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Post by CubsFan71 on Oct 6, 2021 4:01:47 GMT -5
I mean yeah Vince probably fed him the line. But man did it ever seem personal
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 6, 2021 6:25:33 GMT -5
Hey...if Vince doesn't want her, pretty sure Excalibur and Tony Schiavone would have no issues talking her up.
Just a reminder that Vince might want to start treading a little more carefully when feeding commentary to his puppets.
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Post by Clutchhausen on Oct 6, 2021 10:48:56 GMT -5
He's not wrong.
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Post by Instant Classic on Oct 6, 2021 11:06:32 GMT -5
She does suck, but shouldn’t of been said by a commentator.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 6, 2021 11:16:24 GMT -5
For all the stupid shit he said, I will give him the benefit and say he was "forced" to say this by Vince
No, he doesn't have a choice in saying it. It is either say it or get your ass chewed out and risk your job. If he truly didn't mean it, he can apologize to Dana as this is a job for both of them but until otherwise he gets the slight benefit of doubt
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Post by Ozman on Oct 6, 2021 11:29:47 GMT -5
Corey Graves is trash!!! All he does is lose his shit and scream at the top of his lungs, especially when working with Byron Saxton.
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Oct 6, 2021 11:53:39 GMT -5
He’s a heel commentator….I see no issues with it Also, he wasn’t lying.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Oct 6, 2021 12:03:13 GMT -5
He’s a heel commentator….I see no issues with it Also, he wasn’t lying. the job of the heel commentator is not to bury one of the talents though
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 6, 2021 12:44:46 GMT -5
She does suck, but shouldn’t of been said by a commentator. Yeah, that’s about the long and the short of it. She’s the drizzling shits and probably has been given way too much time, but a heel commentator is supposed to be a douche but still build up the talent. He just completely buried the talent.
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Post by BJ Sturgeon on Oct 6, 2021 12:54:59 GMT -5
1. I know it's easy for me to say as my job isn't on the line, but if he was fed that line, maybe at some point you need to put your foot down and refuse to shit on your colleagues on public television.
2. Even as a heel commentator you don't completely bury talent. You try to find character flaws, or opinions you don't agree with, but you always put over the talent. If you make a talent out to be completely useless, who does it do anything for? The opponent? They either beat a nobody, or even worse they loose to someone who is made out to have no business in the ring.
3. Wasn't it reported quite a while ago that Dana is a complete sweetheart and tries everything to show that she wants to improve and has a place in the company, even helping setting up the ring, etc.?
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Post by Aceorton on Oct 6, 2021 14:27:59 GMT -5
If you're a restaurant and one of your sandwiches isn't a hit, you just quietly stop offering that sandwich, or you take it off the menu for a while for revamping. You don't tell all your customers the sandwich sucks and that it probably would be for the best if you just got rid of it.
This stupid company.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Oct 6, 2021 14:51:22 GMT -5
Remember when Graves and Booker had some stupid worked shoot feud about nothing for no reason?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 6, 2021 14:55:40 GMT -5
The only good things I can say about Corey is he had a good entrance music and a decent finisher.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 15:00:17 GMT -5
Also, it wasn't breaking kayfabe but it got close. "Achieving anything". Just say she doesn't win often, For f***s sakes. I hope the company who often has kayfabe "evil bosses" that willy-nilly "fire" people or force them to compete in matches against their will can "cut their losses".
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Oct 6, 2021 16:53:50 GMT -5
He’s a heel commentator….I see no issues with it Also, he wasn’t lying. the job of the heel commentator is not to bury one of the talents though Was he not telling the truth? I’ve heard way worse. Plus the “good guys” stuck up for her. Also if you think Corey wasn’t told to say that…..you must not understanding wrestling. It’s prolly leading to a storyline for her and Carmella.
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Oct 6, 2021 16:54:45 GMT -5
If you're a restaurant and one of your sandwiches isn't a hit, you just quietly stop offering that sandwich, or you take it off the menu for a while for revamping. You don't tell all your customers the sandwich sucks and that it probably would be for the best if you just got rid of it. This stupid company. Unless u have a plan to reintroduce the sandwich and give it attention. This is 100% leading to something
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Oct 6, 2021 17:03:30 GMT -5
the job of the heel commentator is not to bury one of the talents though Was he not telling the truth? I’ve heard way worse. Plus the “good guys” stuck up for her. Also if you think Corey wasn’t told to say that…..you must not understanding wrestling. It’s prolly leading to a storyline for her and Carmella. I understand wrestling plenty, that's why I know you don't have a heel commentator (and it's totally irrelevant if he was told to say it or not), bury an active member of your roster. It's wrestling 101.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Oct 6, 2021 17:14:44 GMT -5
The thing is, Corey has said & done horrible things like this in the past. Many times in fact, to fellow WWE coworkers (both in kayfabe and in for real) and even to fans on social media. So whether he was fed that line or not, he won't get any benefit of the doubt or sympathy. (And he doesn't deserve any, IMO.) Yeah, he's an ass no doubt, I just don't see anything like that making it to air without Vince screaming it in their ear and then laughing until he spits up.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 6, 2021 17:18:40 GMT -5
Also, it's one thing to say this as a heel commentator and then Dana has a breakout performance. Then it tells a story. It just makes her look horrible when someone calls her out for being trash and then she loses in one minute, thus confirming Corey's comments to the audience.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 6, 2021 17:23:50 GMT -5
She does suck, but shouldn’t of been said by a commentator. That’s basically the issue with Graves to me. He may have some valid points, but it’s not his place to say it. Even the thing with Ranallo… “He’s being overbearing, let the other commentators talk”… He kind of IS at times, and we’d say that here all the time, but that’s for us to say, not him. On her merits, Brooke is probably behind… *scans through the RAW roster* …Lynch, Belair, Asuka, Bliss, Ripley, A.S.H., Nox, Morgan, Yim and Doudrop talent-wise, and probably equal with Carmella and Vega. It’s hard to make the argument that she should featured ahead of any of them, but at the same time, she’s only been given limited opportunities to prove it. It’s almost a case of, maybe they should give her a challenger of the month feud to see what she’s got.
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