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Post by cj3 on Aug 21, 2021 5:24:47 GMT -5
Mine and the reason I start this thread
I feel all 30 people, no matter how under they were, in the 2003 Rumble could make a compelling main event storyline
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Post by Spider2024 on Aug 21, 2021 7:45:38 GMT -5
WWE Smackdown SYM was just as good as HCTP. Basically a 1:1 in terms of overall quality and game experience.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 8:08:36 GMT -5
CM Punk was over on Rampage last night.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 21, 2021 9:38:07 GMT -5
WWE Smackdown SYM was just as good as HCTP. Basically a 1:1 in terms of overall quality and game experience. And with Hogan, I feel like the roster is better in SYM |
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 21, 2021 9:51:43 GMT -5
CM Punk was over on Rampage last night. I don't know about that, one guy hated him so much he cried |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 14:02:16 GMT -5
Mine and the reason I start this thread I feel all 30 people, no matter how under they were, in the 2003 Rumble could make a compelling main event storyline 29 - B2 Nobody is buying that. It was first rumble post brand spilt and they were actually trying to give everyone something to do. Great roster at that time. |
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Post by fw91 on Aug 21, 2021 14:13:51 GMT -5
Mine and the reason I start this thread I feel all 30 people, no matter how under they were, in the 2003 Rumble could make a compelling main event storyline 29 - B2 Nobody is buying that. It was first rumble post brand spilt and they were actually trying to give everyone something to do. Great roster at that time. 28- Bill Demott. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 23:58:18 GMT -5
29 - B2 Nobody is buying that. It was first rumble post brand spilt and they were actually trying to give everyone something to do. Great roster at that time. 28- Bill Demott. That was the other name I was thinking. That guy had weird parts in his career where he was actually over. |
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Post by fw91 on Aug 22, 2021 0:01:13 GMT -5
That was the other name I was thinking. That guy had weird parts in his career where he was actually over. are you being humorous? |
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Aug 22, 2021 0:50:29 GMT -5
All women wrestlers are sexier as clowns.
I will conduct a damn survey.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Aug 22, 2021 11:50:01 GMT -5
Ric Flair did not have the same match every night. Watch the videos.
His matches with Ricky Steamboat were not the same as his matches with Blackjack Mulligan. His matches with Vader were not the same as his matches with Ricky Morton. His matches with Sting were not the same as his matches with Terry Funk. His matches with Hogan were not the same as his matches with Harley Race.
Doing some of the same moves or even spots is not the same match. Joe Frazier threw his vaunted left hook in every fight, but his bouts with Ali were all different than his bout with George Foreman.
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Post by jason1980s on Aug 22, 2021 11:56:22 GMT -5
29 - B2 Nobody is buying that. It was first rumble post brand spilt and they were actually trying to give everyone something to do. Great roster at that time. I'm always shocked that John Cena was able to become such a huge star considering he worked with Bull. Bull was like a career killer. Speaks to how talented Cena really is. I will never not believe Bull killed Bossman's career. I think Bossman was involved in pretty good storylines and still solidly over a heel until working with Bull. |
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Post by smokinvokoun86 on Aug 22, 2021 12:54:07 GMT -5
Ric Flair did not have the same match every night. Watch the videos. His matches with Ricky Steamboat were not the same as his matches with Blackjack Mulligan. His matches with Vader were not the same as his matches with Ricky Morton. His matches with Sting were not the same as his matches with Terry Funk. His matches with Hogan were not the same as his matches with Harley Race. Doing some of the same moves or even spots is not the same match. Joe Frazier threw his vaunted left hook in every fight, but his bouts with Ali were all different than his bout with George Foreman. I think Bret got that criticism too. I usually hate that criticism for any wrestler. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 14:30:34 GMT -5
Johnny Ace v John Cena was legit a bigger draw than CM Punk v Daniel Bryan in 2012 and deserved to main event that Over the Limit PPV if the "biggest" match is supposed to be the main event.
WO newsletter rating breakdowns during those feuds:
April 30 Raw - "Daniel Bryan vs. Jerry Lawler followed by a Bryan/CM Punk confrontation lost 198,000 viewers. John Cena being attacked by Laurinaitis, Lord Tensai and Sakamoto gained 578,000 viewers to a 3.49 overrun."
May 7 Raw - "And the most noteworthy of all is that C.M. Punk vs. Lord Tensai & Daniel Bryan in the overrun lost 105,000 viewers and did a 2.94 rating. It’s virtually impossible for the overrun to lose viewers since you’ve got the people coming on board for the next show, but this one did. Punk and Bryan aren’t ratings draws, but it’s clear that whatever appeal they have was overridden by the negative appeal of Tensai."
May 14 Raw - "CM Punk and Santino Marella vs. Cody Rhodes and Daniel Bryan lost 601,000 viewers. John Laurinaitis firing Show gained 1,033,000 viewers for a 3.37 quarter rating. This was one of the best 10pm gains of the year for RAW. The closing segment with Cena and Laurinaitis gained 990,000 viewers for a 3.43 overrun rating. This was among the best overrun gains of the year. In the Show-Laurinaitis segment that gained so well, Male Teens went from a 2.0 to 2.6 rating, Female Teens went from a 0.8 to a 1.0, Males 18-49 went from 2.2 to 2.9 and Women 18-49 went from a 1.0 to 1.3 rating. In the Cena-Laurinaitis segment, Male Teens went from 1.3 to 2.1, Female Teens went from 0.7 to 0.9, Males 18-49 went from 2.5 to 3.3 and Women 18-49 went from a 1.1 to 1.3 rating."
