thehottag
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Post by thehottag on Sept 24, 2021 3:44:45 GMT -5
What if Paul Gascoigne's toe was an inch longer (England football fans know)
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Post by Dan Royal on Sept 24, 2021 5:28:15 GMT -5
Before Gretzky was traded to the L.A Kings, the Oilers offered to cancel the whole thing and keep him. By then the bridge had already been burned and Gretzky wanted to go through with the trade.
If he stayed with the Oilers, they most likely would have won multiple cups. However, expansion in the areas like Anaheim, San Jose, and other southern areas would have never happened and the league would still mostly be in Canada/North-East states.
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Post by Spider2024 on Sept 24, 2021 7:48:48 GMT -5
What if the Miami Dolphins don’t pass on Drew Brees? Or how about this one: San Diego Chargers decide to stick with Brees and, instead of using their #1 pick in 2004 on a quarterback, they draft WR Larry Fitzgerald. Can you imagine an offense with Drew Brees, LaDainian Tomlinson, Larry Fitzgerald & Antonio Gates paired up with a darn good defense? Even the Chargers organization could bring at least one Super Bowl title home with that.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Sept 24, 2021 9:19:08 GMT -5
What if the Cardinals just walk Big Papi everytime instead of throwing to him...... Yeah, I'm still sore about that series.
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Sept 24, 2021 11:34:45 GMT -5
What if the Miami Dolphins don’t pass on Drew Brees? Or how about this one: San Diego Chargers decide to stick with Brees and, instead of using their #1 pick in 2004 on a quarterback, they draft WR Larry Fitzgerald. Can you imagine an offense with Drew Brees, LaDainian Tomlinson, Larry Fitzgerald & Antonio Gates paired up with a darn good defense? Even the Chargers organization could bring at least one Super Bowl title home with that. That also opens up a can of worms with Rivers/Eli. Do Oakland or Arizona take a QB instead? Maybe one of them draft Eli & refuse to play ball & trade him to the Giants, then New York have to go with Rivers or maybe they pick Big Ben instead.
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Post by Spider2024 on Sept 24, 2021 12:17:16 GMT -5
Or how about this one: San Diego Chargers decide to stick with Brees and, instead of using their #1 pick in 2004 on a quarterback, they draft WR Larry Fitzgerald. Can you imagine an offense with Drew Brees, LaDainian Tomlinson, Larry Fitzgerald & Antonio Gates paired up with a darn good defense? Even the Chargers organization could bring at least one Super Bowl title home with that. That also opens up a can of worms with Rivers/Eli. Do Oakland or Arizona take a QB instead? Maybe one of them draft Eli & refuse to play ball & trade him to the Giants, then New York have to go with Rivers or maybe they pick Big Ben instead. Oakland still takes OL Robert Gallery, Arizona would have to take one of the 3 QBs of the future. And I actually don't think Eli would demand a trade from Arizona (I thought Chargers was the only team he definitely didn't want to play for) which likely means Philip Rivers becomes a Giant.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 25, 2021 5:26:57 GMT -5
Before Gretzky was traded to the L.A Kings, the Oilers offered to cancel the whole thing and keep him. By then the bridge had already been burned and Gretzky wanted to go through with the trade. Close enough. Wayne Gretzky once said “If I could skate like Ty (his son), I would have really been something”. What would the record book look like then? What if the Vancouver Canucks don’t insanely insist Gretz signs his contract at like 2am, rather than at a decent hour like Gretzky wanted to do? How do the Canucks look with Gretzky in the lineup?
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Post by HeyYo on Sept 25, 2021 18:34:41 GMT -5
What if the laces were out?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 26, 2021 9:36:03 GMT -5
What if the laces were out? Ray Finkle kicks the field goal to win the Super Bowl, and doesn’t go insane and end up in a mental asylum and eventually undergo a gender transition as part of a psychotic revenge gambit against Dan Marino.
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Post by HeyYo on Oct 1, 2021 1:42:29 GMT -5
Wayne Gretzky: GP: 1487 G: 894 A: 1963 P: 2857
Jaromir Jagr: GP: 1733 G: 766 A: 1155 P: 1921
Gretzky always played on either a championship team or a deep team loaded with talent.
