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Post by sportatorium on Oct 5, 2021 16:12:24 GMT -5
Guessing as others have that Vince was in his ear.
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Post by Spider2024 on Oct 5, 2021 16:12:45 GMT -5
The thing is, Corey has said & done horrible things like this in the past. Many times in fact, to fellow WWE coworkers (both in kayfabe and in for real) and even to fans on social media. So whether he was fed that line or not, he won't get any benefit of the doubt or sympathy. (And he doesn't deserve any, IMO.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 16:20:41 GMT -5
The thing is, Corey has said & done horrible things like this in the past. Many times in fact, to fellow WWE coworkers (both in kayfabe and in for real) and even to fans on social media. So whether he was fed that line or not, he won't get any benefit of the doubt or sympathy. (And he doesn't deserve any, IMO.) Oh God, his Twitter rants were so f***ing bizarre. Remember when he was poor shaming people while also admitting to being on food stamps in the past?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2021 16:26:31 GMT -5
Full on dying at Dana doing the ridiculous looking arm wringers while Graves eats her soul.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 5, 2021 16:31:03 GMT -5
If Saxton could smack him one, he would've by now, but it's probably not a good thing to do with someone who had to retire from wrestling because of concussions. It would be nice of Saxton was given something he could say that would just instantaneously shut down whatever the f*** Corey's ranting and raving is about. Like...could they make Saxton be Corey's stepdad? Corey: "I'M DISGUSTED WITH YOU AND THIS NEW DAY POSITIVITY CRAP, SAXTON!" Saxton: "I'm dating your mother." Corey: "HOW CAN YOU CLAP FOR BIG E WITH, wait what?!" All the shit Saxton said to Nia on Ridealong, verbatim, about Corey's mum. It'd be amazing.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Oct 5, 2021 16:32:47 GMT -5
Corey has always come off like a big company stooge/ass kisser to me. I've always noticed that he only gives hard sells to company chosen ones that always get pushed (Roman, Charlotte, Alexa, Nia, Lashley) and never does crap to put over anyone else. In other words he just puts over people who are always going to get pushed and have been pushed for years just to be a kiss ass and get on the powers to be's good side while he does absolutely nothing for the people who could use it more like a Dana Brooke and if anything actually just buries them most of them where they come even worse then their booking portrays them. As a commentator a big part of your job is to put over the talent. Not a just a chosen few talent and bury everyone else. As mentioned guys like Ventura and Heenan were heels commentators but still put everyone over for the most part regardless of their alignment or their position on the card.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 5, 2021 16:34:26 GMT -5
The thing is, Corey has said & done horrible things like this in the past. Many times in fact, to fellow WWE coworkers (both in kayfabe and in for real) and even to fans on social media. So whether he was fed that line or not, he won't get any benefit of the doubt or sympathy. (And he doesn't deserve any, IMO.) Yeah, his words or not, he's still trash and he still said them with his mouth. If they're Vince orders, that doesn't absolve him of shit, it just adds another person who shouldn't have.
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Oct 5, 2021 16:43:10 GMT -5
That was just completely bizarre. It made no sense narratively and I honestly have a hard time believing Vince directly told him to say that, because Dana has NEVER been good in the ring. Yet they've kept her around and used her for stuff, so they must see something in her. If I had to take a guess, and hey, I could be wrong, I would say that Vince told him to run her down a bit on commentary, and Graves took that to mean "bury the shit out of her".
If it DOES lead to a storyline, then OK, it's another worked shoot, but it just came out of nowhere and would have best been left in the writers' room.