May 21 Raw - "In the segment breakdown, the John Cena and John Laurinaitis opener did well with a 3.40 quarter rating. Kane vs. Daniel Bryan gained 390,000 viewers for a 3.01 quarter rating. This isn't a great number for that timeslot but a good showing for a segment with CM Punk and Bryan. John Cena and Sheamus vs. Tensai, Jack Swagger and Dolph Ziggler in the Lumberjack Match gained 878,000 viewers for a 3.49 quarter rating.
May 28 Raw - "Punk vs. Daniel Bryan lost 30,000 viewers to a 2.79 quarter in the 10 p.m. segment which is terrible for that point in the show. The Punk-Bryan post-match lost 13,000 viewers.
June 4 Raw - "As far as demos went, the show did 2.5 in Boys 12-17 (up 14%), 2.4 in Males 18-49 (same as last week), 0.9 in Girls 12-17 (up 50%) and 1.2 in Girls 18-49 (up 20%). That’s the difference between Cena and non-Cena, is Cena draws girls at a level nobody else on Raw does. C.M. Punk vs. Kane in the 10 p.m. hour gained 340,000. The first part of the match did a 2.93 quarter and the finish got up to a 3.02. It’s a little less than an average gain for that slot but better than Punk has been doing of late. John Cena vs. Tensai gained 514,000 viewers, which is super strong for the 10:45 p.m. quarter. And Cena vs. Cole gained 299,000 viewers, which is weak for the overrun, but perhaps misleading in the sense the people who usually come in for the overrun came back early I guess due to Cena being in a match. By demo, this was the Cena gain at the end. Teenage boys went from 2.2 to 2.7. 18-49 men from 2.0 to 2.5. Teenage girls went from 0.8 to 1.3 and 18-49 women from 1.0 to 1.3."
June 11 Raw - "The big difference between this and a usual three-hour show is that all the hype about Vince McMahon in the first segment saw the show open at a 2.88 rating, well above the usual start of a three-hour show. Not only that, but those people who tuned in early instead of staying, they tuned out after as Sheamus vs. Tensai lost 415,000 viewers. Vince backstage with Laurinaitis gained 146,000 viewers. Bryan doing an interview with C.M. Punk, Kane and A.J. involved gained 978,000 viewers, but that was the audience that mostly forgot about the 8 p.m. start and tuned in. A.J. & Punk vs. Bryan & Kane lost 19,000 viewers. The show’s final segment with Vince, Laurinaitis, John Cena and Show gained 721,000 viewers."
June 18 Raw - "Raw had its second straight strong rating on 6/18, doing a 3.40 rating and 4.97 million viewers, the best rating the show has done since the day after WrestleMania. The show opened strong so there was interest coming off the PPV regarding the firing stipulation. But it also had a big peak for the HHH/Paul Heyman segment, and the final segment with the “final appearance” of John Laurinaitis. Sheamus & C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan & Kane lost 241,000 viewers. John Cena vs. David Otunga & John Laurinaitis in the overrun segment gained 573,000 viewers to a 3.74 quarter. As far as main event growth, for Teenage boys it was up from 3.3 to 3.5, Men 18-49 from 2.9 to 3.5, Teenage girls from 1.2 to 1.7 and 18-49 women from 1.3 to 1.5."
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Aug 22, 2021 14:49:42 GMT -5
That was the other name I was thinking. That guy had weird parts in his career where he was actually over. are you being humorous? I wonder if some agent had to approach him about the name “Hugh G. Rection” or if he came up with it on his own. In any case I do remember it being pretty impressive a guy his size was regularly deploying a moonsault at a time when even a tope was an “ohhhhhhhhh!” moment. |
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Post by chazraps on Aug 22, 2021 16:10:29 GMT -5
WWE Smackdown SYM was just as good as HCTP. Basically a 1:1 in terms of overall quality and game experience. I adore both, but one notable advantage HCTP has over SYM is your created wrestlers don't have a low ceiling like they do in SYM. They can mix it up with the in-game wrestlers much better. If you don't touch the CAWs at all though (and both do have excellent *creation* systems) they're a 1:1 for sure. |
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Post by fortknox on Aug 22, 2021 16:12:35 GMT -5
Rellik is Killer spelled backwards.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Aug 22, 2021 16:13:25 GMT -5
Sean Waltman's dick doesn't enhance the flavor of Koolaid in any way
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Aug 22, 2021 18:51:56 GMT -5
Up until March 17, 1997, Bret Hart was still massively cheered. The crowd pop when he came out against Sid in the steel cage match was deafening. Even after all the sabotaging of his character, especially by commentary. All of his complaints were legit. The fans WERE behind him. Even after the "This is BULLSHIT" promo, he still got a VERY good pop when he beat Austin at Wrestlemania 13. Bret Hart fans were very loyal to a fault. The Rumble pop is another good one, even with WWE making it look like Bret was a quitter, leading up to it. The kept on trying and trying to sabotage his crowd pops, but it wasn't working.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Aug 22, 2021 19:42:56 GMT -5
Sean Waltman's dick doesn't enhance the flavor of Koolaid in any way But does it detract? Suckas gots to know. |
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