, and the person who faces her look like a loser as well.
Part of me wonders if Triple H is intentionally pushing Kross and Gonzalez like this to piss people off, mainly out of pure spite that his product isn't being seen super favorably anymore. NXT for the most part quality wise has fallen off a cliff ever since Kross and Gonzalez became champions, and the vast majority of the interest in the brand is the non-title stuff. Doesn't help that on the go-home show for NXT, no one was talking about Raquel when it came to the women's stuff. Everyone was talking about Io and Poppy.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 14, 2021 8:12:08 GMT -5
By wrestling standards those aren't even especially impressive back and arm muscles
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Post by PKO on Jun 14, 2021 8:18:03 GMT -5
I think she’s massively improved, and if she continues on this trajectory I think in two years time or so she’ll be really good. It’s nice to have a hoss in the women’s division who can take moves and dish out impressive feats of strength.
But at the moment she just doesn’t come across like a champion to me. She lacks that fabled “it” factor. I would have liked Dakota as a chicken-shit heel champion who uses Raquel as her muscle to stay at the top. It would have been something new for the division, to have a sneaky heel as champion, and the story is there for the split down the line.
It’s just starting to feel like they went in the wrong direction. Raquel’s not even doing anything wrong, I just don’t think she’s found her spark yet, and the NXT Women’s title has been one of the best booked titles in WWE for nearly a decade now. When something isn’t good it stands out.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 14, 2021 8:23:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I was not impressed at all last night. My partner loves giant women (not tryna be funny, this is how I talk them into watching sometimes) and Raquel got crickets from her.
My partner loves Tamina, y’all. TAMINA! That’s how low her bar is and Raquel still missed it
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 14, 2021 8:27:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I was not impressed at all last night. My partner loves giant women (not tryna be funny, this is how I talk them into watching sometimes) and Raquel got crickets from her. My partner loves Tamina, y’all. TAMINA! That’s how low her bar is and Raquel still missed it Your partner and I should compare some notes. Hope they've seen Jade Cargill...
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Post by mistery on Jun 14, 2021 9:34:03 GMT -5
We'll see if it affects her at all (probably not but who knows) but during Braun's idiotic tweetstorm last night, he went after a fan who is a veteran. Raquel liked all of those tweets attacking said fan and encouraged Braun.
The last time a WWE star went after a veteran in a fit of rage was Baron Corbin and he still hasn't recovered from the burial he got. The one way to kill any support you may have with management behind the scenes is targeting a fan who is a veteran of war, even if they are in the wrong.
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Post by theironyuppie on Jun 14, 2021 11:24:09 GMT -5
- Her matches are laid out in a very weird format in that she gets her ass beat for like 95% of the match but then wins out of nowhere basically. It makes her look even worse, and the person who faces her look like a loser as well. I think this is a reasonable point. NXT seemingly wants to present Raquel as a monster heel, then her actual match layouts are done so competitively (or even have the small face kicking her ass for most of the match) that it undermines the presentation. Booking her more dominantly might make the matches less entertaining in the traditional NXT sense, but might be better for the character and make it feel bigger when someone does manage to overcome her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 12:32:37 GMT -5
Are Braun and Raquel dating?
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Post by dbrussel on Jun 14, 2021 17:03:41 GMT -5
Best part is those muscles are not that impressive. Look at Beth's for example
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jun 15, 2021 20:18:30 GMT -5
"Am I Sonya DeVille or not?"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2021 20:36:53 GMT -5
There's too many wrestlers as a whole without a character or gimmick.
Not just Raquel but almost everyone.
I miss when everyone had a gimmick, a character, a catchphrase, a unique ring attire... now all I see is a bunch of "regular guys and women" who are having the same meaningless matches over and over again with no character arc or in-depth storytelling. None of these matches matter because I can't tell you the difference in Sonya Deville and Raquel Gonzalez as people. What makes them different? If they were both wrestling each other, who should I want to win and what difference does it make?
In the 90s you could distinguish the characters. Bret Hart was different to Diesel, Taker, Shawn, Backlund, Lawler, etc for example. None of these guys were the same. Even in the Attitude Era, Rock/Austin/Angle/Jericho/Foley/HHH were all DIFFERENT. They didn't act the same or dress the same.
On top of that, I am sick of wrestlers having "tribute" attires. This is your shot to be your OWN character. Why are you dressing up like Spiderman, Iron Man and guys from Game of Thrones? It just makes them look like cosplayers. You wouldn't see this back in the day because the characters WWE had were just as unique as the characters from anywhere else.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jun 15, 2021 20:46:05 GMT -5
They're literally pushing her because she's big and her dad ran Shawn Michaels wrestling school.. nepotism at it's finest. Also she's really really good looking.
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