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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 12, 2022 17:27:20 GMT -5
Take away the allegations. This dude is a total goof, right? Standing there trying to be a badass holding up an umbrella like he’s the f***ing Penguin. A lot of his schtick was pretty blatantly inspired by the penguin, And A LOT of Marty's appeal was that he was a total goof anyway. He got more over from being comic relief on BTE than anything else he did.
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Post by Burst on Jul 12, 2022 17:48:40 GMT -5
I'd also argue he had an aura about him while still with Bullet Club that started going away when he stuck with ROH after AEW was formed and went away completely when everything about him being a creep came out.
Even when he was floundering in ROH it felt like he was already kind of in "hey remember when I was with these guys that are more famous now?" mode.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jul 12, 2022 17:54:08 GMT -5
Judging by the wrestlers who still like his posts on Instagram I don't think he's some kind of black sheep among the boys (or girls). He still seems pretty well liked but I don't think WWE or AEW consider him some kind of game changing draw to make the pushback they'd get for signing him worthwhile. They both dodged a bullet there because I think AEW and NXT would have happily signed him in 2019 before he took the big creative control ROH deal.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 12, 2022 19:10:12 GMT -5
Judging by the wrestlers who still like his posts on Instagram I don't think he's some kind of black sheep among the boys (or girls). He still seems pretty well liked but I don't think WWE or AEW consider him some kind of game changing draw to make the pushback they'd get for signing him worthwhile. They both dodged a bullet there because I think AEW and NXT would have happily signed him in 2019 before he took the big creative control ROH deal. Sometimes I wonder about all the money Marty pissed away by getting canceled when the "Forbidden Door" opened up and when RoH got sold to Tony Khan. With his history with The Elite, he would have easily been in a position to be the focus of a boatload of promotions all at once.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 12, 2022 19:28:33 GMT -5
Judging by the wrestlers who still like his posts on Instagram I don't think he's some kind of black sheep among the boys (or girls). He still seems pretty well liked but I don't think WWE or AEW consider him some kind of game changing draw to make the pushback they'd get for signing him worthwhile. They both dodged a bullet there because I think AEW and NXT would have happily signed him in 2019 before he took the big creative control ROH deal. Sometimes I wonder about all the money Marty pissed away by getting canceled when the "Forbidden Door" opened up and when RoH got sold to Tony Khan. With his history with The Elite, he would have easily been in a position to be the focus of a boatload of promotions all at once. People were basically assuming it was only a matter of time before Marty joined AEW... then the RoH booker job fell in his lap and assumed he must have been paid massively.... which was fine... you know until he was a Metooed.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 12, 2022 19:40:29 GMT -5
A lot of his schtick was pretty blatantly inspired by the penguin, And A LOT of Marty's appeal was that he was a total goof anyway. He got more over from being comic relief on BTE than anything else he did. Not even that, his finishing move was the chicken wing,he has a finger snap spot and a dick kick fake out. Dude was never overly serious.
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Post by Rave on Jul 12, 2022 20:00:18 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder about all the money Marty pissed away by getting canceled when the "Forbidden Door" opened up and when RoH got sold to Tony Khan. With his history with The Elite, he would have easily been in a position to be the focus of a boatload of promotions all at once. People were basically assuming it was only a matter of time before Marty joined AEW... then the RoH booker job fell in his lap and assumed he must have been paid massively.... which was fine... you know until it was outed he was a Metooed. Was a seven figure contract, IIRC. ROH really ponied up for him. Too bad he had to be such a dingus.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 12, 2022 20:12:42 GMT -5
You can put me among those who felt Scurll had something going before he blew it. His Okada match in Chicago I felt was the start of big things. But there's more important stuff outside the ring, so boy bye.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 12, 2022 20:53:23 GMT -5
Wait, you mean people won't be excited when I book a disgraced creep who f***ed a teenager and give him a landing platform on his continued attempt to re-enter the business and peoples' good graces?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jul 12, 2022 21:28:02 GMT -5
Judging by the wrestlers who still like his posts on Instagram I don't think he's some kind of black sheep among the boys (or girls). He still seems pretty well liked but I don't think WWE or AEW consider him some kind of game changing draw to make the pushback they'd get for signing him worthwhile. They both dodged a bullet there because I think AEW and NXT would have happily signed him in 2019 before he took the big creative control ROH deal. I'm honestly surprised that he's not part of Cardona's gang on the indies.