Jagr played on horrible teams in Pittsburgh (exluding the cup teams) and Washington. The other teams he played on were about middle of the pack and never made deep runs. He missed an extra 1.5 seasons from the lockouts. He played three seaons in the KHL by his own choice in 08-11 when he still would have been a very effective NHLer. He missed a ton of games due to injury.
Could Jagr have been the goat? If Jagr played with teams the caliber that Gretzky did his whole career, didn't miss time to the lockouts and KHL, and stayed healthy, could he have beat Wayne's records? I think he could have with the goals at least as he was only 128 behind.
Also the talent of defence, goaltending, and defensive systems were better after Gretzky retired in 99 and it became so defensive that they had to change the rules after the 05 lockout.
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Post by Vampiro138 on Oct 1, 2021 2:28:58 GMT -5
what if Kerry Wood and Mark Prior's arms didnt fall off??
what if Sammy Sosa could hit October pitching?
what if Ken Griffey Jr didnt have all the injuries?
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 1, 2021 3:01:58 GMT -5
Wayne Gretzky: GP: 1487 G: 894 A: 1963 P: 2857 Jaromir Jagr: GP: 1733 G: 766 A: 1155 P: 1921 Gretzky always played on either a championship team or a deep team loaded with talent. Jagr played on horrible teams in Pittsburgh (exluding the cup teams) and Washington. The other teams he played on were about middle of the pack and never made deep runs. He missed an extra 1.5 seasons from the lockouts. He played three seaons in the KHL by his own choice in 08-11 when he still would have been a very effective NHLer. He missed a ton of games due to injury. Could Jagr have been the goat? If Jagr played with teams the caliber that Gretzky did his whole career, didn't miss time to the lockouts and KHL, and stayed healthy, could he have beat Wayne's records? I think he could have with the goals at least as he was only 128 behind. Also the talent of defence, goaltending, and defensive systems were better after Gretzky retired in 99 and it became so defensive that they had to change the rules after the 05 lockout. Maybe. Firstly, Gretzky never always played on championship teams, outside the Oilers and one season with the Kings. Also still, Gretz has more assists than Jagr points. Even if Gretz never, ever scored, he's still #1. Though Jagr may have passed him in goals and it's likely Ovie will. But I don't want him to.
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Oct 1, 2021 3:23:17 GMT -5
what if Ken Griffey Jr didnt have all the injuries? He'd be the HR Champ and would have easily cemented himself as a top 5 player in baseball history. Probably no post season hardware still as he'd still be on the same Cinci teams
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Post by Heart of fools gold on Oct 1, 2021 3:26:43 GMT -5
Wayne Gretzky: GP: 1487 G: 894 A: 1963 P: 2857 Jaromir Jagr: GP: 1733 G: 766 A: 1155 P: 1921 Gretzky always played on either a championship team or a deep team loaded with talent. Jagr played on horrible teams in Pittsburgh (exluding the cup teams) and Washington. The other teams he played on were about middle of the pack and never made deep runs. He missed an extra 1.5 seasons from the lockouts. He played three seaons in the KHL by his own choice in 08-11 when he still would have been a very effective NHLer. He missed a ton of games due to injury. Could Jagr have been the goat? If Jagr played with teams the caliber that Gretzky did his whole career, didn't miss time to the lockouts and KHL, and stayed healthy, could he have beat Wayne's records? I think he could have with the goals at least as he was only 128 behind. Also the talent of defence, goaltending, and defensive systems were better after Gretzky retired in 99 and it became so defensive that they had to change the rules after the 05 lockout. Maybe. Firstly, Gretzky never always played on championship teams, outside the Oilers and one season with the Kings. Also still, Gretz has more assists than Jagr points. Even if Gretz never, ever scored, he's still #1. Though Jagr may have passed him in goals and it's likely Ovie will. But I don't want him to. Also just from a GP perspective think of what Gretzky's #s would look like if he played another 300 games like Jagr did
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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 1, 2021 3:47:41 GMT -5
My big what if’s are Chicago Bulls related. One of the big ones is if Michael Jordan didn’t retire the first time, would they have won 8 championships instead of “only” 6? Probably not because even if they were better than the Rockets, it’s extremely unlikely for anyone to win that many, unless you’re the 60s Celtics. And Houston was always a tough team for anyone let alone the Bulls. But it’s fun to wonder. And of course, the big one is if Jerry Krause wasn’t super insecure and not break up the Dynasty if they could have won at least one more time. I personally think they could have beaten that Spurs team and they’d finally lose to the burgeoning Shaq and Kobe Laker teams. Then again, those Lakers wouldn’t have had Phil Jackson. So who knows. I love that Scenario simply because of how full circle it would have been. The Bulls of the nineties won their first NBA title by beating magic and the lakers, so it would have been fitting for the new generation of lakers to end the bulls dynasty.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 1, 2021 3:56:46 GMT -5
Maybe. Firstly, Gretzky never always played on championship teams, outside the Oilers and one season with the Kings. Also still, Gretz has more assists than Jagr points. Even if Gretz never, ever scored, he's still #1. Though Jagr may have passed him in goals and it's likely Ovie will. But I don't want him to. Also just from a GP perspective think of what Gretzky's #s would look like if he played another 300 games like Jagr did Think of what Gretz's numbers would look like if he was a half decent skater.