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Post by Chiral on Oct 5, 2021 16:57:03 GMT -5
The thing is, Corey has said & done horrible things like this in the past. Many times in fact, to fellow WWE coworkers (both in kayfabe and in for real) and even to fans on social media. So whether he was fed that line or not, he won't get any benefit of the doubt or sympathy. (And he doesn't deserve any, IMO.) Yeah, his words or not, he's still trash and he still said them with his mouth. If they're Vince orders, that doesn't absolve him of shit, it just adds another person who shouldn't have.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 5, 2021 17:00:00 GMT -5
Yeah, his words or not, he's still trash and he still said them with his mouth. If they're Vince orders, that doesn't absolve him of shit, it just adds another person who shouldn't have. A Kitkat wrapper thrown on the floor is still garbage whether someone blew their nose in it or not.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 5, 2021 17:04:07 GMT -5
Corey is like someone tried to make Jesse Ventura in a lab and really didn't get what people actually liked about Jesse.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Oct 5, 2021 17:35:33 GMT -5
Corey has always come off like a big company stooge/ass kisser to me. I've always noticed that he only gives hard sells to company chosen ones that always get pushed (Roman, Charlotte, Alexa, Nia, Lashley) and never does crap to put over anyone else. In other words he just puts over people who are always going to get pushed and have been pushed for years just to be a kiss ass and get on the powers to be's good side while he does absolutely nothing for the people who could use it more like a Dana Brooke and if anything actually just buries them most of them where they come even worse then their booking portrays them. As a commentator a big part of your job is to put over the talent. Not a just a chosen few talent and bury everyone else. As mentioned guys like Ventura and Heenan were heels commentators but still put everyone over for the most part regardless of their alignment or their position on the card. Of course he’s a company ass kisser, he was basically a nobody in pre-Network NXT who got his career ended and they bent over backwards to keep him around and give him a commentary job that’s probably made him way more money then he would have wrestling. If not for the commentary gig he’s probably got a normal Joe job for a lot less money and not crawling into bed with Carmella every night. WWE has been VERY good to him. Also, I know that he wasn’t a total nobody but in the grand scheme of the wrestling world he was. If they say they don’t have a different spot for him, where would that dude really be right now?
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Oct 5, 2021 23:43:22 GMT -5
For all this talk that Graves is a heel, is this getting any sympathy for Brooke or is this getting heat on any heels? No, it's just burying Dana and saying that she sucks and should be fired.
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Post by Demented on Oct 5, 2021 23:48:55 GMT -5
I read this thread title in a waaaaaaaaaay different context.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 5, 2021 23:52:16 GMT -5
If Saxton could smack him one, he would've by now, but it's probably not a good thing to do with someone who had to retire from wrestling because of concussions. It would be nice of Saxton was given something he could say that would just instantaneously shut down whatever the f*** Corey's ranting and raving is about. Like...could they make Saxton be Corey's stepdad? Corey: "I'M DISGUSTED WITH YOU AND THIS NEW DAY POSITIVITY CRAP, SAXTON!" Saxton: "I'm dating your mother." Corey: "HOW CAN YOU CLAP FOR BIG E WITH, wait what?!" Have Saxton do to Corey what JBL used to do to Saxton. Saxton : Hahaha, Graves! After the show, you and me, we're gonna drive on out to the desert, Graves! And you know what I'm gonna do then, Graves? I'M GOING TO SEPARATE YOUR HEAD FROM YOUR BODY AND SHIT DOWN YOUR NECK, GRAVES! THEY'LL NEVER FIND YOUR BONES, GRAVES!!!"
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Post by saneiac on Oct 6, 2021 0:05:56 GMT -5
I legitimately thought Dana was released in all the cuts earlier this year. I was surprised to see her on TV at all, and thought, "Wow, they must actually see something in her to have brought her back like this!"
Which, honestly, just made Corey's burial on commentary even weirder.
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Post by DSR on Oct 6, 2021 0:25:11 GMT -5
It would be nice of Saxton was given something he could say that would just instantaneously shut down whatever the f*** Corey's ranting and raving is about. Like...could they make Saxton be Corey's stepdad? Corey: "I'M DISGUSTED WITH YOU AND THIS NEW DAY POSITIVITY CRAP, SAXTON!" Saxton: "I'm dating your mother." Corey: "HOW CAN YOU CLAP FOR BIG E WITH, wait what?!" Have Saxton do to Corey what JBL used to do to Saxton. Saxton : Hahaha, Graves! After the show, you and me, we're gonna drive on out to the desert, Graves! And you know what I'm gonna do then, Graves? I'M GOING TO SEPARATE YOUR HEAD FROM YOUR BODY AND SHIT DOWN YOUR NECK, GRAVES! THEY'LL NEVER FIND YOUR BONES, GRAVES!!!" Man, could we all pitch in and get Byron a medal or something for putting up with these horrible coworkers for so long?
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Post by eJm on Oct 6, 2021 1:19:38 GMT -5
For all this talk that Graves is a heel, is this getting any sympathy for Brooke or is this getting heat on any heels? No, it's just burying Dana and saying that she sucks and should be fired. The other thing, too, is that it basically says in kayfabe that management are idiots to have her on TV if they think so low of her. And not in kayfabe, it just makes you think “Ok, cool, so why is she still in the company getting matches on a consistent basis if you think so low of her?”
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2021 1:26:19 GMT -5
he really should just be an actual heel manager
dude seems like a dickhead even if you do believe this line was fed
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Post by asuka007 on Oct 6, 2021 1:37:45 GMT -5
I have no doubt that someone in the back, be it Vince or whomever, was in his ear telling him to say that.
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