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Post by y4j1981 on Jul 14, 2022 14:03:23 GMT -5
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Post by y4j1981 on Jul 14, 2022 14:12:47 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder about all the money Marty pissed away by getting canceled when the "Forbidden Door" opened up and when RoH got sold to Tony Khan. With his history with The Elite, he would have easily been in a position to be the focus of a boatload of promotions all at once. People were basically assuming it was only a matter of time before Marty joined AEW... then the RoH booker job fell in his lap and assumed he must have been paid massively.... which was fine... you know until he was a Metooed. I really thought he was coming to AEW & when the RoH offer happened it was part of The Elite's plan. Marty gets the book and Tony Khan/Elite uses RoH as a "sister fed" or a "rival fed" to AEW. That's why Marty was doing the "my friends are dead" gimmick thing, to leads to a future AEW/RoH event I mean I know Marty was doing the "my friends are dead" thing before he got the head booking but obviously there head to be talks leading up to it so I assumed he knew and Marty/RoH/AEW were planting the seeds
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Post by eJm on Jul 14, 2022 16:12:24 GMT -5
“Everybody deserves a second chance”
Sure. That’s why Jimmy Havoc delivers packages now and isn’t near the wrestling business or in a front facing role.
If that was Marty’s approach, we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
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Post by Fade on Jul 14, 2022 17:52:57 GMT -5
People were basically assuming it was only a matter of time before Marty joined AEW... then the RoH booker job fell in his lap and assumed he must have been paid massively.... which was fine... you know until he was a Metooed. I really thought he was coming to AEW & when the RoH offer happened it was part of The Elite's plan. Marty gets the book and Tony Khan/Elite uses RoH as a "sister fed" or a "rival fed" to AEW. That's why Marty was doing the "my friends are dead" gimmick thing, to leads to a future AEW/RoH event I mean I know Marty was doing the "my friends are dead" thing before he got the head booking but obviously there head to be talks leading up to it so I assumed he knew and Marty/RoH/AEW were planting the seeds I had the same thought when he went with the ROH deal. That they all figured a merger was inevitable and his booking position would only help matters. And best believe if Marty had gone to AEW before everything came out he would have been pushed in a high mid-to-upper card. As previously mentioned, it’s insane how much he pissed away.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 14, 2022 20:19:54 GMT -5
“Everybody deserves a second chance” Sure. That’s why Jimmy Havoc delivers packages now and isn’t near the wrestling business or in a front facing role. If that was Marty’s approach, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Granted, I think a lot of that was Havoc's suicide ideation, him leaving wrestling because it was going to kill him. Still a shitbag for what he did, but it sounds like he was going to be a statistic at that rate.
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Post by hentery on Jul 15, 2022 5:34:56 GMT -5
“Everybody deserves a second chance” Sure. That’s why Jimmy Havoc delivers packages now and isn’t near the wrestling business or in a front facing role. If that was Marty’s approach, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Correct, they do. However when you’re known for showing your umm little friend to a minor and then having dex with her… maybe your second chance should not be in family entertainment. Or near a high school. Or elementary school. Or around anyone under 18 in general.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 20, 2022 19:47:07 GMT -5
Can you spot the nonce?
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Post by Dragonfly on Aug 21, 2022 2:31:48 GMT -5
Can you spot the nonce? Yeah. I see Enzo.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 21, 2022 6:38:54 GMT -5
Can you spot the nonce? There are a lot of AEW Talent on this that could be pulled if enough of a stink is made about it, just like how Joey Ryan tried to sneak on a card
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 21, 2022 6:54:25 GMT -5
Can you spot the nonce? There are a lot of AEW Talent on this that could be pulled if enough of a stink is made about it, just like how Joey Ryan tried to sneak on a card The event was yesterday so I’m not sure if they pulled anyone right before/as it was taking place. However this image was still being used to promote the event on Facebook as it was taking place so I’m thinking not.
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