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Post by HeyYo on Oct 1, 2021 4:53:43 GMT -5
Also just from a GP perspective think of what Gretzky's #s would look like if he played another 300 games like Jagr did Think of what Gretz's numbers would look like if he was a half decent skater. I don't dispute anything that's been said. When Gretzky didn't play on the championship caliber teams though, he did have Hull, MacInnis, Pronger, Hawerchuk, etc. to play with in St Louis, and guys like Messier, Robitaille, LaFontaine, Kovalev, Graves, Leetch, etc. to play with in New York so he was still surrounded by Hall of Famers. Jagr had nobody on those crappy teams to help him out. And true Gretzky wasn't a good skater, but nobody touched him either because of Semenko and McSorley. Jagr didn't have that kind of protection and guys played him harder.
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Post by The_Don_Mecha on Oct 3, 2021 16:52:08 GMT -5
My big what if’s are Chicago Bulls related. One of the big ones is if Michael Jordan didn’t retire the first time, would they have won 8 championships instead of “only” 6? Probably not because even if they were better than the Rockets, it’s extremely unlikely for anyone to win that many, unless you’re the 60s Celtics. And Houston was always a tough team for anyone let alone the Bulls. But it’s fun to wonder. And of course, the big one is if Jerry Krause wasn’t super insecure and not break up the Dynasty if they could have won at least one more time. I personally think they could have beaten that Spurs team and they’d finally lose to the burgeoning Shaq and Kobe Laker teams. Then again, those Lakers wouldn’t have had Phil Jackson. So who knows. I love that Scenario simply because of how full circle it would have been. The Bulls of the nineties won their first NBA title by beating magic and the lakers, so it would have been fitting for the new generation of lakers to end the bulls dynasty. Phil Jackson is the big issue in this, as MJ stated that he doesn't play without Phil (said in 1998; he did in 2001 post-second retirement) and Krause was hell-bent on not having Phil come back under any circumstances. So that does complicate the issue big time. I think this scenario plays out in a similar fashion. Here's a football what-if: what if they call a penalty in the 2019 NFC Championship game and the Saints run the time down further as a result? What does that Super Bowl look like instead of the low-scoring bore fest that happened? Would it be a shootout between Brady and Brees in the Super Bowl?
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Oct 4, 2021 11:23:14 GMT -5
What if the Miami Dolphins don’t pass on Drew Brees? Or how about this one: San Diego Chargers decide to stick with Brees and, instead of using their #1 pick in 2004 on a quarterback, they draft WR Larry Fitzgerald. Can you imagine an offense with Drew Brees, LaDainian Tomlinson, Larry Fitzgerald & Antonio Gates paired up with a darn good defense? Even the Chargers organization could bring at least one Super Bowl title home with that. The Chargers had a GREAT draft that year too. If they had got Fitz it would have been an all time draft for them
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Post by Sam Punk on Oct 4, 2021 11:41:14 GMT -5
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