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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 25, 2021 2:51:01 GMT -5
Where did say he would come back if the money was right? This all sounds like nonsensical speculation Nah he’s done interviews where they point break asked him what it would take to come back and his response was always “in a businessman so I’d listen” and then he basically said a lot of $. Citation?
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Post by dgenerationmc on Jul 25, 2021 3:26:10 GMT -5
1. Cash
2. Creative
WWE has a ton of one thing and not the most encouraging standard of the other.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jul 25, 2021 3:39:02 GMT -5
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Post by JCBaggee on Jul 25, 2021 4:22:38 GMT -5
Honestly, and I say this as a Punk mark who would be stoked to see him back in the ring, I feel the most likely outcome is that nothing happens, and in five years we find out Punk was ready to sign until news sites and dirt sheets reported he already had and he backed out just to spite them.
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Post by PKO on Jul 25, 2021 4:36:50 GMT -5
I can’t see him coming back to WWE seeing as everything that was a problem for him back then is even worse now lol
I also sadly don’t want to see him back at the moment because I don’t have confidence that the company would make his return fulfilling.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 25, 2021 4:53:04 GMT -5
This sounds like some misery porn fantasy, and I'm not getting off on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 5:07:00 GMT -5
Say what you will about JR, but he has a point when he said everything is always about cash or creative. I'm sure Punk was making plenty of cash in his years with WWE, and he seems to have saved it and been smart. The previously quoted interview all but says it.
In short, Vince could back up a dump truck of cash to his lawn and it probably wouldn't matter unless they gave him a storyline in writing that's set in stone that he could sink his teeth into. Vince parts with money way easier than he parts with control, so I don't see that happening.
If anything, AEW's lighter schedule and the fresher matchups there are probably going to mean a lot more than money.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 25, 2021 5:36:13 GMT -5
If Punk cared about money he would have gone back to WWE by now.
He seems to actually care about a wrestling run. Which is what got the AEW talks going in the first place. I think he wants to end his career on a much higher note in a place that wouldn't realistically make him miserable. Also with AEW much more financially sound and seemingly here to stay for a long time, I imagine the talks and discussions have gone much better than the first time they reached out to Punk.
What I'm saying if if Punk returns to wrestling? It's gonna be AEW. And the thought of him going to AEW bringing out these types of takes is truly hilarious no matter if he goes to AEW or not lol.
But by the sounds of things? He and Bryan seem like locks. Bryan probably more so, but it's an exciting time to be a wrestling fan.
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Post by eJm on Jul 25, 2021 5:45:53 GMT -5
Psst, you're supposed to give the other quote. You know, the one that squares up with the views the OP didn't cite himself.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 25, 2021 5:53:05 GMT -5
Psst, you're supposed to give the other quote. You know, the one that squares up with the views the OP didn't cite himself. I haven't personally seen him say it, but I could buy Punk maybe at some point gave a boiler plate, "I'd listen" to the concept of being offered something serious, but it was likely something as non-committal as that, since yeah, like Ric's quote shows, his priorities aren't really monetary. For as embarrassing as the UFC crab-walk run was, he was probably well compensated, and he's done stuff outside of that in his time post-WWE wrestling whenever he gets the itch. It'd take more than a lot of zeroes to get his attention, though I'm sure his ego doesn't mind seeing the numbers.
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Post by King Devitt on Jul 25, 2021 6:12:18 GMT -5
I mean, I don't care for the dude so if he went back to WWE 1. it wouldn't surprise me in the least and 2. I already don't watch regularly anyway so it would all be gravy for me.
But if he does go to AEW after all, then yeah I'll check it out because as said before I'm all about a crowd reaction, and it would be epic (mostly if it was done at All Out in Chicago and that's right up his alley/ego/and it's the smart way to debut him honestly).
But after that, eh.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jul 25, 2021 6:18:21 GMT -5
He most definitely has said on multiple occasions it would take a boatload of money or a “stupid amount” of money. At least one I can remember is on Renee’s podcast. Not to say he didn’t mention the wanting the right storyline as well, but he’s definitely made those comments about money that the OP is referring to.
All signs point to him heading to AEW, though.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 25, 2021 7:12:11 GMT -5
Punk coming back to this company would finish me off for good. What good is gonna come from it? The booking is still terrible, the characters are not there, Vince has lost his damn mind and wants to constantly rewrite history and act like things we have invested in no longer matter. CM Punk (and Daniel Bryan) showing up in AEW is the best possible chance we have of making wrestling have a mainstream boom again. If Punk throws that away for a paycheck to go back to a company that he admits himself that he was f***ing miserable in, then I'll lose all respect for him. It doesn’t matter who they sign, no company’s gonna see the kinds of numbers they saw in Attitude or Rock ‘n Wrestling unless cable has some kind of magical resurgence over this new streaming era. I think wrestling in 2021, with all the new options for streaming, is lucky to grab the audience share it has now. This might sound crazy, but we’re reaching a point where 2.5 million or higher may be “new boom numbers”.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Jul 25, 2021 7:43:04 GMT -5
CM Punk is coming back to TNA and he is ready to face Samoa Joe at Sacrifice
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jul 25, 2021 7:49:51 GMT -5
Punk coming back to this company would finish me off for good. What good is gonna come from it? The booking is still terrible, the characters are not there, Vince has lost his damn mind and wants to constantly rewrite history and act like things we have invested in no longer matter. CM Punk (and Daniel Bryan) showing up in AEW is the best possible chance we have of making wrestling have a mainstream boom again. If Punk throws that away for a paycheck to go back to a company that he admits himself that he was f***ing miserable in, then I'll lose all respect for him. It doesn’t matter who they sign, no company’s gonna see the kinds of numbers they saw in Attitude or Rock ‘n Wrestling unless cable has some kind of magical resurgence over this new streaming era. I think wrestling in 2021, with all the new options for streaming, is lucky to grab the audience share it has now. This might sound crazy, but we’re reaching a point where 2.5 million or higher may be “new boom numbers”. When a wrestler hosts Saturday Night Live, we’re in a boom period.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Jul 25, 2021 8:11:15 GMT -5
It doesn’t matter who they sign, no company’s gonna see the kinds of numbers they saw in Attitude or Rock ‘n Wrestling unless cable has some kind of magical resurgence over this new streaming era. I think wrestling in 2021, with all the new options for streaming, is lucky to grab the audience share it has now. This might sound crazy, but we’re reaching a point where 2.5 million or higher may be “new boom numbers”. When a wrestler hosts Saturday Night Live, we’re in a boom period. You know what, that's a good metric. Hogan in the 80s, Rock in the 90s.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 25, 2021 8:17:10 GMT -5
Psst, you're supposed to give the other quote. You know, the one that squares up with the views the OP didn't cite himself. I haven't personally seen him say it, but I could buy Punk maybe at some point gave a boiler plate, "I'd listen" to the concept of being offered something serious, but it was likely something as non-committal as that, since yeah, like Ric's quote shows, his priorities aren't really monetary. For as embarrassing as the UFC crab-walk run was, he was probably well compensated, and he's done stuff outside of that in his time post-WWE wrestling whenever he gets the itch. It'd take more than a lot of zeroes to get his attention, though I'm sure his ego doesn't mind seeing the numbers. If all Punk wanted was a paycheck, even if he was adamant no amount of money was worth dealing with WWE again, Tony Khan could have written him a fat cheque to be at All Out two years ago. I think he's been dancing around going to AEW all this time because he's been waiting to see how they actually do, so that he knew what he was stepping in to would be creatively worth his time. They approached him at the outset and he turned them down. Now it seems like maybe that was until he knew if they were going to be able to live up to what he wanted, and now that they've proven at least some degree of capable of that, he's ready to commit.
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Post by mrtuesday on Jul 25, 2021 8:38:32 GMT -5
When a wrestler hosts Saturday Night Live, we’re in a boom period. You know what, that's a good metric. Hogan in the 80s, Rock in the 90s. One of the musical guests this season was a former 24/7 Champion. Does that count?
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 25, 2021 8:38:46 GMT -5
When a wrestler hosts Saturday Night Live, we’re in a boom period. You know what, that's a good metric. Hogan in the 80s, Rock in the 90s. With Cena a few years back, it's hard to count it as *big* momentum for the WWE product since he was a part-timer pushing a film, but even that showed wrestling isn't truly "dead" to the public.
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Post by spagett on Jul 25, 2021 8:46:10 GMT -5
This sounds like some misery porn fantasy, and I'm not getting off on it. You don't want to see CM Punk go back to WWE and wrestle Jey or Jimmy Uso in some form for 6 weeks then get squashed by Roman at the PPV?
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